HL2 Ep3

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I actually didn't buy L4D2 because I wanted them to finish half life first. Apparently I was in the minority of people who actually went through with it.

I got 6 other people to buy copies of TF2. but still...

Please finish your game. If you guys don't finish this series, I just might give up on video games all together. Fear 2 was such a miserable console port, I didn't even buy it. COD turned its back on Dedicated servers, Unreal pretty much is a console GoW developer only now... I can't stand using the xbox controller. If valve gives up on half life, I think I'll just quit all together.
 

Flying-Emu

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Why are you telling us?

Every time you call Gabe Newell fat, he adds another week on to Ep 3's release date. So start a boycott of people who tease Newell and we'll have a starting point.
 

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Well, thanks for sharing.

I would say something sarcastically witty but I shall not for two reasons.
First reason is because I'm actually in a really bad mood and anything I do say would just be aggressive. Second reason is I can't actually be sarcastically witty so I'm in a lose-lose position here.
 

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Sassafrass said:
Well, thanks for sharing.

I would say something sarcastically witty but I shall not for two reasons.
First reason is because I'm actually in a really bad mood and anything I do say would just be aggressive. Second reason is I can't actually be sarcastically witty so I'm in a lose-lose position here.
I'll do it for you.


OT: What's a "HL2 Ep3"..........?
 

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Well, I'll say the same thing I've said before:

Valve makes good games, in particular I have yet to play something with the name 'Half-Life' on it I didn't really like.

Good games take a good amount of time to make.

As such, Valve can take all the time in the world as far as I'm concerned. Trying to force anything else would just reduce the quality of the final product.
 

e2density

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You gotta remember, Valve runs on Valve Time [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time].
 

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iTeamKill said:
I actually didn't buy L4D2 because I wanted them to finish half life first. Apparently I was in the minority of people who actually went through with it.

I got 6 other people to buy copies of TF2. but still...

Please finish your game. If you guys don't finish this series, I just might give up on video games all together. Fear 2 was such a miserable console port, I didn't even buy it. COD turned its back on Dedicated servers, Unreal pretty much is a console GoW developer only now... I can't stand using the xbox controller. If valve gives up on half life, I think I'll just quit all together.
Don't worry. Ep.3 will be released soon. Most likely after Duke Nukem: Forever. Should come out around the same time as Starcraft: Ghost.
 

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Now that you mention it. Where the hell is episode 3? Could of sworn they said the entire concept behind shorter episodic games was that they would have a shorter development time...
 

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1: We are not Valve.
2: Why all the hype for what from a scientific standpoint can be described as "The most average shooter ever"? My theory is that the internet is collectively planning to dump pig blood on Gabe Newell after they finish Half Life.
 

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Is there some sort of unwritten internet rule mandating someone ask about HL2 Ep3 at least once every two weeks?

It'll come out when and if it comes out. Isn't that enough? Hal-Life's an okay game, but there's more out there in the gaming "ether", so to speak, than Mr. Freeman's stoic use of a crowbar.
 

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iTeamKill said:
I actually didn't buy L4D2 because I wanted them to finish half life first. Apparently I was in the minority of people who actually went through with it.

I got 6 other people to buy copies of TF2. but still...

Please finish your game. If you guys don't finish this series, I just might give up on video games all together. Fear 2 was such a miserable console port, I didn't even buy it. COD turned its back on Dedicated servers, Unreal pretty much is a console GoW developer only now... I can't stand using the xbox controller. If valve gives up on half life, I think I'll just quit all together.
You obviously don't understand how game developers operate. As someone who hopes to make a career in the industry I made a point of doing at least some research into how developers work and operate. And this is knowledge that most gamers will have anyway, or at least I hope so. Just to make it somewhat clear:

[HEADING=1]MULTIPLE TEAMS WORK ON MULTIPLE GAMES!!!!![/HEADING]

Basically, a developer will be split into multiple studios, with their own teams. Some people may possibly work within several different teams, but this is rare. There will, however, be multiple teams working for the same company, but in seperate studios. A prime example would be Bethesda Softworks, who made Oblivion. They are simply a single studio working within the developer, Bethesda.

Each team will be working on a different project. This makes sense, since if a developer only produced a single game at a time then it would take several years between releases and the developers would lose money. Such a system is not financially solvent. Regarding Valve, this means that Episode Three will be worked on by one team, while another is working on L4D2, and so on. So any changes or increased workload for the L4D2 team will have absolutely no effect on the development of Episode Three. Your refusal to buy L4D2 will have no effect on the development of Episode Three, while the only effect a full boycott would have is massive financial losses for Valve.

Whatever you do regarding L4D2 will not affect Episode Three's development. There is a team working on it which means that it is still in development and will be released when it's finished. The development of L4D2 had no effect. Hopefully this is clear to you now, so can people please stop complaining about L4D2 and HL2Ep3? Thank you...
 

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quiet_samurai said:
Sassafrass said:
Well, thanks for sharing.

I would say something sarcastically witty but I shall not for two reasons.
First reason is because I'm actually in a really bad mood and anything I do say would just be aggressive. Second reason is I can't actually be sarcastically witty so I'm in a lose-lose position here.
I'll do it for you.


OT: What's a "HL2 Ep3"..........?
Half-Life 2 Episode 3.
 

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Souplex said:
1: We are not Valve.
2: Why all the hype for what from a scientific standpoint can be described as "The most average shooter ever"? My theory is that the internet is collectively planning to dump pig blood on Gabe Newell after they finish Half Life.
Valve didn't make FEAR...
 

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Flying-Emu said:
Souplex said:
1: We are not Valve.
2: Why all the hype for what from a scientific standpoint can be described as "The most average shooter ever"? My theory is that the internet is collectively planning to dump pig blood on Gabe Newell after they finish Half Life.
Valve didn't make FEAR...
Fear didn't feature power armored non-characters fighting one dimensional generically evil alien invaders using boring generic weapons. Half Life is more average.
 

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Souplex said:
Flying-Emu said:
Souplex said:
1: We are not Valve.
2: Why all the hype for what from a scientific standpoint can be described as "The most average shooter ever"? My theory is that the internet is collectively planning to dump pig blood on Gabe Newell after they finish Half Life.
Valve didn't make FEAR...
Fear didn't feature power armored non-characters fighting one dimensional generically evil alien invaders. Half Life is more average.
Power-armored...

but...

They were wearing PADDED armor, bro.

As to FEAR, FEAR did have incredibly amateurish animation and attempts at "fear". Which is kind of sad, considering how it's IN THE NAME.
 

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Flying-Emu said:
Valve didn't make FEAR...
Har dee har har...

At any rate, it's worth pointing out (because honestly, it needs pointing out every once in awhile) that while Half-Life is a good game, it is by no means the best game. As a matter of fact, according to some, it doesn't even qualify as a great game. I appreciate what the game's arrival did to shooters, and gaming in general, and the legacy it has left. I can also appreciate that, as far as developers go, Valve has done an excellent job supporting and rewarding its loyal players.

However, the rampant Valve/HL fanboyism that seems to pervade every nuance of the forums is unwarranted. Just because they did something right once (Episode 2 is not all that great), does not mean they deserve your blind loyalty and your zealous support. I've heard plenty of folks on here complain about console fanboys, or people who blindly praise anything Bungie spits out. Well, as a player on the other side of the veritable fence, I can promise you: your blind devotion to Valve is annoying, and we all really wish you'd stop.

As a side note: Sorry, ostrich. I am not trying to label you a fanboy, merely venting in addition to my sarcastic response to your shot at FEAR. It's all coincidental, I assure you.
 

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Flying-Emu said:
Souplex said:
Flying-Emu said:
Souplex said:
1: We are not Valve.
2: Why all the hype for what from a scientific standpoint can be described as "The most average shooter ever"? My theory is that the internet is collectively planning to dump pig blood on Gabe Newell after they finish Half Life.
Valve didn't make FEAR...
Fear didn't feature power armored non-characters fighting one dimensional generically evil alien invaders. Half Life is more average.
Power-armored...

but...

They were wearing PADDED armor, bro.

As to FEAR, FEAR did have incredibly amateurish animation and attempts at "fear". Which is kind of sad, considering how it's IN THE NAME.
Yes, but due to the lack of cutscenes, reflective surfaces, or legs when you look down, there is no in-game evidence that Gordon Freeman is anything more than a floating pair of hands that can pull guns out of nowhere. Therefore making him the most boring flat character ever conceived in a vidya game. Half Life is therefore more average than FEAR.
 

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Souplex said:
Flying-Emu said:
Souplex said:
1: We are not Valve.
2: Why all the hype for what from a scientific standpoint can be described as "The most average shooter ever"? My theory is that the internet is collectively planning to dump pig blood on Gabe Newell after they finish Half Life.
Valve didn't make FEAR...
Fear didn't feature power armored non-characters fighting one dimensional generically evil alien invaders. Half Life is more average.

I'd say avoiding all the reasons why half-life was considered a masterpiece, instead calling it average due to a bizarre focus on particular plot focus, is a rather pathetic troll argument.

Your post is rather pointless, it's very very obvious why half-life episode 3 is so wanted. And that's because all other valve games have been so fantastic, and half-life is valve's flagship title.

Onto the main topic, I agree that I wish valve would release half-life 2 episode 3. But that said, one of the reasons valve is so good is their quality control, look at team fortress 2, they didn't release it for over half a decade as they weren't happy with it. So I'm happy to wait for another decade if I have to.

Yes, but due to the lack of cutscenes, reflective surfaces, or legs when you look down, there is no in-game evidence that Gordon Freeman is anything more than a floating pair of hands that can pull guns out of nowhere. Therefore making him the most boring flat character ever conceived in a vidya game. Half Life is therefore more average than FEAR.
That's the point. Gordon Freeman is you. The whole device of making him not speak is to immerse you into the game without the character you play as being taken away from your own emotional state. He's just a bystander caught up in the events.

Naming it the most average shooter due to this purposeful plot device rather shows you lack the understanding to critique video games.
 

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Souplex said:
Flying-Emu said:
CHILDREN!!!

" I like ____. So whats the deal with so many people not liking it? The _____ is great, the _______________________________ offers a very satisfying _______ experience. The stories are usually well told, with excellent ____________. I just don't get why people don't like it."
" I dislike _____. So whats the deal with so many people liking it? The _____ is horrible, the _____________________________ offers a very unsatisfying _____ experience. The stories are never told well, with horrendous ____________. I just don't get why people like it."
Ok, so what is the difference between these two statements? , Whichever one represents what you said, and the one that takes the opposing viewpoint? Nothing. Why nothing? Because of these words...

like / dislike
great / horrible
satisfying / unsatisfying
well / not well
excellent / horrendous

What do these words have in common? They're subjective. Do you know what subjective means? I'll tell you, it means they differ in definition from person to person. Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so to is entertainment. To deal with this strange phenomenon of "differing subjective meaning", the english language has a word that describes it perfectly.

o-pin-ion [uh-pin-yuhn]
-noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

Now i ask you. My opinion on ______, does it matter to you? Does me, telling you my opinion influence you in any way? No? Then imagine how i feel. Your opinion doesn't matter to me either. Because i happen to know the difference between "subjective", and "objective".

This was not meant to be read in any angry tone. It was educational only. Have a nice night, (or day, where ever you happen to live).

I have now decided that this shall be saved in a word file on my desktop so i may cut and paste. Putting in the necessary subject matter whenever i need to. I hold no copyright or trademark on this educational work, you are free do do as you please with it. No rights reserved.

Have a nice day.