Hip-Hop and Rap: What are your thoughts?
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I love a lot of it (as with pretty much any genre of music), especially much of the material that comes from Anticon records.
I reckon the more the genres the better. I've heard some great rap songs but nothing really powerful from the genre yet, close but not quite. Unfortunately, I do understand people when they say "it's all about gangsters and drugs", even I've been sick of it a few times but as long as the melody is good I'm pretty open to it.
I was raised by 2pac, Eminem, The Roots, Hilltop Hoods, Will Smith and Outkast. They have a lot to offer so if you haven't heard them yet then I strongly recommend you check 'em out.
I was raised by 2pac, Eminem, The Roots, Hilltop Hoods, Will Smith and Outkast. They have a lot to offer so if you haven't heard them yet then I strongly recommend you check 'em out.
You know, I've done the math, and to buy their whole collection would only cost about $60-$75 dollars. I forget the exact amount, but rest assured that it's all completely worth it.hotacidbath said:
Gorillaz, as a virtual group, are really good for getting out the names of underground rap artists by featuring them. Case in point: Dirty Harry.redlueliger said:
I tend to gravitate more toward rock and metal from the 1970's and 1980's. I've just never really been very fond of rap or hip hop. I've never really liked the vocal delivery or the instrumentals (or lack thereof, in many cases). While I do acknowledge that it'd be unfair of me to put down the entire genre as a whole, I also have to admit that I've never heard an example that I actually liked (including those posted in this topic). I guess it's just not really my taste.
Although, admittedly, I think I might just have a problem with newer music in general... and rap/hiphop being a young genre is just sort of caught in the middle. I just feel like the overall quality of music has been steadily going downhill. A lot of it seems to be churned out specifically for commercial success, rather than artistic vision. When I listen to something like Boston's first (self-titled) album, I can actually pick up on the heart and soul that they put into their music. I really just don't get that vibe from anything I've heard from the past few years. I dunno. /shrug.
One thing I will say though... something that I do admit irritates me with rap and hiphop... I HATE sampling. I hate it when they take the instrumentals from an older song, remix them slightly, then use them without giving the original artist any sort of credit or recognition. That really grinds my gears.
Although, admittedly, I think I might just have a problem with newer music in general... and rap/hiphop being a young genre is just sort of caught in the middle. I just feel like the overall quality of music has been steadily going downhill. A lot of it seems to be churned out specifically for commercial success, rather than artistic vision. When I listen to something like Boston's first (self-titled) album, I can actually pick up on the heart and soul that they put into their music. I really just don't get that vibe from anything I've heard from the past few years. I dunno. /shrug.
One thing I will say though... something that I do admit irritates me with rap and hiphop... I HATE sampling. I hate it when they take the instrumentals from an older song, remix them slightly, then use them without giving the original artist any sort of credit or recognition. That really grinds my gears.
In general, the popular elements of the rap/hip-hop genres tend to be things I actively dislike. There are a few gems that I love, though--Adult Swim has many free music albums, and I absolutely love African Swim, which is all artists from the Soweto district of Johannesburg. I also oddly like B.o.B, not sure why I like his stuff when I don't like so much other rap/hip-hop.
My big thing in music, though, is melody and progression. It just seems like a lot of rap that I get exposed to, with some exceptions, has literally no melody and is the rapper talking over some looped 3 or 4 second long sample of bass drums to make a pounding rhythm with no actual melody to it. But then again, plenty of people see the music that I listen to as "useless noise" and "painful on the ears" and "too long" (usually the last of those).
My big thing in music, though, is melody and progression. It just seems like a lot of rap that I get exposed to, with some exceptions, has literally no melody and is the rapper talking over some looped 3 or 4 second long sample of bass drums to make a pounding rhythm with no actual melody to it. But then again, plenty of people see the music that I listen to as "useless noise" and "painful on the ears" and "too long" (usually the last of those).
Unfortunately I don't have the funds to buy the entire collection, but do you have any particular albums to recommend? And my brother lives in Minneapolis so learning that a lot of great artists are based in that area makes me a little mad that he never shared with me. So selfish.lwm3398 said:
The Atmosphere stuff is, I mean.redlueliger said:Actually, it's way more than worth it.lwm3398 said:
Like all genres, there is good and bad. IMO, 80's rap (EPMD, BDP, Public Enemy, KRS-1, Eric B and Rakim, etc.) was amazing, then there was a bit of a lull in quality with the ultra-mysogynistic lyrics of the 90's, then hip-hop started to become more of an influence and the lyrics became a bit trite in the 00's, the beats taking precedence.
Now, it's all in what you want to listen to. Most of the songs that make it on the radio are just like most of the songs in any genre that make it on the radio; catering to the masses. But there is still great stuff being made, and whether someone is a fan or not is only determined by their ability to open their mind and close down the ignorant hatred.
Now, it's all in what you want to listen to. Most of the songs that make it on the radio are just like most of the songs in any genre that make it on the radio; catering to the masses. But there is still great stuff being made, and whether someone is a fan or not is only determined by their ability to open their mind and close down the ignorant hatred.
you seem to think that nu-metal and death metal are the same thing. in fact, you seem to classify all metal as the same. as for me, ive listened to a lot of rap and hip hop. ive never had a choice when i wasnt the one driving. i also applaud you for becoming a hypocrite. you obviously have no respect for music theory.webby said:
what i listen to is none of your business. and i simply speak of the "yo dog" and the shortened words. i do not understand that bullshit. it just makes you look ignorant in my eyes.ProfessorLayton said:
so you LIKE shooting people? initiating violence simply because of a color you wear? or an affiliation with a certain group? gangs were made so that people in the ghetto could survive. not so you could join up and act like an ass hat because some guy pissed you off. then you get your gang to help you. they get THEIR gang to help them. then a lot of innocent people get caught in the cross fire. IE: children.SageRuffin said:
I cant hold myself responsible for how enraged I am about to become....
Being a teenager, 95% of all music I come across is Hip-Hop and Rap, and personally I CANT STAND IT! Every song is about the same topic, with the "artist" and a rythmic beat holding the entire song together. You don't hear about how the drummer for a band is good, or how the keyboard player has an awesome solo, because if by an off chance they ARE in the band, they do next to nothing. I view Rap and Hip-Hop as a big fashion contest, everyone is doing the same thing, and listeners just listen and go on about how much cooler their favorite artist is than everyone elses. I understand that there are alternative kinds, parodies, and atmospheric kinds of this genre, but the mainstream just sucks (in highschool).
Apologies for the rage
- Obviously a Classic Rock Fan
Being a teenager, 95% of all music I come across is Hip-Hop and Rap, and personally I CANT STAND IT! Every song is about the same topic, with the "artist" and a rythmic beat holding the entire song together. You don't hear about how the drummer for a band is good, or how the keyboard player has an awesome solo, because if by an off chance they ARE in the band, they do next to nothing. I view Rap and Hip-Hop as a big fashion contest, everyone is doing the same thing, and listeners just listen and go on about how much cooler their favorite artist is than everyone elses. I understand that there are alternative kinds, parodies, and atmospheric kinds of this genre, but the mainstream just sucks (in highschool).
Apologies for the rage
- Obviously a Classic Rock Fan