Homosexuality Is Unnatural

[Jonabob87]

In fact it's only become socially acceptable to be gay or pro-gay in recent decades, so your point is actually opposite to the truth.

Wrong, greeks and romans had no issue with same sex relationships and it was historically known in the indigenous populations of America (two-spirit for example) as well as third gender explanations for homosexuality in older Hindu cultures.

There are many books on GLBTQ from a historical perspective, many of which I have read and none of which I feel inclined to type out at length here. But your claim is incorrect.

Sorry is it not obvious by the word "become" that I mean in societies that were against it?

Let me say that again.

"In fact it's only become socially acceptable in civilisations rooted in abrahamic belief systems to be gay or pro-gay in recent decades, so your point is actually opposite to the truth."

 

[hexFrank202]

Well you can say it's unusual. Because a human is 'usually' heterosexual. So... yeah.

 

[VanTesla]

It's not her fault she feels that way... In her time the belief she has was ingrained into her mind and when you hit a certain old age you don't like to change stances... I blame society for people that think and feel this way. It's changing, but slowly.

 

[Valksy]

"In fact it's only become socially acceptable in civilisations rooted in abrahamic belief systems to be gay or pro-gay in recent decades, so your point is actually opposite to the truth."

Fair enough. But that is not how your original statement read.

 

[Kenko]

You know, the title of this thread could've been slightly more subtle, just sayin'.

My view: Sexuality is like religion (bear with me here people). Everyone has one, no-one has the right to force theirs on other people, and what someone's is is no damn business of anyone else.

And don't be too hard on your gran, she's just the product of a different generation. Modern society is more liberal than the fairly rigid social structures of yesteryear.

And religion is like a penis. It's okay to admit having one, but for gods sake, keep it in your pants and dont shove it down my throat. (Love this quote).

 

[otterhead]

While I have nothing against gays, I do believe that same sex relations are unnatural.

Why? Nature dictates that sex is purely for procreation, two people of the same gender cannot procreate.

You've kind of missed the point. If evolution - that is nature itself made species that are complicated (you know we aren't just single cell organisms any more) and they have they potential to be homosexual then homosexuality must be natural.

I'm sure as we have evolved certain traits are carried over and sometimes the results in people being born gay. That is because evolution and biological development is haphazard. It isn't planned, by say... a God.

 

[Sigma Van Lockheart]

I fake being gay because I know it makes people uneasy and it is fun to see their reaction when I tell them I am strait. The idea that someone thinks that it is immoral for two people who love each other can?t be together because they are the same sex really annoys me. There is nothing wrong with being gay because it is natural because it is love.

 

[Jonabob87]

"In fact it's only become socially acceptable in civilisations rooted in abrahamic belief systems to be gay or pro-gay in recent decades, so your point is actually opposite to the truth."

Fair enough. But that is not how your original statement read.

No I'm glad you pulled me up on it, I regularly fail to explain myself properly!

 

[Wierdguy]

I guess that IF you have to put it in an incredibly blunt way homosexuality is unatural because it canot produce children. The whole reason the sexual attraction is there is so that children can be produced and ensure the survival of the spechies. So since homosexuals arent producing children they... I woulnt really want to say unaturall... but at the very least they are considdered a very weak link in a pure darwinian point of view.

THats ofcourse doesnt mean homosexuals are in any way worth less or doesnt deserve the rights and respect of others. I personaly have nothing against homosexuals - so please dont take the above argument the wrong way.

 

[Cerrida]

Look at it this way: humanity is meant to procreate. Micro-evolution's purpose is to make sure that a species keeps surviving and weed out those traits that don't work. That's why you don't see short-haired dogs in the north; the long haired dogs died and got bred out. It wouldn't make sense for homosexuality to be genetic except as a mutation (like blue eyes). The parts don't fit, the plumbing doesn't work, and there is simply no way for two men or two women to have a baby by themselves. Trying to find scholoarly, current research on the subject is futile as well. Even they admit that there are many causes of homosexuality. That said, I think homosexuals are people too, I'm glad that the government is deciding to stay out of the personal lives of humans, but I can't believe that it's natural.

 

[Valksy]

While I have nothing against gays, I do believe that same sex relations are unnatural.

Why? Nature dictates that sex is purely for procreation, two people of the same gender cannot procreate.

But two lesbians, a gay male friend and a turkey baster can.... Or two gay guys, an accommodating lesbian and a turkey baster can. Or we can just dispense with the kitchen appliances, lie back and do the nasty a couple of times until it takes. It really is that simple.

Honestly, procreation is not some great and amazing mystery that we don't really understand. GLBTQ people still have all their bits intact and if the will and desire to procreate exists, it can happen. Indeed, it does happen. Or, I suppose I could grab my phone ring up my gay friends and tell them that they couldn't possibly have had the children that they had because they are gay....

(actually, I wouldn't do that. A lot of people characterise gamers as ignorant children with no experience of life, and sometimes threads like this make me nod and shrug and reckon that they might be on to something).

 

[aba1]

Homosexuality IS unnatural, however that doesn't make it wrong. Men were meant to make with women thats just the way it is but being gay doesn't hurt nobody some people are just that way so why get bent outta shape over it its not like it hurts anybody

To be honest I can't believe this is such a issue in the states esspecially when there are much more important things going down there that arnt in the limelight because of it

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

I guess that IF you have to put it in an incredibly blunt way homosexuality is unatural because it canot produce children. The whole reason the sexual attraction is there is so that children can be produced and ensure the survival of the spechies. So since homosexuals arent producing children they... I woulnt really want to say unaturall... but at the very least they are considdered a very weak link in a pure darwinian point of view.

THats ofcourse doesnt mean homosexuals are in any way worth less or doesnt deserve the rights and respect of others. I personaly have nothing against homosexuals - so please dont take the above argument the wrong way.

No offense taken. Your opinion is just that homosexuality can't (normally) produce children and that some people can see that as being bad.

That's fine. And that you go on to so vehemently assert your support for equality and fair treatment of others just reinforces your character ^^

On a side note, that guy I have a crush on might totally have a thing for me to. Totally gushing, I know, but whatever. I'm happy, lol.

 

[Dawning Age]

I believe homosexuality,bi sexuality and the many different forms of sexual preferences to be perfectly natural, and I stress the word preference. Everyone has different preferences whether it is food, literature, colour or whatever else and no one really knows why we have preferences. I sure as hell don't know why I like pasta but simply detest the taste of soup. And all these preferences are perfectly natural, so why isn't your sexual preference some how separate and unnatural unless it is one that conforms with the majority of society.

I myself are a little bit bi sexual but not all that much anymore, I'm now becoming completely heterosexual as I discover that my sexual preference is for the female population.

Also, the things that appeal to heterosexual people about people of the opposite sex, why can't they apply to people of the same gender? Why can't you be attracted to a someone of the opposite sex with a greater intelligence or beauty/handsomeness than someone of the opposite gender.

It saddens me greatly that society these days is so ignorant to the fact that stuff like this happens and it's perfectly natural and no one should persecute you for accepting it.

 

[NLS]

The only "unnatural" thing I see about it is that you can't procreate.

 

[Nerfherder17]

Sexuality only seems to be an issue where religion is involved.
Who cares what causes it, it won't make a difference to it being right or wrong.

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

It saddens me greatly that society these days is so ignorant to the fact that stuff like this happens and it's perfectly natural and no one should persecute you for accepting it.

Because loving, consenting adults should totally not be caring for one another and wishing to share their lives, right? Lol.

 

[UnmotivatedSlacker]

im gay and my take on it is this: homosexuallity is unnatural as any race of homosexuals would die out after one generation, however, humanity has evolved to a point were we are able to be homosexuall (its not a choice) openly also what i do in my bedroom is not anyone elses buisness bar my own.

A race solely made up of straight women or men would also die out after one generation. That doesn't make them unnatural.

 

[k-ossuburb]

If it's not natural then what is it, supernatural? I know this is a straw man and a false dichotomy but screw it, my point is just as valid as the assertion that "it's not natural" I just made the extra effort to point out my reductio ad absurum and therefore look like I'm trying to hard to be ironic by pointing out the irony in this whole argument.

Take that hipsters!

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

If it's not natural then what is it, supernatural? I know this is a straw man and a false dichotomy but screw it, my point is just as valid as the assertion that "it's not natural" I just made the extra effort to point out my reductio ad absurum and therefore look like I'm trying to hard to be ironic by pointing out the irony in this whole argument.

Take that hipsters!

That's pretty much my feeling on the matter. I mean... if it's not natural, where the hell did it come from? Lol.