Hideo Kojima Believes Consoles are Dying

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I've always seen Hideo Kojima as a visionary (my avatar is the logo of his production company)but I do believe that he is wrong on this one. Consoles will continue to be the future of gaming for years to come. I look forward to the day that we can all play games the way that he says they'll be played, but that won't happen any time soon.
 

cobrausn

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Don't really see it happening. Not until we break the lightspeed barrier on network communications anyway, then... well, you'll have other things to worry about.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-160112.html
 

HarmanSmith

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Kojima's future is directing big-budget films, judging by the amount of cutscenes in MGS4. I take this statement as his letter of resignation.
 

Frequen-Z

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There, Hideo has finally earned himself a place next to Peter Molyneux and John Romero as developers who know fuck all about gaming and gamers.
 

elvor0

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How about you bring MGS4 to Xbox360 or PC then Kojima, hmm, hmm? Then we'll speak platformless.
 

Dexiro

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Cloud gaming is all good for the developers, but the fact is we like to OWN our games.

I don't want to rely on some overworked server and my crappy internet to provide every one of my games, and there's no way i'm paying subscription to access them!
 

Psychophante

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Kojima needs to crawl out his own arse for a while. Some of the Metal Gear games are awesome, but he's an idiot.
 

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I'd like cloud gaming if it were a simple rental service. Tag a few games for rental this month, pay a fee for those titles and no other costs. If that's all the industry were attempting to push I think it would be a roaring success.

Onlives proposed system is a sick joke; pay an account fee then pay rental or buying game fee on top of that.

why should I 'buy' anything that I have no control over and can be taken away at the drop of a hat (or server). And as for a monthly fee, what the f**k for? so you can store the 1 or 2 Mb or data my account makes up?
 

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It will definitively happen at some point, but I think he's being too optmistic (or pessimistic?) about this. I doubt it'll happen before anyone on this thread is old enough to curse at these new technologies, because back when we were young we needed to hook up the videogamajig to the video card uphill both ways or it would red ring of death. Now get out of my lawn!
 

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Generic_Dave said:
Hhhmmm...Hideo...I think maybe I like to own my games, and not pay a sub...

I predict smaller consoles (nearly portable ones that can be easily transported in a backpack or something) with a HUGE hard-drive!!!! Even the 250GB PS3 / 360 is too small for proper downloadable purchasing. 1 to 5 TB at the mo, but rising exponentially as games get bigger.

Eventually they'll die off, but probably not until the entire world is incredibly wired up and EVERYTHING interacts with each other and all things are compatible.
Well you can buy a terabyte drive for your PS3 if you want to thanks to Western Digital. Anyway make sure you won't ever have to buy one of those. That OnLive idea is horribly horribly bad for us consumers in the long run. Disgusting really :/
 

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WickedSkin said:
Well you can buy a terabyte drive for your PS3 if you want to thanks to Western Digital. Anyway make sure you won't ever have to buy one of those. That OnLive idea is horribly horribly bad for us consumers in the long run. Disgusting really :/
REALLY? I though the whole FAT32 thing stopped you being able to get really big HD's in the PS3? I really need one of these!
 

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Honestly that does seem like a logic direction for software to take. I don't believe we'll really see it phase out consoles for at least another ten or twenty years though.
 

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Consoles as we know them, maybe, but I think people will always want specilised gaming devices.
 

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Onlive sounds like a convenient gimmick to me and I don't doubt that it will find its place in the market, but I don't think Kojima is right in his absolute extinction vision. Gaming is and always will be a living room pastime. The non portability of the cutting edge gaming hardware does not seem to bother gamers all that much. Consoles will be around for as long as people go home after work and need something to have fun with. Also, he seems to be forgetting that not the whole world is like Japan. Reliable no-limit broadband internet with a top response time is a luxury for many Western countries, let alone more underdeveloped ones, and ignoring those markets equals an instant massive dive in profit. When will 60-70% of the world's population have access to cheap 100mb connections at 20ms in a 2000 mile range? Certainly not in the "near" future, unless he is claiming that making gaming a hobby for the elite even more than it is now is the way forward, which is pretty insane and clueless in my opinion.
 

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Does anyone care what he has to say? Really? Especially from a man who doesn't even make games anymore. He makes movies with interactive scenes peppered in.
 

TOGSolid

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laryri said:
You guys have to consider that in Japan, this doesn't seem as far-fetched a claim. The handheld gaming market is much larger than the console market.
It also helps that Japan's broadband network is vastly superior to ours. Connectivity over there is much, much better. The US is quickly turning into the red-headed stepchild of the internet thanks to the assholes at Comcast, Time Warner and the other big name ISPs maintaining a stranglehold on development. All they want to do is jack up prices while avoiding upgrading their networks.
 

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I feel weird assuming I'm right about something to do with gaming if Hideo Kojima says otherwise (being heavily involved in the industry and whatnot) but I don't think this will kick in all that quickly. I don't believe Sony and Microsoft are going to let their console lines go that easily, I don't think consumers will jump at it that quickly either. I wonder if maybe this is because the gaming industry or at least "atmosphere" is shifting in Japan, cause I don't see that at all in north america.