If you said that to a girl, would you be joking?The Diabolical Biz said:A really good friend of mine is bi, and he often jokes that he 'would'.
I can't tell if he's joking, so it's kinda awkward.
Very well put Darron, especially seeing as most of the guys who would would say "homophobisms" would likely treat women like garbage.darron13 said:Homophobia in straight males: The fear that a gay man will treat them the way they treat women.
Impressive.Palademon said:The only gay guy I know did quite frequently try to grab my junk and asked mutual friends about whether or not I'd be good at sex.
I was ok with it.
Indeed, obviously not *all* straight men are like that, I did not mean to imply it. But from my experience most homophobes tend to treat women like crap, I don't know how widespread that is, but it's a trend I notice.Zen Toombs said:Very well put Darron, especially seeing as most of the guys who would would say "homophobisms" would likely treat women like garbage.darron13 said:Homophobia in straight males: The fear that a gay man will treat them the way they treat women.
In defense of the straight male, I will say thatmostmanyat least some of my straight male friends wouldn't ever treat a girl like that.
Impressive.Palademon said:The only gay guy I know did quite frequently try to grab my junk and asked mutual friends about whether or not I'd be good at sex.
I was ok with it.
This is the best statement about this. It's all ignorance and stupidity; the idea that all men are all horny, all the time, and will latch onto anything remotely attractive.darron13 said:Homophobia in straight males: The fear that a gay man will treat them the way they treat women.
I'm gay and it's stupid. I've encountered it, and I did indeed enjoy telling him not to flatter himself.
It's depressing, really...
Some hetero guys seem to think that gay women really are missing a hefty dose of man-meat, and that all they need to do is shag the gay girl without mercy and she'll suddenly be hetero (or at least bi. The guy wants to watch the girl on girl action, and then nail both of them). Why else do you think it's such a popular trope in porno flicks?Freezy_Breezy said:For the same reason straight guys hit on lesbians?Ando85 said:In fact I've never seen a gay guy hit on a straight guy period. Why would they? Have you ever encountered someone like this?
Also yes, yes I have.
Actually I believe he was referencing something more along the lines of not knowing whether the person they hit on might be gay or not.LadyRhian said:Some hetero guys seem to think that gay women really are missing a hefty dose of man-meat, and that all they need to do is shag the gay girl without mercy and she'll suddenly be hetero (or at least bi. The guy wants to watch the girl on girl action, and then nail both of them). Why else do you think it's such a popular trope in porno flicks?Freezy_Breezy said:For the same reason straight guys hit on lesbians?Ando85 said:In fact I've never seen a gay guy hit on a straight guy period. Why would they? Have you ever encountered someone like this?
Also yes, yes I have.
True. But those guys who feel that way would only feel it was a bonus if the girl they were hitting on turned out to be gay, because of the above. Though it's not like people come with a sexual orientation tattooed on their forehead. You can't always tell.tobi the good boy said:Actually I believe he was referencing something more along the lines of not knowing whether the person they hit on might be gay or not.LadyRhian said:Some hetero guys seem to think that gay women really are missing a hefty dose of man-meat, and that all they need to do is shag the gay girl without mercy and she'll suddenly be hetero (or at least bi. The guy wants to watch the girl on girl action, and then nail both of them). Why else do you think it's such a popular trope in porno flicks?Freezy_Breezy said:For the same reason straight guys hit on lesbians?Ando85 said:In fact I've never seen a gay guy hit on a straight guy period. Why would they? Have you ever encountered someone like this?
Also yes, yes I have.
Ah, now, this is what I would think under normal circumstances, but you really have to know him to understand.Zen Toombs said:If you said that to a girl, would you be joking?The Diabolical Biz said:A really good friend of mine is bi, and he often jokes that he 'would'.
I can't tell if he's joking, so it's kinda awkward.
There's your answer.
I have multiple gay friends, none of them have ever hit on me (of course one is a lesbian, so it'd be kinda odd if she was to hit on me ) Never been hit on. I don't doubt that it happens, I mean not everyone has a prefect gaydar.rhizhim said:been hit on. didnt give a fuck. he understood and left me alone.
maybe we should talk about how insane it is to be able to do the Gay panic defense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defenseThe gay panic defense[1] is a legal defense against charges of assault or murder. A defendant using the gay panic defense claims that he or she acted in a state of violent temporary insanity because of a little-known psychiatric condition called homosexual panic.
i totally killed that cat because....uhm.... cat panic defense mechanism.
TheVioletBandit said:You used the word "homophobia", but I think you mean people that hate gay people, not people that are afraid of them?
Thanks for the definition Woodsey, but as illogical as it may seem , when I see the suffix "phobia" attached to the morpheme homo I think:Woodsey said:TheVioletBandit said:You used the word "homophobia", but I think you mean people that hate gay people, not people that are afraid of them?
homophobia
noun
[mass noun]
an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/homophobia?q=homophobia
You are splitting hairs. Whether or not the term is technically correct, you damn sure know what someone means when they use it.TheVioletBandit said:Thanks for the definition Woodsey, but as illogical as it may seem , when I see the suffix "phobia" attached to the morpheme homo I think:Woodsey said:TheVioletBandit said:You used the word "homophobia", but I think you mean people that hate gay people, not people that are afraid of them?
homophobia
noun
[mass noun]
an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/homophobia?q=homophobia
ho·mo
   [hoh-moh] Show IPA
noun, plural ho·mos. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive .
a homosexual.
and
pho·bi·a
   [foh-bee-uh] Show IPA
noun, suffix
a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.
Because of this, I conclude that the words means "a fear of homosexuals". Of course your oxford dictionary definition doesn't necessarily contest my conclusion. It states that homophobia is, "an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuals", and we can see in our definition of "phobia" that fear would cause an "aversion" or "compelling desire to avoid thing/person/situation/place."
We can even look at the etymology of the word which is:
Coined by George Weinberg in the 1960s,[9] the term homophobia is a blend of the word homosexual, itself a mix of neo-classical morphemes, and (2) phobia from the Greek φόβος, Phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear".
The term has little scientific standing, and is for the most part a pejorative term. So, I would suggest the term "Homonegativity" or "homonegativism" in order to avoid the term "homophobia", which is regarded as being unscientific in its presumption of motivation.