How come no one's allowed to hate stuff anymore?
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Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.
I met someone today that didn't like Toy Story. (WTF!!!!)
People are allowed to hate things and I respect that they do but to be honest I don't think you should be particularly bothered if someone doesn't like something you like or even gives you shit about not liking something because at the end of the day only what you like should matter to you. Not what everyone else does/doesn't like.
People are allowed to hate things and I respect that they do but to be honest I don't think you should be particularly bothered if someone doesn't like something you like or even gives you shit about not liking something because at the end of the day only what you like should matter to you. Not what everyone else does/doesn't like.
I apologize for the condescension. I'm just a bit grumpy about being patronized. And I hope that statement doesn't sound like condescension, it wasn't meant to be, I would merely like to draw attention to what I reacted to being patronizing in itself.The_root_of_all_evil said:Very few things cause me hate.
Hate takes up too much energy, though people who label bacon as disgusting are pushing it
The problem is that you're informing them of it. Of course it's not wrong to hate something, but by informing, you're doing exactly the same as those people who worship said things.
Hate it, fine. Love it, fine. But unless it's relevant, or you're off on a rant to yourself, please shush about the stronger emotions. It's like seeing someone pick their nose in front of you.
And watch for condescension. Also a bad idea.Caravaggio said:
(Irony comes free)
You're not getting old, Riddlen; You're just running Windows. Reboot and you'll be fine.theriddlen said:
Regarding hatred and its use/misuse, most hates start out as dislikes and after being questioned umpteen times in the following fashion, "Why don't you like [insert object of dislike here]? It is teh awsum.", the dislike gets associated with people who can't take a hint and blooms into full-fledged hate.
Example? I detest Starbucks coffee. When I originally sampled it, I made a face and vowed never to spend my money on it again. However, when I talk to people who like Starbucks and am asked what my opinion is, I nearly always get a look of stunned disbelief followed by a "How can you say that?" Mildly negative opinion + repetitive negative judgment based on said opinion = a solid loathing of Starbucks coffee.
Oh, and to those who feel an opinion is not a valid reason to hate, let me tell you a little secret: Hatred is an opinion. Same as enjoyment, contentment, dislike, annoyance, and countless other feelings. You have an experience and the emotion you feel is your opinion of that experience. It's your personal take on what just happened. It doesn't have to be reasonable, fair, just, or even coherent. In fact, the less reasoning there is behind an opinion, the more pure that opinion is.
Because Hate can turn you into an asshole.
(courtesy of the Westbro Baptist Church)
As bad as things may seem you just need to keep a cool head and keep things in perspective. Hate makes it too hard to take a step back and weight things up for what they are truly worth, so you and up doing dumb things that hurt what you never intended in the first place.
Hate is an inevitable human emotion, but let it out by vigorous swearing and punching something inanimate, don't let it get to you like the haters.
You can still have an opinion, but keep your cool and always back it up with reasoned intentions, always keeping in mind your intended aims. If you don't like something, by all means criticise it, that's not the same as hate.
(BTW, what are "fag enablers"? Do they mean smokers? Also, also: Colour, Aluminium, Kilometre, black pudding!)
(courtesy of the Westbro Baptist Church)
As bad as things may seem you just need to keep a cool head and keep things in perspective. Hate makes it too hard to take a step back and weight things up for what they are truly worth, so you and up doing dumb things that hurt what you never intended in the first place.
Hate is an inevitable human emotion, but let it out by vigorous swearing and punching something inanimate, don't let it get to you like the haters.
You can still have an opinion, but keep your cool and always back it up with reasoned intentions, always keeping in mind your intended aims. If you don't like something, by all means criticise it, that's not the same as hate.
(BTW, what are "fag enablers"? Do they mean smokers? Also, also: Colour, Aluminium, Kilometre, black pudding!)
Most people see hate as if your saying that what they like is bad and should not be liked, however disliking something is simply stating that it doesn't go down well with you. This is why you're getting a very negative response. You dislike how others are treating for your views but you you do the same to them with hate, why don't you express your dislikes as they are and not through hate.
You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.maiiau said:
Oh you can hate things, but 2 things to remember :
1) Justify why you hate it.
2) It's still YOUR Opinion/Personal Preference; not fact.
By the way, I fucking love bacon and I like iced mocha coffee.
What I don't understand is why no one is willing to defend their dislike of things with a reasonable group of experiences and facts that. I hate when I ask people why they hate Halo and all they can say is "Hur hur hur! Moar liek Gheylo! whatchumadbrah?!?"
1) Justify why you hate it.
2) It's still YOUR Opinion/Personal Preference; not fact.
By the way, I fucking love bacon and I like iced mocha coffee.
What I don't understand is why no one is willing to defend their dislike of things with a reasonable group of experiences and facts that. I hate when I ask people why they hate Halo and all they can say is "Hur hur hur! Moar liek Gheylo! whatchumadbrah?!?"
I love bacon, but I "strongly detest" or "intensely dislike" coffee.
Social tip for Modern Ages: Contrary to popular belief, hate is indeed, a strong word.
When you say you hate something, you "get all up in the grill" or something like that at the people you say it too.
This is why people argue and shun you. You get too up close and personal without easing into it.
If you wish to say that you hate something, you have to have a strong point(s) as to why.
For Example: I hate soda.
Reason: I can't stand sparkling water. While this point may be very simple, it is a strong valid point. It is easily defended to the point where people can accept it.
Defense for "I can't stand sparkling water": It makes the drink really strong and bitter, and it hurts my throat when I try to swallow it. The taste of all the ones I have tried along with the sparkling water make it a not so enjoyable taste in the first place.
Your defense for bacon however: "It is disgusting" is very loose, you need a stronger point to stand by. If that is what you say to people when you try to explain why you don't like bacon, than your doing it wrong.
However, if that is the reason why you don't like it, which seems very plausible, you then need to make it more specific. Even "I don't care for the taste" may get you better results. However, since I absolutely love bacon, I can't really help you with reasons.
Social tip for Modern Ages: Contrary to popular belief, hate is indeed, a strong word.
When you say you hate something, you "get all up in the grill" or something like that at the people you say it too.
This is why people argue and shun you. You get too up close and personal without easing into it.
If you wish to say that you hate something, you have to have a strong point(s) as to why.
For Example: I hate soda.
Reason: I can't stand sparkling water. While this point may be very simple, it is a strong valid point. It is easily defended to the point where people can accept it.
Defense for "I can't stand sparkling water": It makes the drink really strong and bitter, and it hurts my throat when I try to swallow it. The taste of all the ones I have tried along with the sparkling water make it a not so enjoyable taste in the first place.
Your defense for bacon however: "It is disgusting" is very loose, you need a stronger point to stand by. If that is what you say to people when you try to explain why you don't like bacon, than your doing it wrong.
However, if that is the reason why you don't like it, which seems very plausible, you then need to make it more specific. Even "I don't care for the taste" may get you better results. However, since I absolutely love bacon, I can't really help you with reasons.
Once more, I apologize for the casual use of the word hate, only I will restate, I began by telling people that I prefer not to eat bacon, my exact words 90% of the time being "I don't like bacon" then they call me a freak. Then I say it tastes bad and is bad for you. They suggest that the government burn my house down. (not in so many words, but I think they considered it)Treblaine said:Because Hate can turn you into an asshole.
(courtesy of the Westbro Baptist Church)
As bad as things may seem you just need to keep a cool head and keep things in perspective. Hate makes it too hard to take a step back and weight things up for what they are truly worth, so you and up doing dumb things that hurt what you never intended in the first place.
Hate is an inevitable human emotion, but let it out by vigorous swearing and punching something inanimate, don't let it get to you like the haters.
You can still have an opinion, but keep your cool and always back it up with reasoned intentions, always keeping in mind your intended aims. If you don't like something, by all means criticise it, that's not the same as hate.
(BTW, what are "fag enablers"? Do they mean smokers? Also, also: Colour, Aluminium, Kilometre, black pudding!)
Except that you don't get to be a part of that group you claim are being oppressed. "People who aren't interested in things that a group of people feel (are) good" does not describe what you've portrayed yourself as in the least.Caravaggio said:
I'm not gay. As such, I don't have romantic or sexual interest in men. Makes sense, no? But as a result of that, I'm not suddenly entitled to be an oppressed minority if I don't get to say, "I hate gays" without any sort of verbal reprimand.
Because you ''do'' alienate people by spewing venom and bile whenever someone mentions that they like bacon or coffee. In your words:Caravaggio said:
Apparently bacon is unequivocally disgusting. You could have said "I don't like it," but no, instead, you decided that "It's disgusting" and that all of us that do like bacon must have been mistaken for thinking that it tasted good.Caravaggio said:
...and you continue, for some reason. Apparently liking bacon and coffee is grounds for a membership in a cult. It's also apparently grounds to have your opinion invalidated when in the presence of the enlightened Caravaggio.Caravaggio said:
lulz. I'd say the plethora of other words and phrases you used besides 'hate' are more than enough to offend people.Caravaggio said:
Liar. I challenge you to find someone who so espouses the negative of any given item (and phrases it in such a way that anyone who disagrees with him is wrong, an idiot, or both) and doesn't do so with the wish to stop people from using said item.Caravaggio said:
[small]Cupid said:I'm not sure if I'd call these people who gave you such a hard time about your opinion, "friends." Who cares what people like or dislike? I just think people have too much time on their hands to be honest to even think of these things. Are you telling me you would not eat this?
lol, talk about people having too much time on their hands..however, I love bacon, and would have a taste of this for sure!
Mmmmmm, Christianity has never Looked so delicious.... mmmmm, sacrilegious...
Awww, i loved that movie! Any reason as to why you hate it that you could actually explain?shadowstriker86 said:
Thank you so much for being the first person to understand my use of the word hate. (This is not condescension, and if someone posted something like this first I apologize for having skimmed over it).Living Contradiction said: