#HetrosexualPrideDay

[Street Halo]

That people face all sorts of problems is beyond question. That LGBT people face extra, and rather severe ones, simply for being LGBT also should be beyond question.

I'm sorry but in what world does the average cis gendered person not face most of the same or similar negatives of life, because it ain't planet Earth. LGBT have higher suicide rates and possibly drug addiction too but the average straight person (especially male) is far more likely to suffer violence or be murdered. More whites killed by police than blacks. Wanna know where the highest rates of domestic violence are because it involves some girl on girl action?

And before you ask I didn't get this news from Breitbart, I found it on The Guardian, Huff Po and LGBT sites.

This is why the oppression olympics and identity politics are pointless distractions and only create more division than solve actual problems. We've all got issues, we can work together or we can just continue fighting amongst ourselves, competing for the title of "best victim" in a game where there is no prize.

 

[Thaluikhain]

but the average straight person (especially male) is far more likely to suffer violence or be murdered.

Rubbish. For what possible reason would cishet people face more violence that LGBT people?

LGBT people face violence for being LGBT. Cishet people do not face violence for being cishet. Where is this supposed extra violence that cishet people face coming from?

 

[Saelune]

That people face all sorts of problems is beyond question. That LGBT people face extra, and rather severe ones, simply for being LGBT also should be beyond question.

I'm sorry but in what world does the average cis gendered person not face most of the same or similar negatives of life, because it ain't planet Earth. LGBT have higher suicide rates and possibly drug addiction too but the average straight person (especially male) is far more likely to suffer violence or be murdered. More whites killed by police than blacks. Wanna know where the highest rates of domestic violence are because it involves some girl on girl action?

And before you ask I didn't get this news from Breitbart, I found it on The Guardian, Huff Po and LGBT sites.

This is why the oppression olympics and identity politics are pointless distractions and only create more division than solve actual problems. We've all got issues, we can work together or we can just continue fighting amongst ourselves, competing for the title of "best victim" in a game where there is no prize.

We can work together. Its why I try to stem counter-bigotry (which really is just bigotry) when I can. But co-operation requires atleast two people, and responding as you are, it doesn't come off as you wanting to co-operate to stem bigotry.

Yes, everyone faces adversity in one way or another. Infact, I think most everyone can think of a time they were put down for being different and use that to better relate to others who have been discriminated against. Sure, you may be a straight white man, but maybe you are poor, fat, weird looking, weird interests, too short, too tall, different nationality, etc. And maybe if more people thought about that and realized being discriminated sucks no matter who or why, then we could fix a lot of issues. But instead people act selfishly.

You can complain about discriminated people trying to take the negativity and turn it into positivity, or you could just share in it. Not like straight people cant go and enjoy in the festivities of the local gay pride parades or festivals. Have your straight-pride day by being prideful for LGBT allies, both friend and stranger.

That birthday party metaphor used, well, I will use it too. Just because you aren't the birthday child, doesn't mean you cant celebrate too. Everyone can have a goodie bag and some cake, even if the cake doesn't have your name on it.

 

[Street Halo]

Rubbish. For what possible reason would cishet people face more violence that LGBT people?

LGBT people face violence for being LGBT. Cishet people do not face violence for being cishet. Where is this supposed extra violence that cishet people face coming from?

Rubbish? You have google, look it up and prove me wrong! The reasons may be different but bloody and beaten is still assault and dead is still dead.

Reply with more oppression olympics nonsense doe.

 

[Sonmi]

Rubbish. For what possible reason would cishet people face more violence that LGBT people?

LGBT people face violence for being LGBT. Cishet people do not face violence for being cishet. Where is this supposed extra violence that cishet people face coming from?

Rubbish? You have google, look it up and prove me wrong! The reasons may be different but bloody and beaten is still assault and dead is still dead.

Reply with more oppression olympics nonsense doe.

While I'm sure we heterosexuals are victim to more violence in sheer numbers, I highly doubt we're worse off proportionally, man.

After all, pretty much all the reasons a straight man could get his shit kicked in applies to an hypothetical gay man as well, while the gay man could be beaten up for his sexual orientation and it's very unlikely that a straight man ever would.

 

[Street Halo]

Its why I try to stem counter-bigotry (which really is just bigotry) when I can. But co-operation requires atleast two people, and responding as you are, it doesn't come off as you wanting to co-operate to stem bigotry.

Then technically we're on the same side but where you find more issue with "counter-bigotry", I'd rather stem pointless division to solve the issues. I'm not into hate for the sake of hate, I'm part Koori (Australian Aboriginal) and I have 2 LGBT family members so no homophobia on my watch but I'm not out to blame those evil white cis genders for systems created and ruled over by a very small few.

I guarantee they're laughing all the way to the bank at the peasantry and our infighting shit.

 

[Parasondox]

You know what? I think this will be the last thread I make for a very very very long time. I was going to make a topic about make up in the workplace and whether women should wear them and links to a meeting MPs had yesterday buuuuuuuuuut no. A joke make people angry, a simple discussion, I dunno what that will bring.

 

[Saelune]

Its why I try to stem counter-bigotry (which really is just bigotry) when I can. But co-operation requires atleast two people, and responding as you are, it doesn't come off as you wanting to co-operate to stem bigotry.

Then technically we're on the same side but where you find more issue with "counter-bigotry", I'd rather stem pointless division to solve the issues. I'm not into hate for the sake of hate, I'm part Koori (Australian Aboriginal) and I have 2 LGBT family members so no homophobia on my watch but I'm not out to blame those evil white cis genders for systems created and ruled over by a very small few.

I guarantee they're laughing all the way to the bank at the peasantry and their infighting shit.

Nor am I trying to blame all straight white men for the evils of a few straight white...usually rich men, many of which lived and died hundreds or more years ago. Ive been called out for supposedly overly defending my oppressors, when really I am defending those who despite their privileges, (and merely being US born is a major privilege I am glad to have mind you) realize some groups of people get the short end of the stick, even in countries like the US or England.

I also think complaining over Gay Pride or Black History month or things like that is a waste of time and misses the point of why we have them.

Too many people are overly offended, but just as many people are under offended. Its really about being the right amount of offended at the appropriate time, and using that atleast somewhat productively and not turning into a raving lunatic. And its sometimes too easy to become that raving lunatic (I say from experience).

 

[Street Halo]

While I'm sure we heterosexuals are victim to more violence in sheer numbers, I highly doubt we're worse off proportionally, man.

After all, pretty much all the reasons a straight man could get his shit kicked in applies to an hypothetical gay man as well, while the gay man could be beaten up for his sexual orientation and it's very unlikely that a straight man ever would.

That's arguing apples and oranges though. Hard numbers on percentage of LGBT identifying people varies too much but looking at rough numbers, cis gendered people are still far more likely percentage wise to be murdered and it's hard to imagine assault is much different. Either way people are still getting fucked up for stupid reasons and all this identity nonsense does is create division imo.

Look at this Heterosexual pride day nonsense, it's purely reactionary but when the average Joe is being blamed for running/supporting systems they have no real control over, is it surprising? Shit like this didn't happen 10 years ago but with the oppression olympics came the reactionaries.

It's all pointless infighting from where I'm standing.

 

[Sonmi]

While I'm sure we heterosexuals are victim to more violence in sheer numbers, I highly doubt we're worse off proportionally, man.

After all, pretty much all the reasons a straight man could get his shit kicked in applies to an hypothetical gay man as well, while the gay man could be beaten up for his sexual orientation and it's very unlikely that a straight man ever would.

That's arguing apples and oranges though. Hard numbers on percentage of LGBT identifying people varies too much but looking at rough numbers, cis gendered people are still far more likely percentage wise to be murdered and it's hard to imagine assault is much different. Either way people are still getting fucked up for stupid reasons and all this identity nonsense does is create division imo.

Look at this Heterosexual pride day nonsense, it's purely reactionary but when the average Joe is being blamed for running/supporting systems they have no real control over, is it surprising? Shit like this didn't happen 10 years ago but with the oppression olympics came the reactionaries.

It's all pointless infighting from where I'm standing.

You're misinterpreting the statistics, man.

Murdered people are more likely to be straight, but that's in sheer numbers, proportionally, it's considerably more dangerous to be gay/queer/trans/whatever.

I do admit that the in-fighting is stupid though. Be and let be, if people are acting like idiots without directly harming anyone, let them.

 

[ThatOtherGirl]

IIRC, being gay is not a choice, right? Then, it is an inborn quality. Thus, there's as much to be proud of being gay, as it is of being straight. So I don't see anything funny in this.

Well I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding by most non lgbt people what pride day is about. Most lgbt people understand this only on an internal level too, which is why people rarely explain it very well. There is nothing wrong with being proud of being gay. There is nothing wrong with being proud of being straight. In this sense there is no difference.

The difference is historical. LGBT people have, historically, been discriminated against. We have been told we are evil, perverted, disgusting, etc. We are frequently discriminated against even now. People stare, our families desert us. Many of us deal with internalized homophobia or transphobia from years and years of bombardment by these sorts of messages. We have been stripped of pride and dignity both externally and internally.

This is why lgbt pride day is so important to us, why we as a community make it happen. It just as easily could be called lgbt dignity day, or lgbt validation day. But pride sounds better. Pride day is when we stand up and say that we will not allow ourselves to be stripped of dignity and pride in ourselves and our identities no matter the price. Not on this day. Pride day is when we remind ourselves that we are not disgusting or evil or perverted, and we take pride in the fact that we are who we are. Pride day is when we build back up our identities as valid and real, for all the world to see and for ourselves to see.

Lgbt Pride day was established because it was necessary for us to retake the dignity that had been stripped from us for so long.

Heterosexual pride day, on the other hand, was established because a bunch of straight people saw lgbt pride day and said "Us too!". And, like, that's fine. It is totally fine for straight people to have pride in their identity as well. Happiness and validation for everyone!

But it will never be the same thing. It literally cannot, because heterosexual people never went through the same type of discrimination, destruction of their personal identities, and loss of basic dignity. To many in the lgbt community, who have fought so hard for so long and suffered so much for the right to those things, it can seem childish, even mocking of what lgbt people have gone through, for heterosexual people to try to co-opt the trappings of our day of dignity.

 

[kurokotetsu]

Straight Pride is so last year, call me when I can openly take pride in my disgusting fetishes.

I hope this catches on. I want a sexual deviance pride day where we can all have wild kinky sex in the streets. That would be a parade that everyone would attend.

Well, you guys should be aware that there exists the International Fetish Day [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fetish_Day] celebrated the third Friday of the year. There is also in Spanish speaking countries July the 24th, 24/7, which is a expresion used for BDSM relationships are all day long all the day.

And dispite it might be seen as a joke, it might be important in the same snese Gay Pride is, because for example, that Britih MP was shamed for showing support or being "sexually deviant" and had to retract. And that suck becuase we are who we are and fetishes are as old as humanity (and a lot of us know we were born this way). So tehre is that.

And I add my voice that while it might be a joke, it ws a tad distateful and ignoratnon what gay Pride is. I is awesome being heterosexual (and it is awesome being GSM) but we don't suffer discrimination for our preference. And yes, I'm a white, cis straight dude 8so straight My submissive makes a bit of fun of me, because she is bi and as she puts it "I don't have a drop of homosexual inme"). It was a bad taste joke spcially because I see some poeple that actually support the idea without considering the context or possible repercussions.

 

[Street Halo]

You're misinterpreting the statistics, man.

Murdered people are more likely to be straight, but that's in sheer numbers, proportionally, it's considerably more dangerous to be gay/queer/trans/whatever.

I do admit that the in-fighting is stupid though. Be and let be, if people are acting like idiots without directly harming anyone, let them.

Part of me wants cold, hard numbers so I can go "See? SEE?!?1!" but they're too rough and in the end it'd be playing the olympics from the other side. Just can't stand the infighting and all the apathetic or outright opposition identity politics is creating.

 

[Street Halo]

Straight Pride is so last year, call me when I can openly take pride in my disgusting fetishes.

I hope this catches on. I want a sexual deviance pride day where we can all have wild kinky sex in the streets. That would be a parade that everyone would attend.

Well, you guys should be aware that there exists the International Fetish Day [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fetish_Day] celebrated the third Friday of the year. There is also in Spanish speaking countries July the 24th, 24/7, which is a expresion used for BDSM relationships are all day long all the day.

And dispite it might be seen as a joke, it might be important in the same snese Gay Pride is, because for example, that Britih MP was shamed for showing support or being "sexually deviant" and had to retract. And that suck becuase we are who we are and fetishes are as old as humanity (and a lot of us know we were born this way). So tehre is that.

And I add my voice that while it might be a joke, it ws a tad distateful and ignoratnon what gay Pride is. I is awesome being heterosexual (and it is awesome being GSM) but we don't suffer discrimination for our preference. And yes, I'm a white, cis straight dude 8so straight My submissive makes a bit of fun of me, because she is bi and as she puts it "I don't have a drop of homosexual inme"). It was a bad taste joke spcially because I see some poeple that actually support the idea without considering the context or possible repercussions.

lol Are you guys getting the Asian dating site ads or is it just me? I haven't looked up asian porn in weeks but google never forgets.

 

[Silvanus]

That's arguing apples and oranges though. Hard numbers on percentage of LGBT identifying people varies too much but looking at rough numbers, cis gendered people are still far more likely percentage wise to be murdered and it's hard to imagine assault is much different.

No, that's simply not true. Transphobic hate crime is common;

http://hrc-assets.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com//files/assets/resources/HRC-AntiTransgenderViolence-0519.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/13/transgender-homicide-victims-us-has-hit-historic-high
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/26/transphobic-transgender-hate-crime-rise-uk-police-figures

The HRC [http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/Hatecrimesandviolenceagainstlgbtpeople_2009.pdf] reports that Transgender people are disproportionately likely to suffer hate crime, even in statistical comparison with other LGBT demographics. Lombardi [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11991568] reported that of his sample, 50% had experienced harassment or violence. That's significantly higher than the likelihood experienced by cisgendered people.

So, by all statistical and research points of view, somebody who is trans is at a higher risk of harassment, violence and murder.

Either way people are still getting fucked up for stupid reasons and all this identity nonsense does is create division imo.

Frankly, the causes of violence have to be identified if they are to be combated and prevented. You cannot prevent violence if you do not know why, where, and to whom it is happening. Demography is intensely important.

 

[RaikuFA]

Wait, why tell people that are trying to be on the LGBT community's side to pretty much fuck off just because they're straight? Kinda counterproductive.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

I saw the hashtag. The only people who were using it were the people whining about it being a thing, and people who where laughing at the whiners.

 

[CaitSeith]

Congratulations! You just beat PsychicTaco on making the best absurd posts out of nothing. What are you going to do now?

*passes the mic to Parasondox*

 

[Silvanus]

Wait, why tell people that are trying to be on the LGBT community's side to pretty much fuck off just because they're straight? Kinda counterproductive.

Has anybody actually done that? I'm not seeing it anywhere.

 

[Parasondox]

Congratulations! You just beat PsychicTaco on making the best absurd posts out of nothing. What are you going to do now?

*passes the mic to Parasondox*

*Speaks into mic*

I am officially announcing my retire from the game of threads. I like to thank, my fans, family, PsychicTaco, hoping he doesn't get deported if Trump comes into power, and all y'all are the real MVP.

I REGRET NOTHING!!