Here we go again: Anita Sarkeesian and the gaming community
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Well the Anita Sarkeesian/Mirror's Edge 2 thing has been proven to be false. She had a chat with EA I believe, and that lead to this paranoia.
It was just another example of people acting like she's the next Margaret Thatcher and she's on a crusade to invade our video games (oh no!)
I wonder if The Escapist will make a new subforum specifically for people to talk about Anita Sarkeesian. There's a few threads a week and they all basically say the same thing.
It was just another example of people acting like she's the next Margaret Thatcher and she's on a crusade to invade our video games (oh no!)
I wonder if The Escapist will make a new subforum specifically for people to talk about Anita Sarkeesian. There's a few threads a week and they all basically say the same thing.
This isn't reddit, Youtube or 4chan. If you can't say anything longer than a few words or avoid insulting others, don't post.norwegian goose said:
I don't know, I'm disappointed and I feel like a complete idiot for anticipating Mirror's Edge II. I was also one of the few gamers that didn't throw stones against EA; I wasn't exactly supporting them, but I thought all this hatred against EA was unjustified. Well in a way EA managed to prove me right. People in EA are primarily idiots above anything else. They took the decision to involve that toxic person in the development of Mirror's Edge II, and with this way they scored an own-goal without any logical reason. Really who thought that the involvement of that person would do any good to Mirror's Edge? It's a lose-lose situation for everybody. Good job EA....
Did you read the OPs edits? At all? She's not consulting for ME2, it was just a rumor taken as true in order to continue the witch hunt against her. So you can sleep well at night knowing that no super duper crazy cray-crayyyy radical feminazi is anywhere near the production of that game.....that we know of anyway bwaaaahahahaha...sorry about that.Rheinmetall said:
You could just have said what you wanted to say without the irony. I don't know if I'm asking for too much here...Alex1508 said:
Fyi, I will sleep well at night regardless.
You could have made a post free from histrionics. Instead, this story (which is confirmed not true) of one bland woman working as a consultant for a single game pushed the drama levels to 11 and totes proved how idiotic EA is.Rheinmetall said:
The sarcasm was likely less aimed at you being misinformed and more at that.
I meant you and me.Haerthan said:
You don't know me.Haerthan said:
Saying stuff likeHaerthan said:
Is pretty condescending and is not any sort of thing you'd see in a debate.
Your apology seems empty after you pull the "YOU DONT KNOW REAL SUFFERING" card.Haerthan said:
Ok here we go:Lovely Mixture said:
1) NO I dont know you. But you brushing under the carpet actual hostility in favour of some "hostility" gives me a pretty accurate idea. That is not meant as an insult just so we know.
2) How is providing proof that supports my idea condescending?
3) No you don't know real suffering. I don't know real suffering. But I do know people who had actually suffered. So your cries of censorship diminish actual censorship. Your cries of being "oppressed" diminishes actual oppression. And you can take my apology or not. I really don't care. I know when I am in the wrong and I apologized for it.
Captcha: French toast. Yep it is official. Captcha is sentient. For the last week I had only stuff liket that pop up from it.
Caramel Frappe said:
Yes... she could actually improve by stopping to doctoring "evidence" like her hitman gamefootage to make a ludicrous point, she could stop telling blatant lies ala "Krystal was to star in her very own game" or "this game encourages you to enact violence upon females so you get a boner from it" or "games effect people in a negative way despite all the evidence that points the other way"
And you havent seen her openly disrespect men? Guess you dont take a closer look at her other stuff then.
How about her claiming that there is no such thing as sexism against men? In my book that is BLATANTLY disrespecting males.
And she has given no one a reason to dislike her? Shes telling blatant lies, she makes herselfe a victim and profits massively from it.. she gives gamers a bad name because a couple hundret trolls spammed her video and twitter and to top it all off shes not even comming up with the things she says herselfe! Instead getting told by a MAN (Mcintosh) who is not only the producer but also the writer for her series, making her a complete hack.
Thats right... the champion of womens rights, the strong independend feminist in gaming is being told what to say and how to say it by a male... *golfclap*
Hypocrasy at its finest.
Sarkesian has no integrity left.. but hey.. atleast she stopped stealing other peoples footage... thats something.
If it had been true, I would have been mildly amused at Anita making money off the community she loathes, and would love to play the game and rip it apart to find all the moments that I can twist to look sexist like she does, but...whatever. It would be amusing, but not a travesty.
Like you proceed to do in the rest of that paragraph. Do two wrongs make a right?Karadalis said:
Can't help but notice you still haven't told him where Jim gets flaky.Lovely Mixture said:
His bio on Twitter and the credits of some or all of the TVW videos list him as a co-writer. So it's partially true. Of course, collaborating with a man is only a bad thing if you care absolutely nothing for truth value of statements or Anita's positions.TheKasp said:
I'll do what Anita's critics won't and include the evidence. They likely won't because it actually undermines their claims:
http://www.feministfrequency.com/about/
Important point:
I suppose I should just be impressed that critics have finally found a point they're partially right about.
I agree. Sure what harm can it do?ninja666 said:
And she's now actually becoming part of the creative process of a game. Something her detractors were constantly harping on about. Fair play to her.
She's complained about things in the gaming industry, and now she's putting her money where her mouth is and stepping up and trying to change things from within, in a small way.
Like I said, fair play, and I'd be genuinely interested in learning about her feedback about the whole process, even though lately I've kinda lost interest in the whole feminist frequency/gamergate thing.
This page and his Twitter are usually claimed as sources, which goes to your issue of them learning English to better understand. Assuming they're not doing this intentionally, or just parroting others.TheKasp said:
I wasn't sure if you were aware he's credited, but this is something Kardalis has been corrected on several times.
Anita Sarkeesian is a hack.
I support what she is standing for, and think that she is right sometimes, but I don't support her. She's let her fame go to her head and she is actually in my eyes a bit of a misandrist. EVERY time that a women is depicted in a negative light, even if it would make perfect sense to do so she decries it as "sexist".
Anita? Equal depiction of women means that as well as strong, good female characters we need to have evil women characters and utter assholes that just happen to be women. That's what "equal" means- all parts are EQUAL, with none exceeding the other. If all we do is put women on a pedestal then that means women and men are not equal because women are constantly placed in a superior position to men. It's good that she wants women to be better represented but she is honestly starting to get too famous for her own good and it is letting her say whatever she wants without people calling her out on it, and because she stands behind the banner of "equal rights" we are not allowed to call her out on her behaviour without being labelled as sexist.
Malcolm X actually advocated black separatism, which is basically reverse apartheid and stated that blacks where superior to whites. If he was a white dude we would call him a racist pig but since he hid behind the banner of civil rights (incidentally disgracing other, true civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King and Jesse Jackson) he's seen as one of the most important civil rights leaders of all time.
Anita Sarkeesian's cause is just, but as the public figurehead of it she is turning it into just another supremacist organization. Ban me from the site if you want, but I stand behind actual feminists who wants us all to be equal and not a hack who thinks that the only equality is supremacy of a different kind.
I support what she is standing for, and think that she is right sometimes, but I don't support her. She's let her fame go to her head and she is actually in my eyes a bit of a misandrist. EVERY time that a women is depicted in a negative light, even if it would make perfect sense to do so she decries it as "sexist".
Anita? Equal depiction of women means that as well as strong, good female characters we need to have evil women characters and utter assholes that just happen to be women. That's what "equal" means- all parts are EQUAL, with none exceeding the other. If all we do is put women on a pedestal then that means women and men are not equal because women are constantly placed in a superior position to men. It's good that she wants women to be better represented but she is honestly starting to get too famous for her own good and it is letting her say whatever she wants without people calling her out on it, and because she stands behind the banner of "equal rights" we are not allowed to call her out on her behaviour without being labelled as sexist.
Malcolm X actually advocated black separatism, which is basically reverse apartheid and stated that blacks where superior to whites. If he was a white dude we would call him a racist pig but since he hid behind the banner of civil rights (incidentally disgracing other, true civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King and Jesse Jackson) he's seen as one of the most important civil rights leaders of all time.
Anita Sarkeesian's cause is just, but as the public figurehead of it she is turning it into just another supremacist organization. Ban me from the site if you want, but I stand behind actual feminists who wants us all to be equal and not a hack who thinks that the only equality is supremacy of a different kind.
I explained.Zachary Amaranth said:
He'll support criticism of certain practices and advocate for consumer rights.....until his friends are involved.
http://imgur.com/a/hHLaP
I'm not sure what you think that link shows, but I'm not seeing it. This is probably one of those things that needs to be mansplained, though, like most of Gamergate. You haven't really answered him, you've given some vague non-committal answer and balked at clarification.Lovely Mixture said:
Meanwhile, you're ignoring Gearbox.
Can't help but notice that none of those claims are actually rooted in her stances.SilverLion said: