Homefront: Not so original?
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Right, because you've played the game.GreyKnight3445 said:
But even if you haven't, if a game isn't original it automatically sucks, right? Like Uncharted, that was a terrible game because it didn't try anything incredibly risky or unique! It doesn't matter how good the gameplay is, or how great the story is, or how good the characters are, it sucks because IT'S NOT ORIGINAL.
It reminds me of Turning Point Fall of Liberty
BUT
As with all games it is wrong to poo poo one until you try it. I will see how it fares when it is released
BUT
As with all games it is wrong to poo poo one until you try it. I will see how it fares when it is released
Honestly, we can theory-craft all we want, but we can't determine anything until we see how the game is executed (i.e. in a demo).Nocola said:
What the game will come down to is the impact of the voice actors, animation, and visual story-telling.
Currently, I'm ambivalent about whether or not (and in what aspects, i.e. single or multiplayer) this game will be good.
Now the game "World in Conflict" however... that was a good story of an invasion of America. It's also responsible for my favorite video game cinematic:
Embed Doesn't want to work with me [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOK7r1pa74M]
Between that scene and the battle at Cascade Falls, and stunning voice actors it was brilliantly executed.
In the end, whether-or-not its a grayscale FPS doesn't matter: it all comes down to the execution
A non-spec-ops civilian guy who will still absorb more ammo than the broad side of most barns.Ironman126 said:
I wish someone would make a game that actually made you feel like you were fighting against overwhelming odds, forcing you to use guerrilla tactics and scrounge for ammo. Also, I'd like it to feature anyone but an American in the leading role, preferably I'd like it to feature no Americans at all.
Homefront just sounds boring to me.
Two question:Dethpixie said:
One: Do you know for a fact that he will "absorb more ammo than the broad side of most barns?" And two: Do you game on a console or a PC?
Cuz if you're a PC gamer, then you NEED to check out the STALKER games. They feature Ukrainian player characters who die after 3 or 4 bullets, assuming they have decent armor. They also tend to bleed out and die of radiation poisoning if not properly treated and ammo is never around when you need it. In other words, STALKER meets your requirements.
America. Remember how big of a spazz Fox had when the word Taliban was to be used in MoH? Remember how they got 6 Days In Fallujah banned because it had American soldiers in it that got killed?cjbos81 said:
A USA = bad guys game will NEVER make it to shelves in the current status quo.
QFT. World in Conflict is how you do a "America invaded!" game. I wish there was a sequel or something to that in order to continue the story though... :/GreyKnight3445 said:Actually its very unoriginal. World in Conflict had a much better setting for it and it was done much much better because there was an actual reason to invade (the USSR said help us to Western Europe, they said no, so they invaded in order to avoid a collapse, and they invaded the U.S. to stop the flow of troops and armor to Europe)
That and there`s no patriotism to see for miles
OT: I think we need a game where you play as a resistance fighter who is in a country invaded by the US. THAT would be an interesting story if done right.
As for this game, I don't really care. It doesn't look interesting, and so I'll be content to ignore it unless everyone and their mother's dog tells me that its a good game.
They weren't talking about that scene necessarily. The orignality is the ability to call in anything you want based off of your score, the plot is pretty original in context. Overall, I'd say that pretty nice.
(NOTE: Minor grammar edits were made in the above, just because they're pet peeves of mine.)Vykrel said:
I'd posit that I simply have a different taste for games than you. Among the things which killed the HL2 experience for me were:
No Iron Sights/Precision Aim system, short of a few specialized weapons
Labyrinthine maps
Uninteresting, faceless antagonists
Uninteresting protagonists
Uninteresting PC
Ill-handled tropes in feeble attempts to push the plot forward.
(Author's note: Again, Minor grammar-fixes)Vykrel said:Then maybe you shouldn't accuse a game of being over-hyped next time.Thanatos5150 said:Just say it wasn't your cup of tea. Otherwise, it just sounds like you think everyone else is wrong for loving the game
That implies that I believe there's a "Right" and a "wrong" way to enjoy games. Which is simply untrue. As a member of the "Games are art" camp, I believe that anyone can enjoy any game they damn' well please for any reason, even if it's only "It goes with my couch, man"-itis.
Hell, I liked Alpha Protocol and honestly cannot understand why Starcraft II is a thing when there's Dawn of War and Dawn of War II on the market. I'm the last person to run around and calling other people "wrong" for their taste in games.
Kind of odd, because that was one of the games that made their reputation. Only their second single player release. And they took a pretty decent chance with it. Unlike Doom 2, Call Of Duty 2 or Halo 2, it was a pretty big departure from the original, something which is really odd for a sequel to the best selling PC FPS of all time.Thanatos5150 said:
HL2 is a very large part of the reason why Valve fanboys exist today. It's the game that proved they were more than a one-trick pony.
You can't expect an original shooter these days. Companies like Activision and EA can easily buy other companies, take their ideas, make it LOOK original, ship it off and make a quick buck and repeat. Black ops, Modern warfare 2 , homefront, Battlefield all have had very little innovation besides a few tweaks. However, these are tried and proven formulas and people aren't going to take risks in a bad market.
Homefront looks interesting, but sadly it does not seem as original as the developers are claiming it's going to be.
What I see are tiny moments of originality. That scene where you're in the house of a mother and her child, and while the battle goes on you hear the mother screaming and the baby crying. I don't care if you just consider it a bunch of polygons, that's a heart wrenching thing to go through.
Unfortunately, small bouts of originality/innovation does not a whole game make original. The multiplayer also looks interesting, with a command officer giving out orders to "Take down this guy, he's decimating us!" but again, they're small innovations that barely change up the gameplay in a huge ocean of the genre.
I'm keeping an eye on Homefront, it still looks to be an interesting experience.
What I see are tiny moments of originality. That scene where you're in the house of a mother and her child, and while the battle goes on you hear the mother screaming and the baby crying. I don't care if you just consider it a bunch of polygons, that's a heart wrenching thing to go through.
Unfortunately, small bouts of originality/innovation does not a whole game make original. The multiplayer also looks interesting, with a command officer giving out orders to "Take down this guy, he's decimating us!" but again, they're small innovations that barely change up the gameplay in a huge ocean of the genre.
I'm keeping an eye on Homefront, it still looks to be an interesting experience.
For Half Life 2: you required brain-power for the puzzles? Stacking cinder blocks on the other end of a teeter totter for a incredible physics puzzle is not brain-power inducing. For "excellent humor" I find myself unable to recall any humorous situation from it or any of the episodes, it obviously wasn't that memorable. And did HL2 actually have any bosses? All I remember is that the ultimate climax of the game involved giving you an instant kill weapon to run around with. The only thing Half Life 2 did remotely well was its story, which consisted of using fake science while throwing real sounding words at you to make you think, "Wow that's cool".Xzi said:
For Duke 3D: It stopped being funny when I passed grade 2 and toilet humor stopped being funny and just became dumb.
On topic: Homefront seems infinitely more original than alot of the upcoming games (save Brink, Bulletstorm and maybe Rage, maybe). The only thing that really interests me is the multiplayer, and partially that they want to focus on the result of the battle and who is impacted, rather than the fighting, but that sounds like it will fail horribly for a premise of a single player. The multiplayer sounds like they are taking some cues from Battlefield and from Call of Duty and making something that could very well be better than both.
The idea of Home front reminds me of Freedom Fighters which, in my opinion, is one of the best games of the last decade.