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Korten12

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DVS Storm said:
It is a COD clone. Why does every game want to be like COD(well obvious answer but still)?
Oh yeah... I forgot, game that has gun and is modern is a COD clone...
 

Korten12

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ZombieGenesis said:
I haven't seen this much denial in one place since Final Fantasy XIV.
Are you being sarcastic? Or are you seriously implying that the ones (like me) who are defending the game, are in denial?
 

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Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
I haven't seen this much denial in one place since Final Fantasy XIV.
Are you being sarcastic? Or are you seriously implying that the ones (like me) who are defending the game, are in denial?
Actually I was refering to the zealotry from both sides. I don't care who likes this game or not, I like many others are simply tired of the same checklist mechanics for every shooter release.

Some comments on the other hand are worse than just plain denial.
More like, "someone disagrees with me, I must now insult their mother."

Notice how SOME of the people trying to stand up for the game, and fair enough if they want to, seem to prefer bashing on the people who are criticising it, rather than debunking the actual criticism.

'Typical escapist responce'
'First person shooter haters'
'Minecraft players'
'You just say that because there's guns in it'

Typical, pointless... hopeless responces.
 

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I would put more stock in a 90/100 review if every AAA game didn't get them. I have no doubt that homefront will be some level of fun, but I keep on buying games that I think will be really good and getting disappointed. For example: Two Worlds 2, they have a map that you can't visit most of, horse riding is a gimmick, boats are an even bigger gimmick, the final boss battle is a gimmick that sucks if you're not a tank with a shit ton of health. I'm going to hold on to my money after shogun 2 and be careful about buying the games I want.
 

Korten12

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ZombieGenesis said:
Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
I haven't seen this much denial in one place since Final Fantasy XIV.
Are you being sarcastic? Or are you seriously implying that the ones (like me) who are defending the game, are in denial?
Actually I was refering to the zealotry from both sides. I don't care who likes this game or not, I like many others are simply tired of the same checklist mechanics for every shooter release.

Some comments on the other hand are worse than just plain denial.
More like, "someone disagrees with me, I must now insult their mother."

Notice how SOME of the people trying to stand up for the game, and fair enough if they want to, seem to prefer bashing on the people who are criticising it, rather than debunking the actual criticism.

'Typical escapist responce'
'First person shooter haters'
'Minecraft players'
'You just say that because there's guns in it'

Typical, pointless... hopeless responces.
They wouldn't say those, if it wasn't so perdictable. Seriously, half of those are really true. Most FPS on here if they are even slightly similar to COD, is bashed to hell. Its sad because it is typical of Escapist.
 

ZombieGenesis

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Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
I haven't seen this much denial in one place since Final Fantasy XIV.
Are you being sarcastic? Or are you seriously implying that the ones (like me) who are defending the game, are in denial?
Actually I was refering to the zealotry from both sides. I don't care who likes this game or not, I like many others are simply tired of the same checklist mechanics for every shooter release.

Some comments on the other hand are worse than just plain denial.
More like, "someone disagrees with me, I must now insult their mother."

Notice how SOME of the people trying to stand up for the game, and fair enough if they want to, seem to prefer bashing on the people who are criticising it, rather than debunking the actual criticism.

'Typical escapist responce'
'First person shooter haters'
'Minecraft players'
'You just say that because there's guns in it'

Typical, pointless... hopeless responces.
They wouldn't say those, if it wasn't so perdictable. Seriously, half of those are really true. Most FPS on here if they are even slightly similar to COD, is bashed to hell. Its sad because it is typical of Escapist.
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Wow. Just wow. It doesn't even look like you were trying to avoid proving my point. As far as I'm aware the Escapist is one of few places where these kind of objections ever even come up, so good on them for wanting better I say.
If your game of the year wasn't Guild Wars 2, I would lose all hope.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
I haven't seen this much denial in one place since Final Fantasy XIV.
Are you being sarcastic? Or are you seriously implying that the ones (like me) who are defending the game, are in denial?
Actually I was refering to the zealotry from both sides. I don't care who likes this game or not, I like many others are simply tired of the same checklist mechanics for every shooter release.

Some comments on the other hand are worse than just plain denial.
More like, "someone disagrees with me, I must now insult their mother."

Notice how SOME of the people trying to stand up for the game, and fair enough if they want to, seem to prefer bashing on the people who are criticising it, rather than debunking the actual criticism.

'Typical escapist responce'
'First person shooter haters'
'Minecraft players'
'You just say that because there's guns in it'

Typical, pointless... hopeless responces.
Not like the other side is doing a much better job eh?
 

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With all of that money they spent marketing it I wouldn't be surprised one bit if some of that money went to reviewers pockets. The game doesn't even look that good. I'm waiting for honest user reviews.
 

Korten12

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ZombieGenesis said:
Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
I haven't seen this much denial in one place since Final Fantasy XIV.
Are you being sarcastic? Or are you seriously implying that the ones (like me) who are defending the game, are in denial?
Actually I was refering to the zealotry from both sides. I don't care who likes this game or not, I like many others are simply tired of the same checklist mechanics for every shooter release.

Some comments on the other hand are worse than just plain denial.
More like, "someone disagrees with me, I must now insult their mother."

Notice how SOME of the people trying to stand up for the game, and fair enough if they want to, seem to prefer bashing on the people who are criticising it, rather than debunking the actual criticism.

'Typical escapist responce'
'First person shooter haters'
'Minecraft players'
'You just say that because there's guns in it'

Typical, pointless... hopeless responces.
They wouldn't say those, if it wasn't so perdictable. Seriously, half of those are really true. Most FPS on here if they are even slightly similar to COD, is bashed to hell. Its sad because it is typical of Escapist.
....
Wow. Just wow. It doesn't even look like you were trying to avoid proving my point. As far as I'm aware the Escapist is one of few places where these kind of objections ever even come up, so good on them for wanting better I say.
If your game of the year wasn't Guild Wars 2, I would lose all hope.
Yeah I saw your point. People defending it, typicall post insults to those attacking. Though it wouldn't be as bashing if they actually looked into it more and then bashed it. Like someone said above us:

All I see is "these scores are high, this is bullshit" instead of actually looking at the reviews and dissecting them. Now if they did that and gave some good arguments against it, that'd be okay, but right now we just see flaming.
This is the problem, the attackers are causing the defending to act how they do.
 

ZombieGenesis

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Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Korten12 said:
ZombieGenesis said:
I haven't seen this much denial in one place since Final Fantasy XIV.
Are you being sarcastic? Or are you seriously implying that the ones (like me) who are defending the game, are in denial?
Actually I was refering to the zealotry from both sides. I don't care who likes this game or not, I like many others are simply tired of the same checklist mechanics for every shooter release.

Some comments on the other hand are worse than just plain denial.
More like, "someone disagrees with me, I must now insult their mother."

Notice how SOME of the people trying to stand up for the game, and fair enough if they want to, seem to prefer bashing on the people who are criticising it, rather than debunking the actual criticism.

'Typical escapist responce'
'First person shooter haters'
'Minecraft players'
'You just say that because there's guns in it'

Typical, pointless... hopeless responces.
They wouldn't say those, if it wasn't so perdictable. Seriously, half of those are really true. Most FPS on here if they are even slightly similar to COD, is bashed to hell. Its sad because it is typical of Escapist.
....
Wow. Just wow. It doesn't even look like you were trying to avoid proving my point. As far as I'm aware the Escapist is one of few places where these kind of objections ever even come up, so good on them for wanting better I say.
If your game of the year wasn't Guild Wars 2, I would lose all hope.
Yeah I saw your point. People defending it, typicall post insults to those attacking. Though it wouldn't be as bashing if they actually looked into it more and then bashed it. Like someone said above us:

All I see is "these scores are high, this is bullshit" instead of actually looking at the reviews and dissecting them. Now if they did that and gave some good arguments against it, that'd be okay, but right now we just see flaming.
This is the problem, the attackers are causing the defending to act how they do.
You make a fair point. While I wouldn't put down all of the responces to being purely 'reactionary', there are plenty of statements against the score as opposed to the review. That said, those videos previously provided do summarise just about everything I would have said about it...
But I can understand why what appears to be simple objection must be upsetting. While I wouldn't defend anything perpetuating the 'same old' design, I get that some may have interest in this game beyond the basic mechanics.
Perhaps those planning to invade the US?

Who knows, but I can't deny that people have the right to defend what they like.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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This is... Interesting...

I thought the game was going to be like a 65/100, But then again, You never know until you play it.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Wow. Just wow. It doesn't even look like you were trying to avoid proving my point. As far as I'm aware the Escapist is one of few places where these kind of objections ever even come up, so good on them for wanting better I say.
If your game of the year wasn't Guild Wars 2, I would lose all hope.
...

So... the one reason you're not dismissing him as a lesser being is because he likes a game you deem worthy of being liked.

Tell me I've got that wrong.

Honestly, I'm with him, to an extent. It is true that the response towards this game is exactly what I've come to expect of the Escapist community generally (thus making it a "typical escapist response"). Homefront is a game with iron sights aiming and regenerating health, set in the modern day - the accusations of it being a "CoD clone" were visible a mile off. And since plenty of people on the Escapist hate anything that isn't innovative, and the current massive argument isn't at all surprising.

Myself, I'm of the firm belief that the formula exists because it works, and following it is not a bad thing if done in moderation. Besides, I've heard plenty of talk that Homefront's multiplayer incorporates several innovative concepts - but as another feature of the Escapist is that the majority of members prefer singleplayer to multiplayer, nobody cares, and it gets accusations of stagnation anyway.
 

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I don't get it. Who gives a shit if a game is a Call of Duty clone or not? If it bothers people that much, why are they not just ignoring the game entirely?

Personally, I might give Homefront a shot at some point. The complete and utter ridiculousness of North Korea invading the USA appeals to my love of things that are batshit insane.
 

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OhJohnNo said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Wow. Just wow. It doesn't even look like you were trying to avoid proving my point. As far as I'm aware the Escapist is one of few places where these kind of objections ever even come up, so good on them for wanting better I say.
If your game of the year wasn't Guild Wars 2, I would lose all hope.
...

So... the one reason you're not dismissing him as a lesser being is because he likes a game you deem worthy of being liked.

Tell me I've got that wrong.
Have no fear, you pretty much entirely missed the point.
 

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Well, despite all the hate that seems to be going on here, I'M personally excited for a story-driven, FPS that doesn't have a drawn-out, single-player campaign. I hope this game does really well and I hope people will shut up about it and at least give it a chance before condemning it!

Honestly, it feels like FPS games have become the "jocks" of the gaming world and get a ton of unbridled hatred just for the amount of exposure they get.
 

Korten12

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ZombieGenesis said:
Just a show of the now expect "typical escapist post"

No offense to the poster but...

this isnt my name said:
Looks like a generic fps, the gameplay shown was just trying to cause controversy, as was advertising, the writer sucks (red dawn = bullshit), the ending sucks, and by the looks of it, ets up a nice cash grab, the gameplay isnt gurilla warfare at all.

Game fails completely, just a CoD reskin.
 

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as to not be lumped in with those who say "another generic FPS", i would say i am personally not interested in this game. on a separate note, i also think this game seems to have a fair bit in common with popular FPS games like the CoD series.
HOWEVER this is not why i am not getting this game. i have 2 reasons.

1. don't really have the money to spend on a game which i have not been able to play a demo of, i am only mildly interested in, and have not played a previous title in the series.

2. i don't see what it does differently to other 'generic' FPS games. honestly, i do love the fps genre of games, but certain features are starting to bore me a bit. the usual bland locations, the same old heroes, and the same old multiplayer. i mean, bulletstorm enticed me with skillshots, a way of telling me i did a good job and patting me on the head for shooting a guy in the nads, portal will be a physics/puzzle FPS, and the new Duke + Serious Sam will be silly shooters that at least add some variety. simply put, i've played games which are and seem similar to that in the CoD series, and i've played them too much. i want something different, and homefront will not accommodate that.

however from what i've seen, it does look pretty similar to CoD (i'm not saying it is, because i haven't played it) and if that style of gameplay floats your boat, i don't see why homefront would disappoint.
 

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Korten12 said:
Ironic Pirate said:
ZombieGenesis said:
What's that? An overmarketed generic FPS gets a 9/10?

Stop the presses, I wanna get off.

I really love formulaic comments calling a game generic. Pot, kettle.

I'm going to wait to actually play the game before making edgy, jaded comments about it.
But thats in the Escapist's nature, judge before actually playing. I mean why would you play a game then judge it...
I didn't mean completely withhold any judgement, that would be impossible. Completely writing it off and making snarky, cynical comments about it is a little presumptuous when one hasn't played it.

It's like complaining about the end boss of Skyrim. I mean, you could, but not with any degree of accuracy.
 

Korten12

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Ironic Pirate said:
Korten12 said:
Ironic Pirate said:
ZombieGenesis said:
What's that? An overmarketed generic FPS gets a 9/10?

Stop the presses, I wanna get off.

I really love formulaic comments calling a game generic. Pot, kettle.

I'm going to wait to actually play the game before making edgy, jaded comments about it.
But thats in the Escapist's nature, judge before actually playing. I mean why would you play a game then judge it...
I didn't mean completely withhold any judgement, that would be impossible. Completely writing it off and making snarky, cynical comments about it is a little presumptuous when one hasn't played it.

It's like complaining about the end boss of Skyrim. I mean, you could, but not with any degree of accuracy.
Yeah, the last boss for Skyrim, is probably going to suck. XD