Yes, go to PAX for support. This couldn't possibly backfire in your faces. I'm just surprised these people are aware enough of the convention's existence to request the game to be kept out, but aren't knowledgeable enough about the people running it to know that's a bad idea. Ah well, whatever.
Hindus Ask PAX To Drop Smite
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I think the reason that there are no characters from Abrahamic religion is that the both Allah and Jahweh are so undefined. We don't know what they are, we don't know where they are, we don't know what they look like, wedon't know where they came from, we really know nothing about them. It's not like with Zeus or Shiva or Kali, where we do have a reasonably defined look and personality.Sleekit said:
The question here is "Will PAX actually drop Smite because of this?"
The answer... they s'might.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAokay that sounded better in my head.
Seriously though, it's not like they started an angry protest against PAX, they're just politely asking for them to not include it. They'll probably include it anyway, but that's no reason to use this as a reason to hate all religions or anything.
The answer... they s'might.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAokay that sounded better in my head.
Seriously though, it's not like they started an angry protest against PAX, they're just politely asking for them to not include it. They'll probably include it anyway, but that's no reason to use this as a reason to hate all religions or anything.
Who does Rajan Zed think he is? How dare he speak for gods and convey their "wishes"? Vishnu and friends are presumably adults and can fight their own fights and voice their own discontent.
If the Hindu gods disprove they can go to PAX and make an appeal in person.Or they could just slaughter everybody on the premises, that would get the message through.
If the Hindu gods disprove they can go to PAX and make an appeal in person.Or they could just slaughter everybody on the premises, that would get the message through.
I think the main reason that they might be offended is the fact that the gods of their very much alive and practiced religion is coupled up the gods of old, dead mythologies rather than actual modern day religions
list taken from their website:
Current List of Gods
Greek: Zeus, Hades, Arachne, Artemis
Norse: Odin, Ymir, Hel,
Chinese: Sun WuKong, He Bo, Ao Kuang
Eyptian: Anubis, Ra, Bastet, Sobek
Hindu: Kali, Vamana, Agni
http://hi-rez.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/459/~/smite-closed-beta-frequently-asked-questions
that is dangerously close to actually imply that their religion is actually just a mythology while Christianity, Islam and Judaism are real religions (they all have a god that have been depicted in several ways, and plenty of deity-like characters like the devil, demons and angels that could be well implemented but aren't)
I know they aren't actually saying that, but the implications are there.
just sayin'
list taken from their website:
Current List of Gods
Greek: Zeus, Hades, Arachne, Artemis
Norse: Odin, Ymir, Hel,
Chinese: Sun WuKong, He Bo, Ao Kuang
Eyptian: Anubis, Ra, Bastet, Sobek
Hindu: Kali, Vamana, Agni
http://hi-rez.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/459/~/smite-closed-beta-frequently-asked-questions
that is dangerously close to actually imply that their religion is actually just a mythology while Christianity, Islam and Judaism are real religions (they all have a god that have been depicted in several ways, and plenty of deity-like characters like the devil, demons and angels that could be well implemented but aren't)
I know they aren't actually saying that, but the implications are there.
just sayin'
I this still an thing? What the hell.
Ey. If I can take Jesus being a recuring character in South Park, thee guys can take Kali being in a game. Just saying.
Ey. If I can take Jesus being a recuring character in South Park, thee guys can take Kali being in a game. Just saying.
Oh, what a shame, your god is a in a game and is a character beating other gods up. I'm sure if I looked hard enough I could find at least one game that essentially says my whole church is a corrupt evil empire and my god is either fictional, dead, and/or evil. Cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.
Anyways, I support there trying to follow their ideals but I don't think they are going to get anywhere. Gamers don't give a shit.
Anyways, I support there trying to follow their ideals but I don't think they are going to get anywhere. Gamers don't give a shit.
An organization is nothing more than "Lots and lots of individuals", so you just contradicted yourself here. And people are allowed to have a say in what is or isn't approved for kickstarter? If you don't like it, don't fund it! It's not like anyone other than those interested in the product being developed are paying for anything. Kickstarter's just a communication medium and safety net for investors.Sleekit said:
up+b is his special attack and he can regain all his health that he may have lost.samahain said:
As a Christian, I wouldd buy that DLC
I explained my position before [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.383274-Smite-Dev-Removes-Offensive-Goddess-From-Website?page=2#15157026], when the Universal Society of Hinduism was still negotiating, I guess. My position hasn't changed: This still seems more like a stink to put the USH on the map, and not really a gross offense to all Hindus everywhere.
False inclusion is a common tactic of extremist religious groups, and a common presumption of journalists who report on them: a radical Christian group denounces women's access to reproductive services and it's reported as if that group represents all of Christendom.[footnote]This is to say that when a Christian group states their position, say, implying that all Christians accept young-Earth creationism and reject evolutionary biology, it's a good thing to stand up for your church and state that those radicals over there don't speak for your denomination. Otherwise, we secularists start to wonder if Christians are just a generally cuckoo lot.[/footnote] Likewise, the USH is a small organization who's just been loud on this one issue, and to the detriment of the Hindu people at large.
It is notable that Hellenists were offended when Disney's hijacked-by-Jesus movie Hercules was released. And no one cared. It was even marketed in Greece so as to maximize offense.
If I were running a church, and my god was being improperly depicted in a game, I'd help the developers get it right. Is Kali really a blood drinking vampiress? I gathered she was more about destruction of the old in anticipation of renewal. But I'm not up on my Hindu mythology.
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False inclusion is a common tactic of extremist religious groups, and a common presumption of journalists who report on them: a radical Christian group denounces women's access to reproductive services and it's reported as if that group represents all of Christendom.[footnote]This is to say that when a Christian group states their position, say, implying that all Christians accept young-Earth creationism and reject evolutionary biology, it's a good thing to stand up for your church and state that those radicals over there don't speak for your denomination. Otherwise, we secularists start to wonder if Christians are just a generally cuckoo lot.[/footnote] Likewise, the USH is a small organization who's just been loud on this one issue, and to the detriment of the Hindu people at large.
It is notable that Hellenists were offended when Disney's hijacked-by-Jesus movie Hercules was released. And no one cared. It was even marketed in Greece so as to maximize offense.
If I were running a church, and my god was being improperly depicted in a game, I'd help the developers get it right. Is Kali really a blood drinking vampiress? I gathered she was more about destruction of the old in anticipation of renewal. But I'm not up on my Hindu mythology.
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I get the concerns these guys have, but... honestly, it is far too late to be complaining on the eve of the event. I have no doubt that it would be extraordinarily expensive to pull SMITE right now even if the Penny Arcade guys actually wanted to. They probably don't even have time to move the booth out of the room now.