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[D.C.]

Heres a new question what was the biggest (contiguous) Empire in History?

Population or land mass?

The mongol empire.

Yup the biggest contiguos empire... how about non-contiguous?

Britain?

Yup 1/4 of the world... makes me proud to be British..... sometimes.

Actually there is a BIG difference between an empire and a colonial empire,as the most advanced and large empire was the roman empire,since all the population was romanised and answered to one government. A colonial empire is basically 50 men with guns saying they control a continent, and shooting the indigent people. In the roman empire they had legions and police in every area they controlled,same with the Ottoman empire,in the 18th century (ish) europeans went around the world proclaiming someone elses teritory as their own,thats colonialism,but yeah the British colonial empire were the largest in the world

I'm not going to disagree that there is a difference between an "empire" Empire and a "colonial" Empire, you are right. But a Colonial Empire is still technically an Empire.

But your policing point reminded me of another great fact/myth of The Mongolian Empire.

It was said (during the time of Genghis Khan) that in the Mongolian Empire a person could walk the entire length of the Empire (From the Caspian sea to Korea) with a plate of Gold on their head with no protection without the fear of being robbed.

Whether this is true or not its not sure no-one tested it out as far as i'm aware of. But it's a funny fact that an Empire of "Barbarians and monsters" had the Best Road system and lowest crime rate of the Medieval World.

 

[HerrBobo]

Heres a new question what was the biggest (contiguous) Empire in History?

Population or land mass?

The mongol empire.

Yup the biggest contiguos empire... how about non-contiguous?

Britain?

Yup 1/4 of the world... makes me proud to be British..... sometimes.

Actually there is a BIG difference between an empire and a colonial empire,as the most advanced and large empire was the roman empire,since all the population was romanised and answered to one government. A colonial empire is basically 50 men with guns saying they control a continent, and shooting the indigent people. In the roman empire they had legions and police in every area they controlled,same with the Ottoman empire,in the 18th century (ish) europeans went around the world proclaiming someone elses teritory as their own,thats colonialism,but yeah the British colonial empire were the largest in the world

I'm not going to disagree that there is a difference between an "empire" Empire and a "colonial" Empire, you are right. But a Colonial Empire is still technically an Empire.

But your policing point reminded me of another great fact/myth of The Mongolian Empire.

It was said (during the time of Genghis Khan) that in the Mongolian Empire a person could walk the entire length of the Empire (From the Caspian sea to Korea) with a plate of Gold on their head with no protection without the fear of being robbed.

Whether this is true or not its not sure no-one tested it out as far as i'm aware of. But it's a funny fact that an Empire of "Barbarians and monsters" had the Best Road system and lowest crime rate of the Medieval World.

Thats cause Genghis had killed most of them. j/k(ish)



Who first referd the great Roman General Pompey as "Magnus?"

Bouns points if you can tell me why was called it.....

 

[Palindromemordnilap_v1legacy]

Who was America named after? (This is a seriously tricky question, just so your forewarned)

It named after an Italian map maker name Amerigo Vispucci(sp?), who made the first map of what was considered the "New World" and it showed the continents of North and South America. It wasn't geographically accurate in the least. He was considered the first to do it though.

Wrong, it was most likely named after Welsh businessman Richard Ameryk. If it were named after Vespucci it would be called Vespucciland or some other derivation

No, actually we were both wrong. Amerigo Vespucci who was an Italian explorer (my bad)who explored what we today consider the South American continent between 1497-1502 and who was the first to say it was not the West Indies. German cartographers Martin Waldseemuller and Matthias Ringmann were actually the ones who named the continent after Vespucci using the latin version of his name but the feminine form of it. In 1538, another German, Gerand Mercater, used it to name the North American continent in his map. Sorry, no Welsh involved.

No, the first recorded use of the word America is in relation to an expedition made up in Labrador two years before Vespucci. This expedition was funded by Richard Ameryk, so the new land was named after him. I gave a much better explanation on the first page

"shrug" Wikipedia would like to disagree with you.

I prefer to trust my sources over wikipedia

"Authorities on Amerigo Vespucci" by Frederick Albion Ober, library.thinkquest.org, geography.about.com, and answers.yahoo would also like to disagree with you.

Then they're wrong too. I said originally it was a tricky question. It cannot be named after Vespucci because discoveries were given the surnames of their discoverers. Cook Islands, Straits of Magellan, Tasmania...If it were named after Vespucci it would have been called something along the lines of Vespuccia since Amerigo is his first name. So I'm afraid that Vespucci had nothing to do with the naming of America. Martin Waldseemuller, who you mention, mistakenly made the leap of logic, but was wrong. There are records predating his 1507 map that refer to America being discovered by the crew of the Matthew, a ship belonging to Giovanni Caboto who was funded by Richard Ameryk

A general question but why do so many people call the French cowards? Is it just because of WW2?

Pretty much that and Vietnam, but I personally don't agree because of Napoleon being a badass with is badass french army.

The French actually have one of the best military records in history, but because of more recent events get labelled cowards. It' actually kind of funny

 

[Deadpoolsbrain]

Heres a new question what was the biggest (contiguous) Empire in History?

Population or land mass?

The mongol empire.

Yup the biggest contiguos empire... how about non-contiguous?

Britain?

Yup 1/4 of the world... makes me proud to be British..... sometimes.

Actually there is a BIG difference between an empire and a colonial empire,as the most advanced and large empire was the roman empire,since all the population was romanised and answered to one government. A colonial empire is basically 50 men with guns saying they control a continent, and shooting the indigent people. In the roman empire they had legions and police in every area they controlled,same with the Ottoman empire,in the 18th century (ish) europeans went around the world proclaiming someone elses teritory as their own,thats colonialism,but yeah the British colonial empire were the largest in the world

I'm not going to disagree that there is a difference between an "empire" Empire and a "colonial" Empire, you are right. But a Colonial Empire is still technically an Empire.

But your policing point reminded me of another great fact/myth of The Mongolian Empire.

It was said (during the time of Genghis Khan) that in the Mongolian Empire a person could walk the entire length of the Empire (From the Caspian sea to Korea) with a plate of Gold on their head with no protection without the fear of being robbed.

Whether this is true or not its not sure no-one tested it out as far as i'm aware of. But it's a funny fact that an Empire of "Barbarians and monsters" had the Best Road system and lowest crime rate of the Medieval World.

Thats cause Genghis had killed most of them. j/k(ish)



Who first referd the great Roman General Pompey as "Magnus?"

Bouns points if you can tell me why was called it.....

I guess I only get the bonus points he recieved the title for winning a battle of somesort. I'm guessing he was first called by Julius Ceasar.

Edit: wait no I rembember it was a guy named Sullus or Sullas something like that.

 

[Spaceman_Spiff]

A general question but why do so many people call the French cowards? Is it just because of WW2?

Pretty much that and Vietnam, but I personally don't agree because of Napoleon being a badass with is badass french army.

The French actually have one of the best military records in history, but because of more recent events get labelled cowards. It' actually kind of funny[/quote]
Is it a coincidence that both of these wars had the U.S as allies?

 

[teh_gunslinger]

The Coliseum was built where Nero had his golden palace.

Who fist referd the great Roman General Pompey as "Magnus?"

Bouns points if you can tell me why was called it.....

No idea who referred to him as Magnus first, but I believe he got the title for his campaigns against the pirates of the eastern Mediterranean. Some suggest that Sulla awarded him it (perhaps as a joke considering his ego), but I kinda suspect that is just hearsay. Though he was awarded 3 Triumphs so he was a rather important military figure however way you spin it.

I can't find the book but I think I have the Sulla thing from Plutarch.

 

[irishstormtrooper]

The only casualty of the first bombing run on Berlin (in WW2) was the only elephant in the Berlin zoo.

 

[Spaceman_Spiff]

Heres a new question what was the biggest (contiguous) Empire in History?

Population or land mass?

The mongol empire.

Yup the biggest contiguos empire... how about non-contiguous?

Britain?

Yup 1/4 of the world... makes me proud to be British..... sometimes.

Actually there is a BIG difference between an empire and a colonial empire,as the most advanced and large empire was the roman empire,since all the population was romanised and answered to one government. A colonial empire is basically 50 men with guns saying they control a continent, and shooting the indigent people. In the roman empire they had legions and police in every area they controlled,same with the Ottoman empire,in the 18th century (ish) europeans went around the world proclaiming someone elses teritory as their own,thats colonialism,but yeah the British colonial empire were the largest in the world

I'm not going to disagree that there is a difference between an "empire" Empire and a "colonial" Empire, you are right. But a Colonial Empire is still technically an Empire.

But your policing point reminded me of another great fact/myth of The Mongolian Empire.

It was said (during the time of Genghis Khan) that in the Mongolian Empire a person could walk the entire length of the Empire (From the Caspian sea to Korea) with a plate of Gold on their head with no protection without the fear of being robbed.

Whether this is true or not its not sure no-one tested it out as far as i'm aware of. But it's a funny fact that an Empire of "Barbarians and monsters" had the Best Road system and lowest crime rate of the Medieval World.

Thats cause Genghis had killed most of them. j/k(ish)



Who first referd the great Roman General Pompey as "Magnus?"

Bouns points if you can tell me why was called it.....

I guess I only get the bonus points he recieved the title for winning a battle of somesort. I'm guessing he was first called by Julius Ceasar.

I dont think it was Caesar because didnt they fight each other in battle when Caesar tried to seize power.

 

[Swaki]

which country was the first to legalize gay marriage and stick whit it?

 

[Vision of Division]

How did Hitler lose his testicle?

I think he lost it because he got caught up in an explosion in WW1. I'm not sure though.

And to the OP, nice idea for a thread. I think I'll stick around here for a while.

Thanks man, good to know i'm not the only one that like history

 

[Deadpoolsbrain]

which country was the first to legalize gay marriage and stick whit it?

No clue but your avatar is terrifying.

 

[D.C.]

But your policing point reminded me of another great fact/myth of The Mongolian Empire.

It was said (during the time of Genghis Khan) that in the Mongolian Empire a person could walk the entire length of the Empire (From the Caspian sea to Korea) with a plate of Gold on their head with no protection without the fear of being robbed.

Whether this is true or not its not sure no-one tested it out as far as i'm aware of. But it's a funny fact that an Empire of "Barbarians and monsters" had the Best Road system and lowest crime rate of the Medieval World.

Thats cause Genghis had killed most of them. j/k(ish)



Who first referd the great Roman General Pompey as "Magnus?"

Bouns points if you can tell me why was called it.....

I dont know why your joking it's pretty much true, anyone who disobeyed Genghis' rule or Law was instantly killed. Herat is a great example, it stopped paying tribute to Genghis due to a rebellion in the south. When Ghengis besieged the city he killed all the inhabitants bar one.
Does any one know of the legend of why this man survived?


As for Magnus i'm stumped Romans arnt my thing.

 

[Vision of Division]

What did the Soviets try to use as anti-tank weapons in World War 2? And It's not the bazooka!

 

[Tales of Golden Sun]

Why did Xerxes I inherit the Persian throne even though he wasn't Darius I's first son?

 

[Palindromemordnilap_v1legacy]

Dogs with mines on their back. But the dogs had been trained using Russian tanks, so they kept blowing up their own troops

 

[TheLastCylon]

Who was the first Roman emperor to have a beard?

 

[Deadpoolsbrain]

But your policing point reminded me of another great fact/myth of The Mongolian Empire.

It was said (during the time of Genghis Khan) that in the Mongolian Empire a person could walk the entire length of the Empire (From the Caspian sea to Korea) with a plate of Gold on their head with no protection without the fear of being robbed.

Whether this is true or not its not sure no-one tested it out as far as i'm aware of. But it's a funny fact that an Empire of "Barbarians and monsters" had the Best Road system and lowest crime rate of the Medieval World.

Thats cause Genghis had killed most of them. j/k(ish)



Who first referd the great Roman General Pompey as "Magnus?"

Bouns points if you can tell me why was called it.....

I dont know why your joking it's pretty much true, anyone who disobeyed Genghis' rule or Law was instantly killed. Herat is a great example, it stopped paying tribute to Genghis due to a rebellion in the south. When Ghengis besieged the city he killed all the inhabitants bar one.
Does any one know of the legend of why this man survived?


As for Magnus i'm stumped Romans arnt my thing.

No idea but I would love to know why.

 

[Vision of Division]

Dogs with mines on their back. But the dogs had been trained using Russian tanks, so they kept blowing up their own troops

Excellent!
Now, can you tell me how Hitler tested his Luftwaffe prior to WWII?

 

[HerrBobo]

The Coliseum was built where Nero had his golden palace.

Who fist referd the great Roman General Pompey as "Magnus?"

Bouns points if you can tell me why was called it.....

No idea who referred to him as Magnus first, but I believe he got the title for his campaigns against the pirates of the eastern Mediterranean. Some suggest that Sulla awarded him it (perhaps as a joke considering his ego), but I kinda suspect that is just hearsay. Though he was awarded 3 Triumphs so he was a rather important military figure however way you spin it.

I can't find the book but I think I have the Sulla thing from Plutarch.

Not bad. Also well done to the other guy who got Sulla.

He gave it to him at his triumph after putting down the rebellion in Sicilly. Pompey demanded a triumph; at first Sulla said no but gave in in the end. Popey had a huge chariot constucted but it would not fit through the archways. Upon seeing this Sulla began laughing and calling Pompey "Magnus" as a joke. It was not till years after Sullas death that Pompey called himself Maguns.

BTW, great thread.

 

[SsilverR]

**cut**

i'm on the PS3 so i can't write much .. i'll just say 2 things .. but i can't go into as much depth as i'd like

1. there is an official history .. it's what's printed in school history books as objective fact

2. history IS written by the winners ... the observers can only write what the winners allowed them to ... information has and always will be controlled by the greater power

he who controls the present controls the past, he who controls the past controls the future