How come no one's allowed to hate stuff anymore?

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Corjha

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Vhite said:
Hate is offensive. Its attractive emotion, not repulsive. When you hate, you dislike something that much that you actually care about it and want to ruin it even if it costs you something, not just ignore it. If you just dont like some really, really badly then you loathe it, not hate it.
This is why no one's allowed to hate stuff anymore.
 

Caravaggio

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molester jester said:
Not liking bacon and coffee is fine, but the way you write makes me think this is some sort of attempt at a troll. As for your friends it does not sound like you have lost them just that they did not realize how thin skinned you are.
Sorry if I appear to be a troll.

Also, what exactly does thin-skinned imply? I've never hear the term and all I can think of is it being a euphemism for overly-sensitive.
 

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Caravaggio said:
Baneat said:
Caravaggio said:
And coffee, not only does it stain your teeth, but it inhibits the production of dopamine in your brain. And that's important.
Can you cite this? the stain thing's... eh, but the dope part sounds interesting. Don't really need dopamine for anything to be honest, but would still be interesting to read a medical report on it.
About the dopamine: http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/caff.html

Sorry I don't have a citation for the stains. I figured it was common knowledge and did not require such.

Disclaimer: coffee only produces said effects under habitual use, which I would say is pretty common at least in America.
Well, common sense aint worth jack for it, but I was just saying, I truly don't care about that, just wanted some source on the dope.

Gonna read and get back to you.

PS Neuroscience for Kids, oh, you!
 

Baneat

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Caravaggio said:
Your source mentions nothing of dopamine inhibitions...

Disclaimer: as far as I could see (I read the whole thing I'm sure)
 

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Caravaggio said:
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This phenomena is not unheard of. Many people I know say that they don't like a food based on its taste and not its texture. But what I also find is that people who dislike based on texture actually like more foods than not based on their texture, and vice versa with taste.
Example, I enjoy sweet potatoes greatly. I enjoy yams equally as much. This is because I don't care about the taste at all, and the textures of the two vegetables are identical as far as I can tell.
Hilariously, I have a strong dislike for sweet potatoes and yams. Again, taste. I suppose that would make a lot of sense. I do eat a lot of stuff that has questionable texture simply because texture means nothing to me, it's all about taste. But then I get to miss out on (arguably) awesome things like watermelon, raw tomatoes, pickles/cucumbers and many other "common" foods. Their taste simply causes me to lose my appetite, or at least causes them to evacuate my mouth post-haste. Unfortunately, this also means I dislike bland, unseasoned foods. I practically can't eat anything without putting salt in it either (not a lot, I don't pile it on like some people and I never add salt after my food's cooked), but since it's a natural flavour enhancer in the right amounts, it's necessary to all my cooking.
 

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I think I figured out your problem:

Alot of people like bacon and coffee
Alot of people > 1 person

If you dislike something that everyone likes, thats fine. But don't expect people to agree with you on it.
 

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Maybe you need to change your word. Hate.
I hate coffee and bacon to I despise or loath coffee and bacon. Sometimes works better.

As for hating coffee and bacon fine, all the more for me. Well except the coffee part I hate coffee, I loath coffee, I dispise coffee! yet I was still dragged to a coffee festival thing...
 

Caravaggio

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Baneat said:
Caravaggio said:
Baneat said:
Caravaggio said:
And coffee, not only does it stain your teeth, but it inhibits the production of dopamine in your brain. And that's important.
Can you cite this? the stain thing's... eh, but the dope part sounds interesting. Don't really need dopamine for anything to be honest, but would still be interesting to read a medical report on it.
About the dopamine: http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/caff.html

Sorry I don't have a citation for the stains. I figured it was common knowledge and did not require such.

Disclaimer: coffee only produces said effects under habitual use, which I would say is pretty common at least in America.
Well, common sense aint worth jack for it, but I was just saying, I truly don't care about that, just wanted some source on the dope.

Gonna read and get back to you.

PS Neuroscience for Kids, oh, you!
Sorry, that was the wrong link. This one is better: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-caffeine-dependency.htm

This one focuses on the affect of caffeine on adenosine, though it does mention dopamine.
 

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ZombieDarwin said:
i'm with you 100% on the CoD point. i have a particular dislike for war-sims in that i think war is the last thing to be taken lightly and watered down into videogame form. regardless of how "reverent" or "historically accurate" they claim to be, the bottom line, in my eyes, is that war is not fun, it's not a game and shouldnt be treated as such or enjoyed as a recreational activity. millions of ppl getting off on killing each other online not only insults actual soldiers that have fought and are currently fighting in our armed services but also cheapens the concept and consequences of war itself. our lust for war is disgraceful.

i'm also with you that any game worth playing is one that succesfully removes the player from their immediate reality using imagination and innovation. when i game, i dont want anything that i experience in real life involved with it except maybe physics. i'd never play Gran Turismo when i can play Mario Kart. why play fishing or sports games when there's Shadow of the Colossus and Mortal Kombat? i wont even get started about sport-sims coz i hate beating dead horses...unless i'm doing it in an alternate dimension with psychic-fists with a jellybean-eating blob as a sidekick.
I agree on all points :) and thanks for putting into words so eloquently the point that I could only touch upon.
 

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tellmeimaninja said:
I don't see why you'd hate it. Dislike, I understand, but how you're saying it, your making it sound as if these things are the very bane of your existence.
Once more I apologize for the extremity of my word choice. It was hyperbole. I strongly dislike these things, but I hate the fact that it has become acceptable to ridicule someone for disliking these things. That fact was supposed to be in debate here.
 

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http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/drugs-alcohol/caffeine4.htm

That article seems to outline things a little better. Of course, the thing to remember about caffeine is that it only has a 24 hour withdrawal period ;)
 

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TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
I think I figured out your problem:

Alot of people like bacon and coffee
Alot of people > 1 person

If you dislike something that everyone likes, thats fine. But don't expect people to agree with you on it.
I do not always want them to agree with me. I expect them to stop attacking me for my opinion. Occasionally I will be arguing with someone about something with actual facts behind it and they will say something along the lines of: "Well you must be wrong cause you don't even like bacon!"
 

molester jester

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Caravaggio said:
molester jester said:
Not liking bacon and coffee is fine, but the way you write makes me think this is some sort of attempt at a troll. As for your friends it does not sound like you have lost them just that they did not realize how thin skinned you are.
Sorry if I appear to be a troll.

Also, what exactly does thin-skinned imply? I've never hear the term and all I can think of is it being a euphemism for overly-sensitive.
It is, The friends that are shouting about coffee and bacon when you walk in are more than likely just teasing you, it's pretty normal to have this sort of banter, you just seem to have got overly offended by it.
 

Caravaggio

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JamesBr said:
Caravaggio said:
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This phenomena is not unheard of. Many people I know say that they don't like a food based on its taste and not its texture. But what I also find is that people who dislike based on texture actually like more foods than not based on their texture, and vice versa with taste.
Example, I enjoy sweet potatoes greatly. I enjoy yams equally as much. This is because I don't care about the taste at all, and the textures of the two vegetables are identical as far as I can tell.
Hilariously, I have a strong dislike for sweet potatoes and yams. Again, taste. I suppose that would make a lot of sense. I do eat a lot of stuff that has questionable texture simply because texture means nothing to me, it's all about taste. But then I get to miss out on (arguably) awesome things like watermelon, raw tomatoes, pickles/cucumbers and many other "common" foods. Their taste simply causes me to lose my appetite, or at least causes them to evacuate my mouth post-haste. Unfortunately, this also means I dislike bland, unseasoned foods. I practically can't eat anything without putting salt in it either (not a lot, I don't pile it on like some people and I never add salt after my food's cooked), but since it's a natural flavour enhancer in the right amounts, it's necessary to all my cooking.
Now, bland and unseasoned I only have a problem with if the food is accompanied ( as such foods, e. g. chicken, usually are) with dry/thickness. In these cases, I add barbeque sauce, not to liven up the taste, but rather to make it seem more juicy and less chewy.
 

Caravaggio

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molester jester said:
Caravaggio said:
molester jester said:
Not liking bacon and coffee is fine, but the way you write makes me think this is some sort of attempt at a troll. As for your friends it does not sound like you have lost them just that they did not realize how thin skinned you are.
Sorry if I appear to be a troll.

Also, what exactly does thin-skinned imply? I've never hear the term and all I can think of is it being a euphemism for overly-sensitive.
It is, The friends that are shouting about coffee and bacon when you walk in are more than likely just teasing you, it's pretty normal to have this sort of banter, you just seem to have got overly offended by it.
Well it didn't begin bothering me until it was a sort of constant thing. Not only that, but their 'teasing' always led to those uncomfortable moments when every one in the room turn to me in disgust and shout their proclamations of bacon's superiority to man-kind.

I do exaggerate a bit though.
 

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Caravaggio said:
I have the same problem with a lot of stuff (eggs, bacon, hot-dogs, caffeine)

oh and for your coffee argument; coffee has caffeine; caffeine is a drug that actually kills a good number of people each year.
 

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Simskiller said:
Reading OP I had a brain fart: Bacon Flavoured Coffee. IT WILL MAKE MILLIONS!
Don't they already have that on thinkgeek.com?

bacon mints
bacon popcorn
bacon salt
bacon gummies
bacon scented candle
bacon lollipops
bacon bubbles
bacon gum
bacon jelly beans
bacon hot sauce
bacon-naise
bacon canned rations
bacon soap...

Huh, no bacon coffee
 

NezumiiroKitsune

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I am struggling to comprehend someone who is openly omnivorous not wanting bacon. Shun and ridicule you for it though? Well not shun, but if we were friends I might mock you, I wouldn't be being intentionally hurtful though, but I'm getting off topic.

I COMPLETELY (without reserve) agree with you about Call of Duty games and all "realistic shooters". They are absolutely terrible excuses for games and I have no idea what the appeal of them is, besides point, click and grind, and isn't that better on WoW anyway? XD I love unrealistic shooters like Timesplitters and Unreal Tournament though!

How do you feel about tea? I am one of those obsessives but in regards to tea, but AGAIN I have to stress, I can make friends with tea haters. We may argue about tea vs coffee but ultimately we'll still be friends.