Along the same lines, we should start a Grizzled and Brown-Haired Male Game Protagonist Day. Also known as Dudebromas.Phasmal said:
The one-dimensional cardboard cutouts - I mean, the bros - need representation too!
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The one-dimensional cardboard cutouts - I mean, the bros - need representation too!
You say DudeBro regarding this, but I've seen a very large number of people who love to trash on dudebros as not real gamers lose their minds anytime a character who couldn't be described like that is included in a game....IamLEAM1983 said:
Oh, I know.Avnger said:
That's because the Brown-Haired and Stubble-Sporting Caucasian Male in his Mid-to-Late Thirties - or BHSSCMMLT, pronounced "Beskmelt" - is the aesthetic average in the industry. Include one of those, and you instantly guarantee that 75% of your audience will feel adequately represented. Mention any other type of protagonist, though, and the Beskmelts immediately turn defensive, more or less crowing "BUT WHAT ABOUT ME?! CATER TO ME! CATER TO ME NOW OR I'LL TAKE TO REDDIT!"
I'm having trouble finding this. Could you link me?RaikuFA said:
Even if true (on which point I have my doubts, considering the number of supportive straight people at most Pride events, and the sheer nonissue it is), this is the most trivial crap.
The whole point of gay pride was a strength in numbers thing in a world where they faced SERIOUS repercussions physically, psychologically, and financially for being out.
I get that some of you are saying heterosexuals get some back talk from whatever group, but it is hardly the mass oppression that would somehow require anything like what the LGBT community needed just to stand strong together.
Trying to set this up in contrast with gay pride trivializes the reason why gay pride was necessary in the first place. It's like a petulant child saying, "Hold on now, my brother gets an inhaler? I want one too. I don't have asthma but I better get one!"
Besides, don't we already have Mardi Gras? (and by default every other parade/day)
I get that some of you are saying heterosexuals get some back talk from whatever group, but it is hardly the mass oppression that would somehow require anything like what the LGBT community needed just to stand strong together.
Trying to set this up in contrast with gay pride trivializes the reason why gay pride was necessary in the first place. It's like a petulant child saying, "Hold on now, my brother gets an inhaler? I want one too. I don't have asthma but I better get one!"
Besides, don't we already have Mardi Gras? (and by default every other parade/day)
That's a great analogy. I'm totally going to steal it.Lightknight said:
LGBT Pride is about solidarity rather than simply being happy about your own sexuality. You can actually march and join in with gay pride events whilst being heterosexual, I have and it was really fun. I for one have never been discriminated against by any LGBT people for being heterosexual... and even if you have been then you're still in the overwhelming majority so how much effect would it have actually had on your life compared to a gay person who's been disowned from their family or bullied at school or alienated from their religion or community etc.?
It's true that being openly homophobic can get you a lot of aggro... but you aren't entitled to have people be nice to you if you act like a prick.
Don't we all celebrate lesbians every day in the comfort of our own homes? Truly this decadence has spread too far and wide. Back in my day you'd get labeled "hoe of the week" if someone saw you licking your lips in public!
OK, the Day is fine, let them have it, BUT only unwanted children are allowed to attend the parade. Y'know, something truly unique to heterosexual relationships.
OK, the Day is fine, let them have it, BUT only unwanted children are allowed to attend the parade. Y'know, something truly unique to heterosexual relationships.
Righto. No actual detail, there, of course, so we don't actually know what happened. The number of times I've seen people claim discrimination on the basis of a few snarky remarks on the internet has made me more than a little wary; I have yet to see much of any substance.RaikuFA said:
"Discriminates" by... saying a few trivial things? Well, sure, it can be irritating, but that's not remotely comparable to actual systemic discrimination, so it's a little rich to call that hypocrisy.RaikuFA said:
Frankly, it'd be absurd to take the actions of "any member of the LGBT community" and judge all those who share their demographic on that basis. The fault would lie almost entirely in whoever was engaging in guilt-by-association by judging the "cause" for what that member said.
It should still be noted that discriminated people can themselves be bigots, and its certainly sad when it happens. Even the early gay rights movement were themselves flooded with sexism and racism. Thinking that women, lesbians included should still be doing solely domestic work, and keeping out transgendered people so they don't hurt their image.Silvanus said:
Even today effeminate homosexuals are still often discriminated against by "straight-acting" gays who feel they again, hurt their image to mainstream society.
Not to say a few bad apples give people the right to dismiss the LGBT community at large, but there are plenty who have the idea in their head that discriminated people intrinsically CAN NOT discriminate, and that's a dangerous thing. You cannot expect people to treat you equally if you wont do the same.
Well, certainly, but I don't think anybody is denying this. I'm contesting the idea that getting a bit defensive about Pride constitutes significant discrimination or hypocrisy. I've not seen this supposed discrimination against straight people, nor have I heard any credible account, and am damn near certain it's just a number of trivial incidents being blown out of proportion. Not remotely comparable.Saelune said:
Because that person is just mean most likely. Some people like to exclude instead of include. Any self-respecting gay person would love to have straight people get involved or just enjoy the festivities. Anyone who would keep out someone for merely being straight is doing themselves and the LGBT community a disservice.RaikuFA said:
I never got pride about sexuality, since people are just born as it, it isn't like they did something to earn it. It'd be like having blond hair or tall legs pride days. Being proud over something you chanced into is just dumb and arrogant. Be proud of your achievements.
But it IS about achievements. Its not really merely about being gay, but about being yourself despite adversity. About getting to where we are now compared to where we were. It would be like criticizing Black History month as merely celebrating being black. Did you know its in Febraury cause its when Lincoln and Frederick Douglas was born? Its about celebrating humanity, since before Lincoln, in the US, black people were not considered human, but property.Dreiko said:
If people are considered inhuman or lesser for being blonde or having long legs, and then they work to make that change, then they would have an understandable celebration too.
Its dumb and arrogant to ignore history.
Interesting....kurokotetsu said:
I'm still far too ashamed of my unnatural tastes to ever be comfortable participating in such an event myself, but it's still interesting regardless!
I have no idea; ask them. They represent only themselves. Again, every Pride event I've been to has had a lot of supportive straight people there, and so judging "the cause" based on some guy being a bit defensive or controlling would be ridiculous.RaikuFA said:
In Australia especially, that's my experience. Moreover being LGBTQ aren't the prerequisites for joining, helping out, etc. There's a march for federal police officers recently, as it helps promote community building and acceptance with often straight cops dealing with members of the LGBTQ community in criminal investigations and damage control. Not merely LGBTQ serving officers.Silvanus said:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1157981237675811&id=148004722006806&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.au%2F&_rdr
Frankly, people are talking out their arse if straight bashing is actually a thing at these types of events. I've seen various pride style parades or likewise in numerous countries and never seen an instance where a straight guy was struck for being straight. For being an arsehole, or starting fights with attendees because of their bigoted garbage? Yeah, in spades.
I disagree. It's "Someone Else is getting attention day".Phasmal said:
OT: I saw it summed up pretty accurately somewhere else. This is like the kid who needs a birthday present on his/her sibling's birthday or she/he'll cry. I'm straight. I don't feel I have faced challenges over my sexuality worthy of any kind of celebration.
More or less what I wanted to say, but in better words.KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
Oh well, I'm off to celebrate the lack of discrimination I have felt and the challenges I haven't faced that comes from being straight.