How come no one's allowed to hate stuff anymore?

[maiiau]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

As I said, I don't really care about the Beatles all that much, and I don't know their history. But a Google search turns up this list, at least: http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/wiener.htm

 

[Treblaine]

Because Hate can turn you into an asshole.

(courtesy of the Westbro Baptist Church)

As bad as things may seem you just need to keep a cool head and keep things in perspective. Hate makes it too hard to take a step back and weight things up for what they are truly worth, so you and up doing dumb things that hurt what you never intended in the first place.

Hate is an inevitable human emotion, but let it out by vigorous swearing and punching something inanimate, don't let it get to you like the haters.

You can still have an opinion, but keep your cool and always back it up with reasoned intentions, always keeping in mind your intended aims. If you don't like something, by all means criticise it, that's not the same as hate.

(BTW, what are "fag enablers"? Do they mean smokers? Also, also: Colour, Aluminium, Kilometre, black pudding!)

Once more, I apologize for the casual use of the word hate, only I will restate, I began by telling people that I prefer not to eat bacon, my exact words 90% of the time being "I don't like bacon" then they call me a freak. Then I say it tastes bad and is bad for you. They suggest that the government burn my house down. (not in so many words, but I think they considered it)

Sorry OP, I'm just using your title as a springboard.

Shame about your bacon-phobia. But now you can hang out with Jews and Muslims without ANY awkwardness at ALL!

Yep, I realise what I just said.

 

[Ethylene Glycol]

Shame about your bacon-phobia. But now you can hang out with Jews and Muslims without ANY awkwardness at ALL!

Not if he's uncut. [sub]loldongs[/sub]

 

[Caravaggio]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

As I said, I don't really care about the Beatles all that much, and I don't know their history. But a Google search turns up this list, at least: http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/wiener.htm

I just need to point out the irony. Right in the second paragraph it mentions how Elvis had revolutionized pop.

 

[Mcupobob]

I wouldn't be able to go on living if I didn't have bacon and coffee. I have coffee and half or full smoke(depending on my mood) every morning I can. For bacon, well I only have it for small special occasions and such.

But hey you can hate/like whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anybody and those "friends" sound like dushbags. In less it was you who took the argument overboard then its you. I wasn't there so I won't judge.

 

[Orwellian37]

Everyone just needs to chill out about this.

I really hate most fast food, except Freebirds.

 

[Caravaggio]

I feel the need to post this
http://xkcd.com/418/
And yes I've been looked at as some crazed lunatic for actually hating the Beatles by many of my friends and straight yelled at that I'm wrong by people who are not my friends.

YES! The Beatles are bloody awful in my opinion and people need to stop saying that they invented rock. What they did in rock was farther from what rockers have done in the forty years since them then even Elvis. Come now people, see the truth.

Not even that people try to argue that they are better musicians than any of the members in The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin when that is just straight up WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!

Precisely my point!!
The only innovative thing they did at all was be the first to put random noises in the background of their music. And that went out of style after the eighties!

Sir I think I found someone I can actually talk too! Though bacon and coffee would not be in any of our conversations because I love them so much even though I know they're killing me.


P.S.Fuck John Lennon.

I can agree with you guys here. Some of the later stuff they did was ok but nothing great. I've always thought The Beatles were one of the most overrated bands.

> The Beatles are overrated
> Led Zeppelin isn't

what

Exactly!!!! Thank you all for agreeing with me on this.

No, I'm saying you're a fucking moron. I guess I was just a little too subtle for you.

The only "innovation" Led Zeppelin brought to rock music was writing shitty, long-winded, repetitive wankfests about elf cities and vikings sung by a guy who'd go on to inspire countless legions of castrated males to start their own metal bands. They're the single most overrated rock band on the planet, and the only reason no other mainstream band before or since has sounded like them is that they're completely fucking awful. At least the Beatles could sing in tune.

Well then, your opinion is one I disagree with but I must mention that I never once have directly insulted a person on this thread, only the views of a general mass of people. Also I have not yet broken and sworn.

 

[RandomAbuse]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

As I said, I don't really care about the Beatles all that much, and I don't know their history. But a Google search turns up this list, at least: http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/wiener.htm

I just need to point out the irony. Right in the second paragraph it mentions how Elvis had revolutionized pop.

Nobody said that Elvis didn't... just because he did doesn't mean that the Beatles didn't...

 

[maiiau]

snip before we get totally crushed by quotes

And? I didn't say Elvis didn't revolutionize music. You've ignored the point of what I said twice now.

 

[Karlosdj86]

In psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness.

therefore, technically speaking. your friends hate bacon and coffee more than you do.

Can't think of a better way to destroy bacon than eating it, can you?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I apologize for the condescension. I'm just a bit grumpy about being patronized. And I hope that statement doesn't sound like condescension, it wasn't meant to be, I would merely like to draw attention to what I reacted to being patronizing in itself.

That's the thing with text. It's only two-dimensional. If you have time, always re-read what you've written to make sure you can't offend someone with it. (This in itself could be seen to be patronising - but I'm hoping you'll catch the jist.)

If someone does like coffee though, they usually have already weighed the pros/cons in their mind and decided to go with it. Same with bacon. There's few things worse than hearing someone saying "You made the wrong choice!", and that's where the anger comes from.

If you hate coffee, fine. But it's not cool to tell a coffee-lover that. Tell a coffee-hater and get really bitter over a nice cup of tea. But talk to the coffee lover about something like vests. Even Francis doesn't hate vests.

 

[Cupid]

I think the manger is in a pan of Sauerkraut! But yes, the manger has never looked so delicious! It also looks a little scary. lol.

 

[gl1koz3]

Have fun hating their hate. No problem with that. But you beat yourself at your own game there - It's okay for them to hate your hating. It's like running in circles. If you don't want to do that, you end the topic.

Cheers.

 

[Caravaggio]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

As I said, I don't really care about the Beatles all that much, and I don't know their history. But a Google search turns up this list, at least: http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/wiener.htm

I just need to point out the irony. Right in the second paragraph it mentions how Elvis had revolutionized pop.

Nobody said that Elvis didn't... just because he did doesn't mean that the Beatles didn't...

Early I claimed that Elvis was a better innovator than the Beatles, and I'm bringing in evidence to prove the Beatles did that admits Elvis did is situationally ironic, for the act was meant to support the Beatles, while it ended up equally supporting both sides of the argument. Also I personally wish to find proof that the Beatles did other stuff no one had yet.

 

[Caravaggio]

snip before we get totally crushed by quotes

And? I didn't say Elvis didn't revolutionize music. You've ignored the point of what I said twice now.

See above. Merely pointing out irony, argument not initialized.

 

[FexusMaximus]

Honestly, if you do not like something, then yes. As you've edited, hate is a strong word.

But with the responses you've gotten from people in general(in RL, not on here), you've got a good reason not to be fan, besides the facts you stated.

All the same, the facts you DID state, won't got over well with most people...especially the kinds you seem to be around. Not to be rude, but they don't sound like the brightest bunch if they get all angry over you not liking something.

I drink coffee most days, and nab some bacon whenever I CAN...maybe once or twice every 2-3 months. I am a fan of both 'products,' but I will not get angry or rage just because someone like you doesn't like them. That's....pretty immature if you ask me, and you have perfectly valid reasons.

Though to be fair human teeth are naturally kinda yellow-ish. And you should strive for good hygiene anyway.

The only other thing I can add, is that the above stated only applies if you're not going around TELLING EVERYONE you HATE the stuff. If you aren't....which I don't think you are, mind you, then yes, your 'extreme dislike' of such foodstuffs is fine. If you are....well then I suppose I would be kind of annoyed. But not due to liking the stuff, just because that's an annoying thing to do in general.

 

[Songbird-O]

I don't hate anything, aside from a small amount of random things. I can be very critical, though, so I receive a fair bit of backlash every now and then. The thing is, not everyone wants to hear criticism, and some people hate it when people disagree, especially when it is something they are very passionate about. It's up for them to grow up, or you to drop it if the topic isn't worth your time.

 

[Caravaggio]

I apologize for the condescension. I'm just a bit grumpy about being patronized. And I hope that statement doesn't sound like condescension, it wasn't meant to be, I would merely like to draw attention to what I reacted to being patronizing in itself.

That's the thing with text. It's only two-dimensional. If you have time, always re-read what you've written to make sure you can't offend someone with it. (This in itself could be seen to be patronising - but I'm hoping you'll catch the jist.)

If someone does like coffee though, they usually have already weighed the pros/cons in their mind and decided to go with it. Same with bacon. There's few things worse than hearing someone saying "You made the wrong choice!", and that's where the anger comes from.

If you hate coffee, fine. But it's not cool to tell a coffee-lover that. Tell a coffee-hater and get really bitter over a nice cup of tea. But talk to the coffee lover about something like vests. Even Francis doesn't hate vests.

You're right about the 2 dimensional thing. Only if there were more, that would involve actual face to face communication, with no pause to think and no one who could moderate fast enough. (Not argument, merely observation)

 

[Caravaggio]

In psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness.

therefore, technically speaking. your friends hate bacon and coffee more than you do.

Can't think of a better way to destroy bacon than eating it, can you?

Nice comment about Freud. Many people (including me) believe that Freud was bit messed up when he hypothesized all of his claims. You know, because of the heroin addiction and all of that.

 

[beniki]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

Logic is subjective, and facts are alterable.

The way you are wording your responses is implying that you posses more facts, and that whilst your opinion is based on logic, the other persons is not, and therefore less valid.

The language you are using is abrasive. You call people childish, and keep re-directing points to well trodden territory where you are comfortable you can win, such as the healthiness of bacon, and the legitimacy of the Beatles creating rock and roll. You see these minor victories as proof of your own intelligence.

You are afraid to actually confront the real point of the person you are quoting.

In short, you're no fun.

... Then again, you can save yourself with answering the most important question of all.

You like marmite?