Hentai Collector Sentenced to Jail Over "Obscene" Material

[Grabbin Keelz]

This isn't a punishment...this is a message. The government could have made it private if they wanted to, but they didn't. They used him to show what will happen to all other (potential) pedophiles if they ever try anything like that. I don't think they're planning on doing a pedophile crackdown, if they did I'm sure they would have caught many more people by now. They're using this guy as an example so everyone else will be too scared to follow his actions.

There was a comment earlier that said that more than likely some people are gonna trash their porn or other illegal stuff right after reading this. And you know what? I believe it. After all, we can complain about the government all we want, but when it comes down to free will vs. 15 years in prison plus a stupid huge fine, were gonna pick the latter. This is a technique done by the most basic of societies. Putting someone's head on a pike for talking smack to the king may be a harsh punishment, but you can bet your ass noone else is gonna try it after.

I still sympathize with the child perv because regardless of what he could have done, there was no proof that he did anything or that he was even gonna do it.

 

[Rpground]

They should have given him a warning or something before destroying his life and treating him like a convicted pedophile.

This. If the guy likes drawings of kids having sex, then for the love of god, why can't the government warn him, keep tabs on him, keep it quiet and keep an eye on him just to be sure he doesn't harm any actual children? he might be a pervert but he's never actually hurt anyone.

It's the "war on paedophiles" mindset. They're not people who have some inherent problem or unchangeable desire in the eyes of hysterical society, and they're not unfortunate people who need to be given some form of psychiatric help in order to ensure that their harmful potential isn't allowed to manifest itself in sexually abusing children while helping them to live them out normal lives they possibly can.

Nope, in the eyes of society they're all vicious inhuman perverts FROM SPACE who want to fuck all our children and harm them because they love it, and we should be seeking them out so we can expose them and have them lynched! Watch out, they're everywhere! don't be fooled by reason, they're not ordinary people with a crippling sexual desire for kids, they're monsters hiding in cupboards!

We need to perpetuate the mindset that they should all be beaten to death! After all, how will the situation ever get better if we instead choose to spread a mindset that allows paedophiles to come forward in search of help so that the law can be watchful of them while helping them to refrain from harming our kids? That's just what they want! If we try to help them overcome this and become normal functioning members of society to the best of our ability then our kids won't be safe! not even the entirely fictitious and imaginary kids that someone drew on some paper! We need to kick the shit out of paedophiles and force them to instead stay underground, repressing them until they boil over and they start harming kids under our noses!

believe it or not,if you change all mentions or children and pedophiles,then change it all to homosexual then think back a few years...make you think were just going threw the cycles again huh...its not like the loli fetish harms anyone,if you understand the line between reality and fantasy i say its ok.just like the homosexual case,its not harming anyone,but your looked at like some sex freak that wants to rub up against other men all the time,and try to have sex with them...you really just threw it all out in the open with you comment for everyone to understand,well done! i commend you for making a comment look like it came from some crazy person,but when looked into its really thought out and when thought about you can draw parallels.

 

[Rpground]

Their is hentai (anime style porn) and than screwed up shit like this. Drawn porn I can understand, but drawn porn depicting children is what gives the Japanese a bad rap.

ya know...its not JUST the Japanese that draws this stuff,MANY Americans draw this stuff too...but yet most people just point the finger to Japan. i just hope you know that...

I know, and it pisses me off that the Japanese get flak for that too. Give the blame to those responsible guys! Don't just blame Japan because they're "weird".

ahh,excellent! i was a little worried that you were one of those people that goes "its all japans fault". ah but yes,it doesnt matter where your from you can be even more "weird" or "gross" then other people from anywhere really. hear,hear!

 

[Rpground]

I'm going to take a wild bet, and say that if you looked at comics depicting children being raped, or just having sex. Then after a while you would no longer find it bad. And a while after that, you'd see no problems with seeing others do it. Little bit later, you could do it yourself and not care in the slightest. I'm not willing to test this theory because I'd like to refrain from becoming more messed up than I already am. But if violence can seep in like that, then so can loli.

Even having played Riddick as many times as you have, I'm going to guess you still won't kill anybody IRL. That's because you have the ability to separate fantasy from fiction. Being desensitized to /fantasy/ violence doesn't mean you're a psychotic murderer outside the game. I'm sure we can extend the same line of reasoning to loli.

Only played it once and didn't even finish, one point was just annoying.

No, I'm not likely to go out and kill anyone. But I'm still desensitized enough to be ok with violence in real life. If it was a video game showing bits and pieces of people it wouldn't be an issue. It's photos of real people that I'm ok with and I shouldn't be. If we apply the same line of reasoning to loli, then at some point the difference between "lines on a page" and the real thing won't be there. So the real thing will be ok to this person as well as the drawings.

The point you missed was that fantasy desensitized me to reality. If that's the case then it can do it with loli.

Or to put it another way, I'm 22 and don't see anything wrong with violence murder, gore and death. Still a long while left for any other effects of that to manifest.

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So many spelling mistakes that.. 'sighs' Pathetic. Bed time

...wow,i have played manhunt blade and many other gore-tastic games.i dont have a problem with gib and violence in a video game,but im squeamish as all fuck in real life.so no sorry,your argument is flawed.seeing as your line of reality and fantasy is becoming non-existent,you cant apply this to anyone you see fit.

 

[Grabbin Keelz]

Better burn all those videogames before they get you for obscene material representing murder.

I should not be like that. It is a dangerous place to be when you no longer see violence as bad, but just.. There. Common. Who cares.

There was a quote in a video game once, or somewhere else. I don't know.

"The first time you see someone shanked in the showers, you puke. The next time you feel queasy and walk around the body. After a while, you just step over them and keep walking".

The material you are around affects you deeply, you just don't realise it at the time. All the violent video games, movies, news.. I've seen news footage where there's a soldier aiming his rifle, for no reason at all he ducks back, half a second later a rocket hits where he was from behind and takes out the concrete house.

I open Chronicles of Riddick, sneak through a ventilation shaft behind someone, then pull out a shotgun, and shoot people. Or walk up to them and stab them.

All that, and Chronicles of Riddick is quite fun by the way, has now turned me into what I'd best describe as a monster. Unfeeling even when presented with extreme violence. I'm so fucking jaded I need a shrink and didn't even know it.


I'm going to take a wild bet, and say that if you looked at comics depicting children being raped, or just having sex. Then after a while you would no longer find it bad. And a while after that, you'd see no problems with seeing others do it. Little bit later, you could do it yourself and not care in the slightest. I'm not willing to test this theory because I'd like to refrain from becoming more messed up than I already am. But if violence can seep in like that, then so can loli.

Like you, I also have a love for violent games. Games like Fallout 3 where I stabbed a guy in cold blood because I wanted his hat or Deadrising 2 where I fed a zombie's body through a saw powered vacuum cleaner and watched the blood wash over Chuck's body until I forgot he was wearing blue (which was fucking awesome btw). Unlike you however, I wince at the sight of someone being tortured, I shiver at descriptions of blood and gore, and I feel woozy when I see a large amount of blood.

The key is knowing what is real and what isn't. Knowing the difference between right and wrong in a virtual world compared to the real world. Knowing that murder and child molestation in a virtual world is far different from reality. I will continue to play awesome violent games and I will not be corrupted by the inhumanity of it because I choose not to. I'll be damned if I let my subconscious get the better of my reasoning.

 

[dj Facchiano]

Though it may seem sick to us, The owner obviously didn't want anyone to know about it. I think his imprisonment is sickening, Obviously the ruling came from judgmental bastards. I deeply believe that "People should be able to do whatever the hell they want, as long as nobody is hurt in the process" I'm sure the guy was a nice person in real life, maybe... ok probably not normal person but the fact of the matter is what he took part in did not hurt or have the potential to hurt anyone, and the ruling was based completely on people not understanding what the mans....... Fetish is a good word I guess.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Just minding his own business and someone's like "I don't like you whacking it to drawings! Hmm..."
I don't agree with this, FYI.

 

[Rpground]

They should have given him a warning or something before destroying his life and treating him like a convicted pedophile.

This. If the guy likes drawings of kids having sex, then for the love of god, why can't the government warn him, keep tabs on him, keep it quiet and keep an eye on him just to be sure he doesn't harm any actual children? he might be a pervert but he's never actually hurt anyone.

It's the "war on paedophiles" mindset. They're not people who have some inherent problem or unchangeable desire in the eyes of hysterical society, and they're not unfortunate people who need to be given some form of psychiatric help in order to ensure that their harmful potential isn't allowed to manifest itself in sexually abusing children while helping them to live them out normal lives they possibly can.

Nope, in the eyes of society they're all vicious inhuman perverts FROM SPACE who want to fuck all our children and harm them because they love it, and we should be seeking them out so we can expose them and have them lynched! Watch out, they're everywhere! don't be fooled by reason, they're not ordinary people with a crippling sexual desire for kids, they're monsters hiding in cupboards!

We need to perpetuate the mindset that they should all be beaten to death! After all, how will the situation ever get better if we instead choose to spread a mindset that allows paedophiles to come forward in search of help so that the law can be watchful of them while helping them to refrain from harming our kids? That's just what they want! If we try to help them overcome this and become normal functioning members of society to the best of our ability then our kids won't be safe! not even the entirely fictitious and imaginary kids that someone drew on some paper! We need to kick the shit out of paedophiles and force them to instead stay underground, repressing them until they boil over and they start harming kids under our noses!

believe it or not,if you change all mentions or children and pedophiles,then change it all to homosexual then think back a few years...make you think were just going threw the cycles again huh...its not like the loli fetish harms anyone,if you understand the line between reality and fantasy i say its ok.just like the homosexual case,its not harming anyone,but your looked at like some sex freak that wants to rub up against other men all the time,and try to have sex with them...you really just threw it all out in the open with you comment for everyone to understand,well done! i commend you for making a comment look like it came from some crazy person,but when looked into its really thought out and when thought about you can draw parallels.

It was almost convincing? I wanted it to be a very clearly sarcastic comment, scathing to people that genuinely have that potentially severely harmful attitude to paedophiles. I guess I'm just good at playing stupid, crazy people.

And you could say we're going through the cycles again, and we still have to aim for changing society's perception of homosexuality as a purely sexual thing, rather than also a platonic love that two people can share happily.

However, when it comes to paedophiles, the only way I would like to change the attitude is let them look at drawings of kids if they want, keep an eye on them, give them the option to come forward confidentially for some sort of help if they're scared of harming children and want help controlling it, and if they start abusing kids... well then, they've crossed a terrible line. I never want it accepted and allowed because it is harmful, very harmful, simple as that. But I do want to see society replace it's "BEAT THEM TO DEATH THE SICKOS" attitude with more "Try to help them live normal, non-abusing lives and keep a close watch on them. Restrict them when it comes to being around children but keep them getting help for this problem." I know you could draw a parallel between that sort of thinking and those who want to use science to "cure" homosexuality, but I would argue that in this case, it's justified. Homosexuality between consenting adults is fine. Child abuse is not, by any means, fine. But if we keep making paedophiles scared of public wrath and instead try to offer them some sort of help, then we can have them come forward - not only alerting the government to a potential threat but trying to help them live normally. If we keep repressing them the way we are, they'll just go deeper and deeper underground, undetected around our children. As for the media hysteria over it, that can fuck right off too. The last thing you want when you're protecting your kids is some arsehole tabloid screaming insane paedophile horror stories at you.

And as for this jail sentence? that can go fuck itself as well.

couldnt have said it better myself. and yeah,i was just pointing out the parallels,im not supporting pedophilia. just noticed the line that we're treating DRAWN pictures of non-existant characters and the people that have them is being treated like a disease. i do agree keep a close eye on them,it would make sense to instead of just ignoring them all together. that way they can stop said person before they decide to bring their fantasy into reality. and yeah,that jail thing is just WAY too extreme.