Hindus Ask PAX To Drop Smite

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kortin

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Oh god, oh god this is hilarious. "Please don't use our Gods in your game, it hurts our feelings :("

If they think that people give a damn about their religion, they're in for a big surprise. XD
 

Woodsey

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Sleekit said:
The Plunk said:
I trust the Penny Arcade guys to stand up to these enemies of free speech.
still no characters from the Abrahamic religions i see.

why is that exactly ?..

oh yes...they are shitebags.

still /golfcalp in the name of "freedom of speech" eh ?..

especially when its quite clear they won't actually dare offend anyone who might actually be able to mess with them in return.

cowards.
Their job is not to include all the religions you've taken up a personal beef with. You might have noticed that Hindu deities are rather interesting looking, whilst anyone important in Christianity, Judaism and Islam is a bloke with a beard. So yeah, no shit they're not included.
 

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Woodsey said:
Their job is not to include all the religions you've taken up a personal beef with. You might have noticed that Hindu deities are rather interesting looking, whilst anyone important in Christianity, Judaism and Islam is a bloke with a beard. So yeah, no shit they're not included.
This is exactly why I have no interest in those religions being included. They're all people with a beard, a robe, and a staff. That's boring.
 

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kortin said:
Woodsey said:
Their job is not to include all the religions you've taken up a personal beef with. You might have noticed that Hindu deities are rather interesting looking, whilst anyone important in Christianity, Judaism and Islam is a bloke with a beard. So yeah, no shit they're not included.
This is exactly why I have no interest in those religions being included. They're all people with a beard, a robe, and a staff. That's boring.
Arguably, but the Greek and Norse gods are certainly more exotic then Jesus. All the other religions included seem to be ones with pantheons of gods, as well.
 

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They're offended? So what. It's a game. Are they trying to accurately depict your magical being that has no proof of existance? No? Then cry harder, because this is the real world, and those characters have every right to be in this game because not only are they fictional, they're also not owned by anyone, so it's not a problem. Disagreeing with their right to put them in the game just makes you scum who wants to keep speech limited to what you want the ignorant to hear. Sounds familiar... oh yeah:
Andy Chalk said:
"Videogame makers should be more sensitive while handling faith related subjects, as these games left lasting impact on the minds of highly impressionable children, teens and other young people."
...and how is religion different? Have fun teaching young people to continue to be closed minded believers of something whose existance in stted in a book that is in no way different than a fairy tale so they act the way you want them to.
 

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Woodsey said:
Arguably, but the Greek and Norse gods are certainly more exotic then Jesus. All the other religions included seem to be ones with pantheons of gods, as well.
All of the Norse and Greek gods also have a theme. Thor has thunder and his hammer. Ares is a paragon of War. The theme with Jesus is "hey, I'm the son of god...yeah, I got a robe and shit". I just can't see that as interesting.
 

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kortin said:
Woodsey said:
Arguably, but the Greek and Norse gods are certainly more exotic then Jesus. All the other religions included seem to be ones with pantheons of gods, as well.
All of the Norse and Greek gods also have a theme. Thor has thunder and his hammer. Ares is a paragon of War. The theme with Jesus is "hey, I'm the son of god...yeah, I got a robe and shit". I just can't see that as interesting.
Had a brain-malfunction, thought you said 'That's why the other religions included don't interest me', might be why my reply looks a little weird.
 

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To be fair to the Hindi's, they the only modern major religion who have deities in Smite, not sure if the asian ones are still worshipped, but for the love of god (no pun intended) just get over it, people stopped taking Kali seriously when Indianna Jones: Temple of Doom came out.
 

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Far more likely is that we'll end up with PAX apparel covered in images of Kali sporting four dicks instead of four arms.
do iiiittt, do iiittt, doo ittt

>_>
 

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Sleekit said:
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people stopped taking Kali seriously when Indianna Jones: Temple of Doom came out.
that a hell of a claim to make given its the worlds third largest religion after Christianity and Islam and has over a billion practitioners.
I was joking, I wasn't saying Hindu's were a minority or anything, just pointing out that this isn't really the first time Hindu gods have been portrayed stupidly in games or films.
 

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What they really need to do is balance the books.

Make Jesus a playable character.

Not quite sure how that would work given his philosophy, but they should make it work.

As a Christian myself, I would love to see that and imagine The Man would get a kick out of it.
 

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They have the right to free speech and protest, just as the developers have the right to free expression and making the game the way they want.

Now if it were full of religious hate speech against Kali and her followers/believers then I would see a problem. But from what I have seen, they are not painting her in a negative light, if anything, this is the character I want to have a go at playing.
 

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It's all fun and games til it's your own faith being portrayed by an outsider. People need to focus more on themselves within their faiths and less on whether anyone else respects them. Hell, I'm a Christian, I know none of you respect that. And I don't care, I'm here to talk games and nerdy crap.
 

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Agow95 said:
Sleekit said:
Agow95 said:
people stopped taking Kali seriously when Indianna Jones: Temple of Doom came out.
that a hell of a claim to make given its the worlds third largest religion after Christianity and Islam and has over a billion practitioners.
I was joking, I wasn't saying Hindu's were a minority or anything, just pointing out that this isn't really the first time Hindu gods have been portrayed stupidly in games or films.
Indeed. You can sacrifice maidens to Kali in spelunky (or pugs in the XBLA version). And Shiva has been a standard summon in just about every final fantasy game I can think of. To my knowledge they haven't provoked the same outrage.

I guess I can see the Hindu point of view on this one, though I certainly don't think the game should be shut down. Imagine if it wasn't a religious figure, but a very revered historical one, like Martin Luther King Jr. Having a mainstream game where he fights, kills, and gets killed by Rosa Parks or Mother Theresa would be in poor taste. It makes sense that if someone truly believes in a religion they would feel the same way about their gods.
 

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beefpelican said:
Agow95 said:
Sleekit said:
Agow95 said:
people stopped taking Kali seriously when Indianna Jones: Temple of Doom came out.
that a hell of a claim to make given its the worlds third largest religion after Christianity and Islam and has over a billion practitioners.
I was joking, I wasn't saying Hindu's were a minority or anything, just pointing out that this isn't really the first time Hindu gods have been portrayed stupidly in games or films.
Indeed. You can sacrifice maidens to Kali in spelunky (or pugs in the XBLA version). And Shiva has been a standard summon in just about every final fantasy game I can think of. To my knowledge they haven't provoked the same outrage.

I guess I can see the Hindu point of view on this one, though I certainly don't think the game should be shut down. Imagine if it wasn't a religious figure, but a very revered historical one, like Martin Luther King Jr. Having a mainstream game where he fights, kills, and gets killed by Rosa Parks or Mother Theresa would be in poor taste. It makes sense that if someone truly believes in a religion they would feel the same way about their gods.
That game you just described? I would buy that. It sounds hilarious. Also reminds me of Gandhi in the civilization games. His AI is bloodthirsty in those.
 

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The Plunk said:
I trust the Penny Arcade guys to stand up to these enemies of free speech.
To be fair, Hi-Rez are being dickheads. I mean, just look at Kali. That's just being a dickhead.

Edit: And the Hindus aren't opposing Free Speech. They're expressing THEIR right to THEIR free speech to say they don't like what Hi-Rez are doing and are politely asking conventions to not support the game. It works both way. Shocking, I'm sure.
 

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Nieroshai said:
It's all fun and games til it's your own faith being portrayed by an outsider. People need to focus more on themselves within their faiths and less on whether anyone else respects them. Hell, I'm a Christian, I know none of you respect that. And I don't care, I'm here to talk games and nerdy crap.
I respect that, I'm a Christian too.

I feel that people need to learn to not push their beliefs into everything. Hinduism is the 3rd largest religion in the world, it makes sense that people would draw inspiration for it.
 

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well, anyone else think Moviebob going do a big picture epiosde on this, or a game overthinker one? Anyone?