Not all that disturbed since I've seen it before. When I saw it the first time it made me uncomfortable, but I soon got over it.
How disturbed where you when you saw todays Jimquisition?
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the wiki page has no graphic picturesProtoChimp said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer
It disturbed me a little, precisely because it didn't feature the showers of gore I've gotten used to thanks to horror films. It's the sharp and stark contrast between what we think is likely to happen and what actually happens that really got to me.
The suicide itself, though? Not terribly hard on the eyes. I've seen worse, with regularly popping by my mother's workplace. Some elderly folks die in pretty indignant conditions that are *seriously* hard to stomach.
The suicide itself, though? Not terribly hard on the eyes. I've seen worse, with regularly popping by my mother's workplace. Some elderly folks die in pretty indignant conditions that are *seriously* hard to stomach.
Well I'm going to be honest about it.
I'll admit that I'm not as shocked of this as i should be,
but after all the things i have seen and done in my life I find that clip, distant to me, at best.
All I see in that clip is a man; a stranger, some one that is of no consequence to me coming to an end.
I still have great respect for human life and I live a non violent live style but in the end we all must face death, one way or another.
I'll admit that I'm not as shocked of this as i should be,
but after all the things i have seen and done in my life I find that clip, distant to me, at best.
All I see in that clip is a man; a stranger, some one that is of no consequence to me coming to an end.
I still have great respect for human life and I live a non violent live style but in the end we all must face death, one way or another.
Simply watching the footage did not disturb me. However, when I think about it more, it does become saddening and quite disturbing. We all watched the moment that a human being, a collection of thoughts and memories, much like ourselves, snuffed out in an instant. It's a dark reminder of the fragility of human life. I find the thought of a death being recorded on film quite disturbing as well, as I think of death as one of the most private events in a persons life, and having recorded and watched over and over again seems to me to be the ultimate perversion of video technology. Watching the vid made me think of the way that many tribes thought cameras stole your soul, as in a way, isn't that what the Dwyer footage has done to him?
i saw a gif of it years ago... And I always assumed it was a scene from a movie, because the gif gave the impression he was smiling right before he pulled the trigger.
When I later found the article about it on Wikipedia, my reaction was just "Oh, that was real? Hmm".
I couldn't bring myself to watch the actual footage though .
When I later found the article about it on Wikipedia, my reaction was just "Oh, that was real? Hmm".
I couldn't bring myself to watch the actual footage though .
I feel terrible for saying this but I don't care. I feel like I am desensitized against violence. Trust me I'm a monster.
This hasn't been the first time I have watched people die on camera. As part of our IED training in the military, we were required to watch two videos of IEDs and their devastating effects. One video included a graphic scene in Turkey where a police officer was blown up by an IED in a crowd of people and the chaos in the following seconds that ensued before the video ended. While I can say that the videos I watched in training were quite disturbing, there was just something about this man's death that makes me feel different than I did the day on training; something a tad more unsettling I suppose. I don't know how to describe it. It's never easy seeing anybody lose their life, and I can guarantee you just like anybody else who has witnessed or actually experienced true violence that there is not a single damn thing that a video game or Hollywood flick can ever replicate to the extent that an actual act of violence is.
OT: The effects that the video depicting Mr. Dwyer's untimely and horrific death (and any other real act of violence, in person or on camera) have on the mind can never be replicated by any form of media.
OT: The effects that the video depicting Mr. Dwyer's untimely and horrific death (and any other real act of violence, in person or on camera) have on the mind can never be replicated by any form of media.
Well I would have been more disturbed, but I've already seen a man shoot himself in the head on the internet (different guy, and I was pretty darn disturbed when I saw that one, especially considering it was far more.....graphic. Lasting too. There was a good 15 seconds of just seeing him dead, in a fully lighted room). This time, I was at least mentally prepared for it (As much as one can be in such instances). Doesn't make it any less gruesome or tragic, but at least this time I didn't feel utterly sick to my stomach.ShadowRatchet92 said:
I get the feeling I'm a bit more disconnected to it than some other people here too. At least we can both be monsters together.Cedric Rolle III said:
I don't play violence video games or anything though, so who knows where that comes from?
I was a bit unsettled to see that it didn't affect me much. When I saw it a second time, I felt more of a pang of remorse for the guy. Perhaps I wasn't paying full attention the first time. Still, I know what Jim is talking about. My acclimation to video game violence has turned me off to both real world guns, and real world fighting. I enjoy watching fighting games and playing FPSs, but I get bored fast while watching Ultimate Fighting or shooting a real gun. Guns are so inconvenient, and fighting just isn't as fun without those "thwack" sounds.
Read his wiki page, its not graphic and the end suggest he might have actually been framed.ProtoChimp said:
One of the witnesses used to convict him admitted to lying after the guy shot himself.
I haven't even watched it, and I feel chilled just reading through this thread.
A few years back I discovered ED and the infamous "Offended" page... unlike most, it didn't desensitize me. If anything, it made me more sensitive to violence. One of the gifs I saw, which I shan't describe, chills me to the very core every time I remember it. Thinking about it now makes me feel ill. I'd seen other shock images and videos before, but after Offended, I just couldn't bear any more. I know that I don't want to see that footage, or any of the others mentioned in the thread.
Conversely, video game violence doesn't bother me. I happy murder the hell out of towns in Fable or Morrowind, beat people to death in Saints Row, splatter someones head in Condemned and laugh as their teeth go flying in a cloud of gore. I'll burn whole families in their houses in The Sims. I can walk unfased through the scenes of medical torture in Sanitarium. I know its fake.
There's something about seeing REAL death and REAL violence that... games just can't prepare you for. Like how fast blood moves, or how quickly a person can switch from living to dead (compared to the "dying" animation a lot of games have where the person sort of stumbles to the floor). The horror and panic in a real creature terrified for its life seconds before it ends. In a game you know you can load your last save and they'll be back, but when it's real... knowing that the blood and the body are all that are left of the whole of a person or an animals life, the sum of their experiences snuffed out, irreversibly, in an instant. That chills me.
A few years back I discovered ED and the infamous "Offended" page... unlike most, it didn't desensitize me. If anything, it made me more sensitive to violence. One of the gifs I saw, which I shan't describe, chills me to the very core every time I remember it. Thinking about it now makes me feel ill. I'd seen other shock images and videos before, but after Offended, I just couldn't bear any more. I know that I don't want to see that footage, or any of the others mentioned in the thread.
Conversely, video game violence doesn't bother me. I happy murder the hell out of towns in Fable or Morrowind, beat people to death in Saints Row, splatter someones head in Condemned and laugh as their teeth go flying in a cloud of gore. I'll burn whole families in their houses in The Sims. I can walk unfased through the scenes of medical torture in Sanitarium. I know its fake.
There's something about seeing REAL death and REAL violence that... games just can't prepare you for. Like how fast blood moves, or how quickly a person can switch from living to dead (compared to the "dying" animation a lot of games have where the person sort of stumbles to the floor). The horror and panic in a real creature terrified for its life seconds before it ends. In a game you know you can load your last save and they'll be back, but when it's real... knowing that the blood and the body are all that are left of the whole of a person or an animals life, the sum of their experiences snuffed out, irreversibly, in an instant. That chills me.
I was quite disturbed by it. To be honest, even if games were that realistic (some films have been fairly close actually), I wouldn't be as disturbed, because I still know it's not real. Knowing that that's a real guy really blowing his brains out was pretty shocking. When I saw it my brain had a hard time thinking that was actually what a guy shooting himself looks like.
I wasn't disturbed, but I've spent far too much time on the internet for shock content to do anything.