Here we go again: Anita Sarkeesian and the gaming community

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Haerthan said:
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Well, the writing for the first game was utter trash, so it's not like it can get any worse.

I find Anita to be a useless human being, but this really isn't a development anyone should be mad about.
I understand you might not like Anita dude, but saying she's useless? No she is not, and that is veering a bit close to trolling. She criticizes games. That in of itself isn't useless.
I don't like or especially dislike her. But I don't think any of her work is useful for much of anything.
 

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Well it is usefull in that one it criticizes games and shows areas of improvement and two she showed us that we still got issues to deal with.
Yes, there are certainly issues we as gamers still have to deal with.

Namely, people like her.

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I don't care.
Her idea for a "great feminist game" is an abducted princess becoming the dude with tits trope she herself declared ohsosexist so it's not like she has any consistency apart from some vague concept of "empowerment" so this will have very little effect on the story about a woman being capable.

As for game mechanics and control schemes?
I don't see why they would listen to advice from her in that department since that has nothing to do with feminism and there are people in the dev team with more experience of that than her.
 

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I don't really care. I don't agree with a lot of her views, but if the game's still good, I don't mind.
 

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Yea, but the "backlash" she suffered is a clear sign that even knowing about those issues is not enough. That we gotta deal with them. And you believe that the gist of it is that if wasn't her, then the backlash wouldn't have happened? If that is true, please correct if not, than boy oh boy are you wrong.
 

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this is awesome! the time has come for the great reckoning! patron saint of Femanzi's Sarkessian has infiltrated the gamer space! AAAAHH HAHAHAHAHAHA

actual answer: I think having a bit of a feminist perspective isn't a bad thing
 
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Well it is usefull in that one it criticizes games and shows areas of improvement and two she showed us that we still got issues to deal with.
If you think those criticisms and issues are valid and that stating them is helpful, that's fine. I do not consider that to be the case. Therefore, I find her useless.
 

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Vault101 said:
this is awesome! the time has come for the great reckoning! patron saint of Femanzi's Sarkessian has infiltrated the gamer space! AAAAHH HAHAHAHAHAHA

actual answer: I think having a bit of a feminist perspective isn't a bad thing
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The only video I saw (accidentally) of Ms. Sarkeesian was when she was a guest at Colbert Report. From the interview she didn't convince me that she knows a lot about video games.

If she can gain anything from the experience of game developing perspective, I say that's a plus.
 

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This bothers me, but only because it gives Anita even more press and credibility. The only reason she's as prevalent as she is is because of how much she's talked about. While some of her views are actually instructive and occasionally interesting, there's always a moment or two in her videos where she jumps to ridiculous conclusions based on nothing more than her own assumptions.

If everyone had just ignored her she would still be only one step up from any other person who raves on Youtube. Instead she's considered a credible source of commentary, which is a little sad. And now she's even getting jobs based on this notoriety, which would bother me less if I felt she actually knew enough about video gaming to offer the company any credible insight.

It's annoying, nothing more. The solution would be to stop making threads like these, but it's likely way too late for that.
 

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I thought this was old news. Seriously I've known about this for months. And wasn't Mirror's Edge just kind of boring to begin with?
I have to agree with you, I herd about this at least 6 months ago. Plus even though we know her 'consulting' won't improve the game, it's not like the quality can get much worst since it was mediocre gameplay mixed with a horrible story. I don't think they'd have someone with zero programming skills consult them on gameplay after all.
Pretty much, this is old old news. And, frankly, it's not that controversial. I doubt the suits in charge would allow her to affect the game in any negative way. In other words, if you think the game is suddenly going to involve a lone feminazi warrior resisting the powers of the patriarchy, then you may be disappointed. It'll probably be the same experience as the last game. It may still suck, but it won't be because of Anita Sarkeesian. And I'm legitimately curious to see her put her money where her mouth is.
 

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Well if it was a guy would the backlash diminish? Because I specifically remember seeing some of those disgusting comments thrown against referencing rape and murder and other things. Just because she was a woman criticizing games, cause games are sacrosanct apparently. So yea I still believe that if it was a woman the same thing would have happened. If it was a guy the backlash would have been smaller. and i snip so that it doesn't make a giant post.
 

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Cheap publicity stunt is cheap. I don't think anything will really come of this.
 

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Vault101:987 said:
actual answer: I think having a bit of a feminist perspective isn't a bad thing
Well that's incredibly insulting. This comment in particular seems to indicate you don't believe there were feminists having their perspectives listened to before Sarkeesian appeared out of the ether...
 

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Is she a /paid/ consultant?
Does anyone have an answer for this?

After all, the real question is, are they hiring her because they think she has good ideas, or to avoid being a target in her next video? I bet it's the latter, under the guise of the former. And I think it's good to let her into the studio, see how games are made, and give her one less target to ***** about. I see no problem with this.

And even if they're paying her, it's probably not for her ideas. EA likely sees it as an inexpensive marketing investment.
 

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Well if it was a guy would the backlash diminish? Because I specifically remember seeing some of those disgusting comments thrown against referencing rape and murder and other things. Just because she was a woman criticizing games, cause games are sacrosanct apparently. So yea I still believe that if it was a woman the same thing would have happened. If it was a guy the backlash would have been smaller. and i snip so that it doesn't make a giant post.
I disagree that if it was a man talking about gender issues in games that the backlash would be smaller.The internet houses all sorts of hateful people and they don't care what gender you are if you start talking about something they don't want to be talked about.
Nah the backlash would have been greatly dimished in my eyes. Because it was a dude that did. And yes the internet houses a TON of hateful people, but the largest backlash was directed at a woman, not a guy.
 

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I disagree that if it was a man talking about gender issues in games that the backlash would be smaller.The internet houses all sorts of hateful people and they don't care what gender you are if you start talking about something they don't want to be talked about.
Sure, there's plenty of hateful people who don't care what gender you are, but I think there are more hateful mysoginists than hateful misandrists, so I would expect more hate towards a lady.

Though I guess you think there's an equal amount, who knows?
 

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Is she a /paid/ consultant?
Does anyone have an answer for this?

After all, the real question is, are they hiring her because they think she has good ideas, or to avoid being a target in her next video? I bet it's the latter, under the guise of the former. And I think it's good to let her into the studio, see how games are made, and give her one less target to ***** about. I see no problem with this.

And even if they're paying her, it's probably not for her ideas. EA likely sees it as an inexpensive marketing investment.
Ok both of you need to read the edit. She's not consulting for ME2 for EA. And she doesn't have targets dude. If there is one thing I took from her videos is that she doesn't care about who makes the game, she cares about criticizing the games themselves.

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Well if it was a guy would the backlash diminish? Because I specifically remember seeing some of those disgusting comments thrown against referencing rape and murder and other things. Just because she was a woman criticizing games, cause games are sacrosanct apparently. So yea I still believe that if it was a woman the same thing would have happened. If it was a guy the backlash would have been smaller. and i snip so that it doesn't make a giant post.
I disagree that if it was a man talking about gender issues in games that the backlash would be smaller.The internet houses all sorts of hateful people and they don't care what gender you are if you start talking about something they don't want to be talked about.
Nah the backlash would have been greatly dimished in my eyes. Because it was a dude that did. And yes the internet houses a TON of hateful people, but the largest backlash was directed at a woman, not a guy.
Two words that contradict that:Jack Thompson.
Yea but there weren't death threats sent to him were there? There weren't games made up that showed him with a face beaten to a pulp were there? He wasn't doxxed and scared out of his house, was he? My questions are actual valid questions, I actually don't know. Yea he faced massive opposition, but the community didn't lose its shit as bad as with Anita Sarkeesian. So while your example is good, the opposition against a person that actively sought to censor videogames was much smaller than against Anita Sarkeesian, who only criticizes games. Also let us not forget that most of the opposition was the publishers, developers and their reps in Washington, not the community.