Hentai Collector Sentenced to Jail Over "Obscene" Material

[NeutralDrow]

I can sort of see the govs way on all this. That stuff is just a portal for people to start doing that stuff for real. I have seen it before.

the things you own, end up owning you- Tyler Durden

So playing GTA will make me a murderer? NOW I KNO!!! /sarcasm

You dont need to write "Sarcasm" out. Im pretty good at picking it out after only a few months on these forums. Oh and "Kno" has a "W" at the end.

Back on subject. He did mail order the stuff so he is guilty. End of argument, and yea they are going to seize it, technically its contraband and they take that stuff.

And technically, Scopes broke the law against teaching evolution in his biology class, so he lost his case.

Yes, he broke the law. That's not the issue. The issue is that the law is quite stupid and the punishment for breaking it doesn't even come close to matching the crime.

And I would like to point out how the media desensitizes people. GTA is considered so run of the mill that it makes murder look like no big deal, or at least belittle it to the point that saying its "just a game" is a legit argument.

That is a legit argument. There's no causal connection between violence and video games.

As for this dude, that's just pathetic. Anime porn? Go out and get a life. Who knows maybe getting canned will make him do just that when he get released. And why are you people crying about his life getting "ruined"? Its the law and he broke it. Cause > Effect.....

You forgot the bestiality. You know, while you're deriding other peoples' tastes.

And we're crying about his life getting "ruined" because of a little thing called "disproportionate retribution." You don't execute people for parking violations, why the hell would you sentence someone to half a year in jail, three years of non-subsidized psych evaluation, and five years of probation on a first-time "offender" for something genuinely harmless?

 

[DownOnTheUpside]

How much do you wanna bet there's gonna be at least one person who shuffles through their manga collection and/or destroys some of it after reading this thread?

Done.

And I agree with what was stated earlier. They should have given him a chance to destroy the material before the action they took.

 

[traineesword]

Well, that is disgusting.

But their not even pictures of real people. Just drawings.

If I drew a stick figure bent over another stick figure, would that count as pornography and would I have to go to court for it?

only if one of those stick figures was significantly smaller than the other

 

[elvor0]

Stupidly over the top, it's not harming anyone, I mean sure bestiality and pedophilia are sick but they're not real, we might as well start arresting people for murder in video games at this point. Heck I bet it wasn't even child porn, most likely it was Loli(which is as far as I am aware, grown women that LOOK young, tantamount to flat-chested females).

I mean I could understand that perhaps physcological evaluation could be in order to check that in the even it is actually children depicted that he's not going to go out and start fiddling with kids might be in order but not the possible charge he could've got.

Heck possession or practice of BDSM porn is illegal in Britain which I also find stupid.

 

[Hussmann54]

I can sort of see the govs way on all this. That stuff is just a portal for people to start doing that stuff for real. I have seen it before.

the things you own, end up owning you- Tyler Durden

So playing GTA will make me a murderer? NOW I KNO!!! /sarcasm

You dont need to write "Sarcasm" out. Im pretty good at picking it out after only a few months on these forums. Oh and "Kno" has a "W" at the end.

Back on subject. He did mail order the stuff so he is guilty. End of argument, and yea they are going to seize it, technically its contraband and they take that stuff.

And technically, Scopes broke the law against teaching evolution in his biology class, so he lost his case.

Yes, he broke the law. That's not the issue. The issue is that the law is quite stupid and the punishment for breaking it doesn't even come close to matching the crime.

And I would like to point out how the media desensitizes people. GTA is considered so run of the mill that it makes murder look like no big deal, or at least belittle it to the point that saying its "just a game" is a legit argument.

That is a legit argument. There's no causal connection between violence and video games.

As for this dude, that's just pathetic. Anime porn? Go out and get a life. Who knows maybe getting canned will make him do just that when he get released. And why are you people crying about his life getting "ruined"? Its the law and he broke it. Cause > Effect.....

You forgot the bestiality. You know, while you're deriding other peoples' tastes.

And we're crying about his life getting "ruined" because of a little thing called "disproportionate retribution." You don't execute people for parking violations, why the hell would you sentence someone to half a year in jail, three years of non-subsidized psych evaluation, and five years of probation on a first-time "offender" for something genuinely harmless?

See the thing about the "law being dumb" (For lack of a better title that I dont feel like thinking up) is that in a self serving society like the one we have become, everyone thinks it should be done their way. If you can live within the system, stop trying to change it and just get out so others dont have to hear you cry about every little thing that doesnt go YOUR way......

As for porn: I think its a pitiful degradation of man kind no matter what "Form" it takes. Those people are never in "love". Its their problem if they cant keep it in their pants.
Im not taking a shot at peoples "taste", Im taking aim at that entire "Sense" all together

There is a casual connection to the video game violence argument. Go study up on your psychology. Hobbies, like video games for instance, tend to effect our social reactions on levels most dont even realize at the time.

 

[Robert632]

Remember that, what was it 15 years old, guy that raped a girl, and probably mentally scarring his victim. just 3 years.

Drawings of probably unrealistic child porn that doesn't mentally scar anybody, you are Saten.

see a problem there?

 

[LordZ]

This reminds of the guy who got arrested for drinking coffee naked, in his kitchen. He wasn't showing off. The person who saw him was trespassing. Yet, he got arrested.

We're quickly losing basic human rights here.

It's time I started wearing hats, lined with tinfoil. The sad thing is, I'm only half joking about that. They've already got tech that lets you read minds to a degree. It's only a matter of time before it becomes accurate enough to convict a person for thought crimes.

 

[101194]

...That isn't right... I'd sue.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

this is why hentai should be banned in every country but Japan :0

 

[markstit]

How much do you wanna bet there's gonna be at least one person who shuffles through their manga collection and/or destroys some of it after reading this thread?

No bet, sai, no bet.

I get the feeling that it wasn't so much he found that kind of thing attractive as it was that he was a collector and "had to have them."

Like a Pokemon master!

"Gotta cache 'em all, gotta cache 'em all, hentai."

Hmmm, not as catchy but i agree.
From what I've seen, people have collected some strange
things and some a lot more hazardous then this. although i don't
condone it, i don't really see where he was breaking the law.
Its a cartoon, better that then the real thing i guess.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Hentai is just weird. What's wrong with just looking at actual people? I can't believe people like this sort of thing.

Because real porn is really awkward to watch without at least a mild voyeur fetish, tends to rely on either no plot setup or unfathomably absurd setup, tends to involve uglier people and much lower emotional appeal, is far more limited in scope and imagination due to inherent "realism", and even has the potential to be dangerous (the danger of emulation).

Just some speculations.

Question: If you're such a sick fucking weirdo that you actually take the time to check legal precedent to double check whether or not your fetish will land you in jail, why shouldn't you be raped forever by gang members?

Frankly, I'd be far more worried about the weirdos who don't care about the legality of their actions. At least the ones who try to make sure it's okay first aren't likely to commit crimes.

 

[elvor0]

I can sort of see the govs way on all this. That stuff is just a portal for people to start doing that stuff for real. I have seen it before.

the things you own, end up owning you- Tyler Durden

So playing GTA will make me a murderer? NOW I KNO!!! /sarcasm

You dont need to write "Sarcasm" out. Im pretty good at picking it out after only a few months on these forums. Oh and "Kno" has a "W" at the end.

Back on subject. He did mail order the stuff so he is guilty. End of argument, and yea they are going to seize it, technically its contraband and they take that stuff.

And technically, Scopes broke the law against teaching evolution in his biology class, so he lost his case.

Yes, he broke the law. That's not the issue. The issue is that the law is quite stupid and the punishment for breaking it doesn't even come close to matching the crime.

And I would like to point out how the media desensitizes people. GTA is considered so run of the mill that it makes murder look like no big deal, or at least belittle it to the point that saying its "just a game" is a legit argument.

That is a legit argument. There's no causal connection between violence and video games.

As for this dude, that's just pathetic. Anime porn? Go out and get a life. Who knows maybe getting canned will make him do just that when he get released. And why are you people crying about his life getting "ruined"? Its the law and he broke it. Cause > Effect.....

You forgot the bestiality. You know, while you're deriding other peoples' tastes.

And we're crying about his life getting "ruined" because of a little thing called "disproportionate retribution." You don't execute people for parking violations, why the hell would you sentence someone to half a year in jail, three years of non-subsidized psych evaluation, and five years of probation on a first-time "offender" for something genuinely harmless?

See the thing about the "law being dumb" (For lack of a better title that I dont feel like thinking up) is that in a self serving society like the one we have become, everyone thinks it should be done their way. If you can live within the system, stop trying to change it and just get out so others dont have to hear you cry about every little thing that doesnt go YOUR way......

As for porn: I think its a pitiful degradation of man kind no matter what "Form" it takes. Those people are never in "love". Its their problem if they cant keep it in their pants.
Im not taking a shot at peoples "taste", Im taking aim at that entire "Sense" all together

There is a casual connection to the video game violence argument. Go study up on your psychology. Hobbies, like video games for instance, tend to effect our social reactions on levels most dont even realize at the time.

I don't know about you, but the thing you just complained about is called DEMOCRACY. It's the opposite of a dictatorship, look it up, heck you might like it.

Also porn isnt supposed to be about people in love, sex doesnt always have to be about love, it can just be for fun, stop being such a grumpy bastard. And yes, violence in games is "just a game" because that's what it is, a game.

 

[Canton]

As disgusting and wierd as it all is..

.."possession of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children"..Is that actually illegal?

It sounds hilariously Specific.

Technically he wasn't charged for possession but for transporting the obscene material using "interstate commerce"

Simple possession of obscene material cannot be criminalized under the "right to privacy" of the 4th amendment of the U.S constitution.
So anyone is free to own obscene material in private, they're just not allowed to use "interstate commerce" to acquire said material.

So if he had gone to Japan himself and bought some there, then brought it back he would be fine?

Commercial airline/ship transport can still be classified under "interstate commerce" so. . . no.

 

[breadlord]

Joys of being a lawyer. Can't get hentai, but want it for free? Sue someone for it.

I told was that a similar story yesterday. Involving food.

 

[elvor0]

As disgusting and wierd as it all is..

.."possession of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children"..Is that actually illegal?

It sounds hilariously Specific.

Technically he wasn't charged for possession but for transporting the obscene material using "interstate commerce"

Simple possession of obscene material cannot be criminalized under the "right to privacy" of the 4th amendment of the U.S constitution.
So anyone is free to own obscene material in private, they're just not allowed to use "interstate commerce" to acquire said material.

So if he had gone to Japan himself and bought some there, then brought it back he would be fine?

Commercial airline/ship transport can still be classified under "interstate commerce" so. . . no.

Ah so, if he builds his own boat, he's fine!

 

[Yawwy]

Like a Pokemon master!

Gotta fap to 'em all!

No,but seriously...really?I mean I get it,the guy was buying some pretty weird stuff.But this is just overkill.Was he actually going out and forcing a dog to get with a small child?Not as far as I can see.Although,if he was,that'd be a reason to bring him up in court.I mean,they're line's on a bit of paper,as others have said.What's to stop someone from finding,say,the Declaration of Independance arousing?Are we going to bring that guy,or girl,to court?

Yes,I understand that it's what the lines are depicting that is the problem,but let's face it,we can all get much worse within the time it takes us to do a very quick google search.And when the lawyer said something like 'It was all there.Imagine it,and it was there',my only thought was that there was no way that those things had things as bad as your average person could dream up.I say leave the guy alone.Maybe keep an eye on him,in case he does try it out for real,but it's not likely.Just let him get along with his own weird fantasies.I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people have something that they'd rather not admit to another when it comes to what they find arousing.It may not be something this bad,it might just be that you find longer hair sexier on a girl,or gingers better than blondes.I dunno,it's a diverse world out there!And someone has got to give the weirdos some loving now and again.

 

[lyfeindeyth]

This means I could get 6 months in jail....

<__>

HAHAHAHAHA I love this post

 

[MortisLegio]

Wow He just made every person on this site look bad

 

[accountant]

It is illegal, but he shouldn't have been jailed, seriously, he's just a normal guy who happened to buy some hentai, one in the male population of Japan.

 

[Delock]

As has been pointed out many times before, they arrested him based on what he found stimulating. In other words, THE GOVERNMENT CAN ARREST YOU IF YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY. That is most defintely unconstitutional. The fact that the material itself is being treated as evidence of guilt of a crime never committed is even worse. It also means that artists as well as collectors now have to be careful of what they buy. That's right, you can no longer own a priceless Renaissance painting because it contains violent images or sexual themes despite being a huge part of histoy. Oh, and music will now soon have to be censored. We can't have any inappropriate themes in there like say opposing the police (as in 90% of rap), hatred of the government (some metal music there), or any relations to drugs since all of these will lead to crime. Don't forget to dispose of your great great grandfather's rifle from the Civil War since it either makes you a murderer or a usurper to the United States.

Oh, and turn in those bibles with all the incest, rape, genocide, murders, destruction of property, theft, adultry, castration, sexual deviancy, and the devil himself. That has obviously been plaguing our culture for too long.