Vault101 said:
Perhaps I was reading too much into your buying games despite shitty DRM. If so I apologize.
Vault101 said:
I dont know if the customers actually made a difference to ubisofts policy....mabye they did but I dont know how often it happens
I'm sure it happens less than the people who boycott would like, but I do think that largely comes down to most people either not noticing or not caring when companies are acting like assholes, and not generating enough of a backlash against them, rather than companies simply not listening to customers. And I will bet money that Ubisoft changed the DRM in Assassin's Creed because a lot of people spoke out against it. If not, they'd still be using it (especially since they are still using it in some other games/series).
Vault101 said:
all I'm saying is there are plenty of people of will go "aaahh fuck it" and just get it because they are fans and will put up with it....its better than not having any game at all, go on just see how well Diablo 3 sells...it will sell Im pretty sure
Yeah, there are a lot of people who will simply put up with it, which I think is largely due to general consumer apathy or lack of information. I have no doubt Diablo 3 will sell well. But there are still a lot of people who will pass on it because they don't like companies trying to screw them over. I also disagree with the statement that giving in is better than not having any game at all. We're not talking about a situation where you're forced to choose between having a game and putting up with DRM or not buying any game at all. It's more a matter of buying a game with shitty DRM, or buying a different game that's also really good that doesn't have it. As much as I may want a game sometimes (such as MW2 when it came out), I'm not so beholden to any franchise or development team that I'll turn a blind eye and buy it if they're doing something I don't like. There's no shortage of other companies doing great things as well, many of whom could probably use my money more to be honest.
Vault101 said:
but if activision was putting out mass effect 3...damn right I would buy it..collectors edition too..if that means I lack self controll...then fine
When I said lack of self control, I was specifically referring to the sort of behaviour some people exhibit where they'll verbally chastise a company, and claim they're the worst of the worst for what they're doing on the one hand, but buy their stuff anyway. Those people are either low on self control, or don't really feel half as strongly as they say.
The way I see it, if you hate what a company is doing so much that you feel the need to tell everyone you meet in person and online why they're the scum of the earth then the least you can do is show the small amount of restraint required to put your money where your mouth is and buy something else or not buy anything at all.
So the question really boils down to which do you feel is more important. Taking a stand against a business practice you don't like or playing a game. I won't begrudge anyone for the going with the latter, but at least try not to be a complete hypocrite when you do it, and certainly don't talk about boycotting a company, except for the games you want.
Vault101 said:
also I dont think "I dont get popular game x because Im not interested" counts as boycotting..(as alot of people here seem to be saying)
I agree, it doesn't count as boycotting. Everyone "boycotts" the things they aren't interested in to begin with. Saying you boycott something is meaningless if you make exceptions for the things you would actually want if you didn't disagree with what the company in question is doing. If you're going to say you're boycotting something then you need to be consistent.
Like I won't say I'm boycotting all Ubisoft games. Simply the ones that use always on DRM. I didn't even touch Assassin's Creed 2 until they got rid of it, which wasn't easy when everyone and their mother was talking about how good it was, but I didn't play it on any platform until a year and a half after it came out and they had backpedaled on the DRM front. They're still using the always on DRM in some games, but not others, so I'll continue to support the games I want that don't have it, and avoid those that do.
