How closely do you adhere to the law?
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I certainly wouldn't report a crime unless it was doing someone harm. I'm sure I've committed a bunch of petty crimes, many of them probably by accident.
Still, I do actually dislike the idea that speeding is OK and that it's a victimless crime. For me, speeding is not so different from drink-driving. Both make it more difficult to react in time to sudden changes on the road. Both are victimless... right up until the point that they aren't.
Think about it. If someone knocked down one of your loved ones would you really care whether it was because the driver was drunk or just busting the speed limit? Would you think "Oh, he was only speeding. At least he wasn't drunk"?
Despite that rant, I'd support raising the speed limit on UK motorways - where you generally have much more time and space to adapt due to the size of the road.
Still, I do actually dislike the idea that speeding is OK and that it's a victimless crime. For me, speeding is not so different from drink-driving. Both make it more difficult to react in time to sudden changes on the road. Both are victimless... right up until the point that they aren't.
Think about it. If someone knocked down one of your loved ones would you really care whether it was because the driver was drunk or just busting the speed limit? Would you think "Oh, he was only speeding. At least he wasn't drunk"?
Despite that rant, I'd support raising the speed limit on UK motorways - where you generally have much more time and space to adapt due to the size of the road.
I tend to speed unintentionally. When riding a motorbike you somehow feel like you're going slower than when you're in a car. Other than that I tend to follow the law(s that make sense). Morals and ethics, as well as common sense, tend to take priority though. I didn't need a law to tell me I shouldn't go on a stabbing spree.
Captcha: Be Careful. Thanks Captcha, I'll be sure to keep my eyes open for cops tomorrow!
Captcha: Be Careful. Thanks Captcha, I'll be sure to keep my eyes open for cops tomorrow!
I prefer to follow the law, but I often go against it. I notice this most biking to and from campus and my home.
If I'm in no rush, I tend to obey the law, except for when it holds a better chance of getting me killed by an idiot driver. (You find, when you bike, that basically every driver can be considered an idiot driver. It's just the nature of rolling around in a death machine.)
But when I can essentially tell that it is favorable to me and either a non-issue for others or favorable to them, I disobey some traffic laws. I usually don't get off my bike to walk crosswalks because it tends to be safer to take them quickly, getting out of the way of drivers and not confusing people who actually manage to pay attention to what pedestrians beside them are doing. I often don't signal (when I'm on the road and it calls for it) because the chance of that actually helping someone in the situations where it would, compared to the chance of it making me less stable and a greater danger to everyone, is much lower.
On that note, past a certain point in my trip I don't ride on the road. There isn't enough room on the road and care in the motorists for me to have any delusions about surviving such a thing. That, however, is legal outside of the business district of town. It's just a little murkily so.
There are a few other laws I've disobeyed once or twice, generally things that shouldn't be illegal in the first place. I'm not saying it's related to what I just said... but trying marijuana really isn't a big deal.
If I'm in no rush, I tend to obey the law, except for when it holds a better chance of getting me killed by an idiot driver. (You find, when you bike, that basically every driver can be considered an idiot driver. It's just the nature of rolling around in a death machine.)
But when I can essentially tell that it is favorable to me and either a non-issue for others or favorable to them, I disobey some traffic laws. I usually don't get off my bike to walk crosswalks because it tends to be safer to take them quickly, getting out of the way of drivers and not confusing people who actually manage to pay attention to what pedestrians beside them are doing. I often don't signal (when I'm on the road and it calls for it) because the chance of that actually helping someone in the situations where it would, compared to the chance of it making me less stable and a greater danger to everyone, is much lower.
On that note, past a certain point in my trip I don't ride on the road. There isn't enough room on the road and care in the motorists for me to have any delusions about surviving such a thing. That, however, is legal outside of the business district of town. It's just a little murkily so.
There are a few other laws I've disobeyed once or twice, generally things that shouldn't be illegal in the first place. I'm not saying it's related to what I just said... but trying marijuana really isn't a big deal.
I'm of the opinion that the OP is a greater scumbag than these neighbors as they are described. I'm not of the opinion that "laws are made to be broken" and all that other nonsense, but there are a lot of laws out there that serve no purpose but to just control people for no reason. Sometimes, there is a reason, but no one defines within that law the exact circumstances it's meant for. Jaywalking damn well had better be illegal, because how else would you ticket the dumbfuck that crosses a busy road? "Busy" is a very subjective term, so it's easier to just write the law that says "NO ROAD CROSSING!" than to define traffic flow through number of cars present and their present speeds.
Depends what they're doing, but if you're just reporting any illegal thing well you're gonna be thought off as an ass. I did a quick search to find an article that would've been good for this topic, and I couldn't find it I found another that says the average american breaks 5 laws/day, or almost 2000 laws a year (mostly likely the same ones multiple times). So like I said before think long an hard before you start reporting people since it wouldn't be particularly difficult to find dirt on you too.
You need to live next to your neighbors. If it's minor and they could just get a fine or a 1 year prison etc not a huge punishment. Guess what. After that punishment or during (not jail time) If they know I told the cops on them. They will hate me. This could result in anything thing from never wanting to see or be near me (okay whatever I don't want to talk to them anyway) or they might insult and yell at me. Threaten me. Damage my things or me.
I'm the kind of person who leaves people alone and whats to be left alone.
I'm the kind of person who leaves people alone and whats to be left alone.
Unless it's murder or rape what you do in your free time if your own choice. I try to follow the law as close as possible, but no way am I ever not going to break the law.
I have a sneaking feeling, like others, this is about pot. If so guess what? More people than you will ever realize smoke weed. Some may even shock you.
I have a sneaking feeling, like others, this is about pot. If so guess what? More people than you will ever realize smoke weed. Some may even shock you.
What? Don't pretend you haven't snuck around on rooftops in the dead of night, dropped down behind that unsuspecting, tiptoed upto to him, pulled out that concealed dagger, and ..... unlocked that achievement.
Yeah, I haven't ever gotten so much as a traffic ticket.
In fact I roam the streets looking for jaywalkers to report to the authorities. Just because the chicken crossed the road and made it doesn't mean they're gonna as well.
Yeah, I haven't ever gotten so much as a traffic ticket.
In fact I roam the streets looking for jaywalkers to report to the authorities. Just because the chicken crossed the road and made it doesn't mean they're gonna as well.
Everyone is liable to break the law at some point in their life. I do kind of trivial, selfish crimes, like I'll speed well past the speed limit if there's no one else on this stretch of road and I know I can get away with it.
On a superficial level, you can say I don't hurt anyone and thus it's okay, but truth be told, in a world where Murphy's law is in effect, the 80-mph-speeding-metal-deathtrap in a populated suburban area still had the potential to do some serious and terrible damage to myself and everyone else. To be honest, victimless crimes only exist on a superficial level, because everything has a chance to go horribly, horribly wrong.
On a superficial level, you can say I don't hurt anyone and thus it's okay, but truth be told, in a world where Murphy's law is in effect, the 80-mph-speeding-metal-deathtrap in a populated suburban area still had the potential to do some serious and terrible damage to myself and everyone else. To be honest, victimless crimes only exist on a superficial level, because everything has a chance to go horribly, horribly wrong.
i stick to the law of course, but i jaywalk all the time, i dont want to stand for 3 minutes at a dead road when i can cross at any time when theres no cars what so ever. if you look both ways and theres no cars at all coming your way, cross the street.
"No great idea in its beginning can ever be within the law. How can it be within the law? The law is stationary. The law is fixed. The law is a chariot wheel which binds us all regardless of conditions or place or time." - Emma Goldman (1869 - 1940)
"Codes of conduct redefine
As justice turns to legal crime
These monsters masked by human features
Are by far the blindest creatures."
-Skyclad - The Ilk of Human Blindness (1993)
Law is a curious thing, created by those above to keep order and civility in our society. But rarely does that hold water for long. Dirty creatures will make their way into power and create laws that weaken their opposition and furthers their own goals. That's the reason I do not follow law but a flexible moral code, "Don't be a dick" is the headline.
"What role did authority or government play in human endeavor for betterment, in invention and discovery? None whatever, or at least none that was helpful. It has always been the individual that has accomplished every miracle in that sphere, usually in spite of the prohibition, persecution and interference by authority, human and divine." Emma Goldman (1869 - 1940)
It is my belief that authority is there to feed itself and keep itself alive as long as possible like any living creature. Law enforces its survival by keeping its food contempt and satisfied. Change and progress is the killer of this creature because often it makes it clear that we don't need the creature, or at least not all of it. We need only look at Galileo and his battle with the standing authority of that time, the Catholic church, to see that governing agencies have no interest in advancing the human race, just keep it content with what they've got. The law did not want to find out more then they already "knew". And they keep the tradition going by ignoring global warming, blaming condoms for aids in Africa, claiming that cannabis is more harmful than cigarettes. Who here would sit silently obedient if the crackpots of the southern states would make it law that creationism be taught alongside evolution?
Like the ten commandments, law enforcement was not the first to say that killing is kind of a bad thing, we knew that already. Being a dick is not something that society in general finds acceptable, we figured that out ourselves. There are of course dicks here and there that do dickish things just because, and they should be treated like dicks, public humiliation is my preferred method of undicking them. I could go on about how the imprisonment system fails miserably but that's not the discussion here.
TL;DR: Point is, law is either redundant (stating the painfully obvious to any rational being), idiotic (stating something downright ridiculous that no man would be able to follow or should not have to follow), or cruel (stating something hateful towards a group or groups of some kind of people).
"Codes of conduct redefine
As justice turns to legal crime
These monsters masked by human features
Are by far the blindest creatures."
-Skyclad - The Ilk of Human Blindness (1993)
Law is a curious thing, created by those above to keep order and civility in our society. But rarely does that hold water for long. Dirty creatures will make their way into power and create laws that weaken their opposition and furthers their own goals. That's the reason I do not follow law but a flexible moral code, "Don't be a dick" is the headline.
"What role did authority or government play in human endeavor for betterment, in invention and discovery? None whatever, or at least none that was helpful. It has always been the individual that has accomplished every miracle in that sphere, usually in spite of the prohibition, persecution and interference by authority, human and divine." Emma Goldman (1869 - 1940)
It is my belief that authority is there to feed itself and keep itself alive as long as possible like any living creature. Law enforces its survival by keeping its food contempt and satisfied. Change and progress is the killer of this creature because often it makes it clear that we don't need the creature, or at least not all of it. We need only look at Galileo and his battle with the standing authority of that time, the Catholic church, to see that governing agencies have no interest in advancing the human race, just keep it content with what they've got. The law did not want to find out more then they already "knew". And they keep the tradition going by ignoring global warming, blaming condoms for aids in Africa, claiming that cannabis is more harmful than cigarettes. Who here would sit silently obedient if the crackpots of the southern states would make it law that creationism be taught alongside evolution?
Like the ten commandments, law enforcement was not the first to say that killing is kind of a bad thing, we knew that already. Being a dick is not something that society in general finds acceptable, we figured that out ourselves. There are of course dicks here and there that do dickish things just because, and they should be treated like dicks, public humiliation is my preferred method of undicking them. I could go on about how the imprisonment system fails miserably but that's not the discussion here.
TL;DR: Point is, law is either redundant (stating the painfully obvious to any rational being), idiotic (stating something downright ridiculous that no man would be able to follow or should not have to follow), or cruel (stating something hateful towards a group or groups of some kind of people).
I live in Ireland. Ireland currently has a Blasphemy law. So, yeah. I treat the law like I treat any other set of rules. To be followed when convenient and ignored at all other times. Also, Imperator_DK [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.386310-How-closely-do-you-adhere-to-the-law#15394315]'s post. Because it was right. Not legal, but right.