HL2 Ep3
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The problem with what you say is that there is opinion. Such as I like ham. And truth. Such as I think ham is a giant space mushroom.grimsprice said:
Naming a game that was technologically innovative, cinematically innovative, and critically acclaimed average has gone from opinion to plain wrong. You can say that you dislike a game due to personal taste, but you cannot say a game is bad when it is clearly at the very least, a cut above the rest.
E.G. I don't like radiohead, but I have to concede their worth to music.
The thing is, it works against them. The fact that whenever you have a shoehorned in conversation with the most annoying support character in gaming history (I don't get why they focus on Alxy, because with Barney, and Eli they have proven they are indeed capable of writing good characters) and she says something along the lines of "What do you think Gordon?" and then there is a moment of awkward silence it takes you out of the experience. Whenever you look on the screen and notice that there is nothing more to you than hands, not even a goddamn pair of legs when you look down it also takes you out of the experience. Half Life 1 worked because it went for the Metroidvania isolation route. In two it was just stupid.Arcticflame said:
Actually the team @ VALVe is pretty small, and they do cross over to help with the shipping of other games, and partially the development.Trivun said:
In their Tf2 and L4D blog posts they tell of how when they shipped L4D and L4D2 they got most of their team to stop working on the bug fixes that were plaguing us for a week after an update.
(souplex)
HL2 is a masterpeice and I cbfed explaining why, because if you didn't understand during the playthrough you wont understand it now.
I don't get it, your complaining about not having any multi-player options and then complain about a game who's predecesors seemed to be focused on single player (even thought extensive modding has apparently made some fun Half-Life multiplayer, but I wouldn't know first hand)? your kinda stupid.
I think Valve is afraid of fucking up HL2:E3 and any HL game after that....it's like they've been counting their blessing the whole time HL1&2 became a big success and they're afraid it's all down hill from there.
The problem with what you say is that "technologically innovative, cinematically innovative, and critically acclaimed" is the very definition of wildly subjective. If half life 2 was released today, it would be boring, generic, heavily padded, and only barely engaging. Standards change, and its been so long since Half Life 2 came out that any expansion to it will not meet the industries entertainment standards.Arcticflame said:
No one said it wasn't important at the time. It has historical significance, like the first mono-winged airplane. But people won't go "ooooh ahhhhh" if you released it today.
Its a fossil. And should be treated like one. As something with great cultural and historic significance. It deserves respect and praise for the accomplishments it made when it was fresh. But to call it "awesome" in todays world is just nostalgia clouding your vision like cataracts.
I tend to think it should be called Half Life 3 because if it's taken this long and it's just an episode like 2 and 3 were then people are going to rage. It's gonna have to be another big story driven game at least as long as Half life 2 if not longer.
No short little episode is worth such a long wait, especially if that episode is just more of the same.
No short little episode is worth such a long wait, especially if that episode is just more of the same.
This thread is completely original and I have never heard this complaint ever.
Yeah, you'd think that, except that every couple years Link to the Past is rereleased as a new game with a different title (except for Wind Waker) and people gobble that shit up. Ocarina of Time is stupidly viewed as one of the best games of all time, and Twilight Princess was adored for some idiotic reason. Your point has just been invalidated.grimsprice said:
Well hopefully Ep3 will be as long as if not longer than Half-life 2, otherwise I'm going to be pissed.OUTgunned said:
Even if it is a fantastic game despite its lack of length.
So you're saying that eventually you have to stop liking a game because it doesn't meet today's standards. It'd be like saying the Evil Dead movies were good, but not anymore because the effects are outdated and was very silly at times, very much unlike today's movies. Yes, nostalgia can cloud the opinions of those who fail to think differently. That doesn't mean that old stuff is necessarily bad because it's old. I played HL2 not even a couple months ago from start to finish. It's the kind of game that could really hold my interest all the way through. Maybe it's because I don't play enough games, but I enjoyed it.grimsprice said:
If Valve don't make HL2:EP 3 in 3-D(!) Then I will be generally pissed, and it has to be good as well
Half-Life is great because it had some of the best shooter gameplay in parts(Surface Tension, Follow Freeman, Ravenholm). Most of the game is kind of filler to me, but the truly awesome parts make it worth playing. It's one of those games where you make saves at certain places to play later, not replay the whole game. I hated Episode 1, but I think Opposing Forces was actually some of the best gameplay in the Half-life series. And FEAR doesn't hold a candle to it, if just for how derivative FEAR was(John Woo meets Max Payne meets The Ring). A full third of Half-life did not take place in office space, even if a good fifth of it does take place in boiler rooms.
Comparing Zelda to Half-life is like comparing mangoes to pineapples- one is soft and squishy and sweet, while the other is hard and spiky and will hurt you if you don't have a crowbar.
Comparing Zelda to Half-life is like comparing mangoes to pineapples- one is soft and squishy and sweet, while the other is hard and spiky and will hurt you if you don't have a crowbar.
No, of course you don't have to stop liking it. I still like a fist full of N64 games. I still consider it to be the console that kicked the greatest amount of ass in its day.thatstheguy said:
But you have to realize that if a game, oh, lets say, ODST was launched the same year as Half Life 2, the entertainment industry would have collectively shit a brick about it. Half life 2 would have been long forgotten. These things are all relative. You have to realize that game become outdated, and to say they can hold up today and compete against newer titles is just not true.
As for your personal experience, enjoying the game today, i really don't have much to say. I have a shirt that says "EVERYTHING i say is ALWAYS a semi-applicable generalization."
And movies are a totally different bag than games. 85% of what makes a movie good is the delivery of it by the director and actors. 5% is a product of the hype-relativity-lensing equation. 10% is visuals. This is why Transformers 2 is shit, while Starwars epsiode 4 is a classic.
Yeah, and adding a big fat capitalized acronym makes you completely right. Oh wait. Maybe you need to look up what exactly a remake is, because Nintendo franchises are the epitomy of remakes. And Nintendo fanboys glorify Miyamoto for doing it.grimsprice said:
Zelda hasn't aged at all. They reskin it with newer graphics, palette swap some characters, and repackage it with basically the same story and gameplay each time. What's even funnier, people idolize Ocarina of Time, even though it also coined a slang term for bad design "Water Temple."Souplex said:
Nintendo constantly gets away with bitchslapping thier fans, spitting in thier faces, and doing whatever corrupt garbage they can get away with. I mean goddam, Tingle was a giant joke at the expense of the entire Zelda fanbase. You can claim whatever you want about HL2 not being able to age if it were released today, it'd still be praised as great, because it was. It wasn't the gameplay or graphics that made it great, it was bringing likeable and believable characters to the table in a well thought out environment. Hell, that's why Bioshock did so well with such a dated graphics engine when it came out 2 years ago.
It is sad. We could always hang ourselves with our Ethernet cables. That shit is strong.iTeamKill said: