How do people stay thin?

Slayer_2

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Mastodonic said:
Slayer_2 said:
Mastodonic said:
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A great metabolism. I eat McDonalds at least a few times a week, and rarely eat healthy "It's been 5 weeks since my last vegetable..."
Rubbish. You burn on avg 2000 calories a day depending on your weight. A big mac only has 540 calories. So the avg person could eat 3 to 4 big macs a day and gain no weight. It has fuck all to do with "metabolism" and everything to do with MATH!

calories in - calories used = net loss/gain

The End.
You can't do math without accurate stats. You have no idea what my meal is. Also, factor in that I don't just eat one meal a day, try 2-3 and 1-2 snacks.
Accurate stats and examples didnt appear to be a factor when you offered up your original anecdote about metabolism and how it directly applied to your situation. You were happy to make vague references to you unhealthy diet without any numbers as testamony to your "amazing metabolism". At least I offered a real example of how an unhealthy diet would not contribute to weight gain regardless of metabolism.
All these anecdotes about "godly metabolisms" and "being able to eat all the crap i want" are bunk and deeply steeped in misconceptions of what "a lot" really means in terms of calories burnt and calories consumed.

It's lazy and misinformed. Barring genetic disorder or regular exercise, no one has a faster or slower metabolism that accounts for weight gain/loss. It is entirely calories in, calories used. you can speed up your metabolism by putting on muscle mass and exercising but suggesting any reference to a "naturally fast" metabolism is a myth.
Just because I didn't list out all my food intake over a week, and my exercise, my opinion is invalid? I'm sorry, I suppose you've been living in my body for the past 19 years. I know what I eat in the average week, I always get told what would happen if most people tried eating my meals if they were say... 25 or 30. Even some people my age (usually overweight) or younger ***** at me, telling me I'm so lucky that I can eat that way. So your idea is everyone has the same metabolism? I find that hard to believe since I've TRIED putting on weight, and couldn't gain a pound. Then I have fat friends who avoid soda and fast food like the devil, and are still 200+ pounds.

A few years ago, you could have argued that it was because I got a lot more exercise, but now I barely have time for any, so it's not like my body is consuming a lot of calories for that reason.

P.S. Out of curiosity, if I maintained the same exercise and diet habits for the next few decades, do you REALLY think that I will maintain the same weight? I want to know how illogical you are.

Owyn_Merrilin said:
Slayer_2 said:
A great metabolism. I eat McDonalds at least a few times a week, and rarely eat healthy "It's been 5 weeks since my last vegetable..."
How do people do this? It's only been a few days since my last vegetable, and I feel terrible because my body isn't getting all of the nutrients it's expecting.
I dunno, I think my body has just adapted to it. If starving people can survive on scraps of bread, I'm sure I can make it by without veggies.
 

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I've wanted to lose weight for a while now, and I have tried nearly everything (except diet pills and starving, I have my standards). The weird thing is that quite a few people I know tend to stay thin despite regularly eating burger king and such. I know some of them do work out, but some (like my girlfriend) somehow can stay thin without working out and despite apparently eating a lot (hell, I'm in much worse shape than my girlfriend, yet I have an easier time walking, thank you Mini-Boot Camp). I gotta ask, when it comes to those people, what's their secret?
If you drink a lot of Soda pops, juices, and anything with a high sugar content, you can eliminate them from your diet for relatively swift results. I drink those VitaWater-Zeros for my "sweet drink" now, and I'm better off for it.
 

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Kytseo said:
I've wanted to lose weight for a while now, and I have tried nearly everything (except diet pills and starving, I have my standards). The weird thing is that quite a few people I know tend to stay thin despite regularly eating burger king and such. I know some of them do work out, but some (like my girlfriend) somehow can stay thin without working out and despite apparently eating a lot (hell, I'm in much worse shape than my girlfriend, yet I have an easier time walking, thank you Mini-Boot Camp). I gotta ask, when it comes to those people, what's their secret?
well for me i just dont feel hungry in the morning so i drink alot, and then i have a small lunch and a big dinner/ snacks at night. it isn't healthy but im 6'2 and 150 lbs. My advice is just to try to have smaller meals spread out during the day, keeps you full longer and reduces snacking and eating alot at one time. Or go to college/university on a budget lol.
 

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Really simple actually, don't snack, it works well, oh and a daily exercise of some sort works well.
 

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Not eating, duh, thats why "skinny" people are usually thin,
but you wanna be fit which requires diet and exercise.

Just chalking it up to your "metabolism" is confusing for some because it means catabolism(building of molecules, in this case fat) which correlates to how much you eat vs anabolism(breakdown of molecules for e, again fat) which pertains to exercise.

Building muscles always helps along with casual cardio.
 

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AVOID WHEAT. wheat's being healthy is a big misconception.
avoid high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, sugar, dairy, white rice, cream... (a lot of things white)

embrace... oats, brown rice, millet, egg, kale, omega 3, potato, avocado, sprouted grain bread (look them up), etc.


edit: also... don't be afraid of butter. use it all you want. just avoid that "I can't believe its not butter!" crap. and speaking of butter, avoid margarine as well.
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^^^ That and the fact that they probably skip some meals, as long as you get enough vitamins and minerals then you actually don't need the calories that three meals a day provide.
Zetion said:
Yeah. I cut out soda and processed carbs and the weight melted right off. You'd be surprised OP.
Mallefunction said:
Your friends who can eat what they want are lucky. I'm like you as well. I have to work out 5 times a week for 2 hours and even then I'm still 20 pounds heavier than where I want to be (I'm at the high spectrum of a healthy weight for my height and age so I'd rather be in the low spectrum if I can help it)

Don't try to go for unrealistic goals though. I remember even as a kid I had thighs that touched. I was a STICK, but my thighs never had space between. So I don't expect to ever be one of those thinspo girls 5 inches of nothing between their thighs because I was never like that even when I was a kid and had a faster metabolism and ran around a lot more.

Just keep exercising and try to do short bouts of cardio. No tread mill shit unless it's for just 5 minutes straight (running, not walking) and then go back to weights. Then after a while, do another short but hard burst of cardio.

Also, whatever you do, don't avoid things like fat, carbs, butter, etc. If you make a baked potato, feel free to stick some butter on that *****. Our bodies need those fats and oils and depriving them of it will not help you lose weight in a healthy manner.

What you WANT to avoid is processed and fast food. I recommend picking up a cook book or even learning to make some fast simple meals on the stove. I am addicted to my rice cooker (Rice in 30 minutes and I add whatever flavorings and veggies I want to that) for meals and rice is really damn cheap in bulk...also pretty much keeps for a long ass time (pasta as well)

Anyway, that's my recommendation. Hope it helped!
This is all incorrect. Dont listen to a word of it. Everyone who said "metabolism" wasn't paying attention to the question.


Scytail said:
Personally I switched to smaller (and healthier food) portions and a little bit of exercise. Little yoga and freeweight stuff and Ive dropped from 250lbs to almost 200lbs. Wasnt fast but I feel better about myself and life now. Oh, and water! sweet delicious water, cut out all soft drinks!
theemporer said:
x EvilErmine x said:
^^^ That and the fact that they probably skip some meals, as long as you get enough vitamins and minerals then you actually don't need the calories that three meals a day provide.
I hear that skipping meals can cause your body to store more fat, so that it can survive another long period without food.
The Last Parade said:
if you eat several small healthy meals by day your metabolism will quicken, that'll help =)
This is all correct.

The short answer is diet, exercise and DISCIPLINE. It takes self determination to improve your health.

To elaborate: You must eat roughly 2000 calories per day (give or take depending on your genetics.) Eating less will not make you lose weight, not unless you are literally starving yourself, which would be stupid and extremely unhealthy. Instead of eating 3 meals per day, eat 6 small meals per day that add up to 2000 calories. Its hard at first, but eventually you'll find that you cant even eat large meals anymore. Your diet needs to be balanced. Make sure you are getting sufficient carbohydrates, protein, lipids, and water. All of these things are necessary to survive, but they must be consumed in proper proportion. Cutting any of them out will cause your body to react negatively. Everything you have heard about cutting out carbs and all that nonsense is just crap people make up to sell books. Getting in shape is not easy, but if someone says that they have a method that IS easy, people will listen to them. They are full of shit though. Also, make sure you take a quality multivitamin. Even if you are eating vegetables and such, a good multivitamin will provide you with specific amino acids that will aid with your recovery and endurance.

As far as exercise goes, you dont have to kill yourself. I do personally, but thats my personal decision. I train in Mixed Martial Arts, so its kind of necessary. Jogging is enough for some people, but if you want to look better in addition to improving your health, you need to do specific exercises. Pick a program and stick to it. Buy a workout DVD you see on an infomercial if you want. They all work.

Sleep is also important. Get 8 hours of sleep every night. Two 4 hour stretches is also fine, even if they're broken up. Getting more than 8 hours is bad, but getting less than 8 is significantly worse. There are certain processes that your body can only perform properly while you sleep.

Last but not least is supplements. I take Mass XXX and creatine. I use a lot less of both than the label (and GNC employees) say to take. I DON'T recommend taking nitric oxide enhancers. I make small shakes and use them as meal substitutes, particularly the meals that immediately follow my workouts. Here is how I take creatine: First off DON'T LOAD!!! This is very bad. It stifles your body's natural production of creatine. This process produces several extremely important byproducts you need. Some of them are only produced in this way. What I do is take half doses for one week. Then I take full doses for 2 weeks. Then I take half doses for another week. Then I take a month off. Repeat.
i would really like to know what I said is incorrect considering I lost 30 pounds from January
 

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It's not just to do with what you eat etc. It also involves metabolism

Low motabolism - endomorph, fat people
Medium metabolism - mesomorph, muscly people
High metabolism - ectomorph, skinny people

People with high metabolisms can eat loads and stay skinny, because their body processes the food so fast, but not a lot is absorbed by the body, hence the skinnyness. But people with low metabolisms can eat less but stay fat.

Fitness videos can help a lot (sounds wierd but hear me out). I started a program called Insanity about two months ago. Since then my metabolism has sky-rocketed. I was an endomorph because I didn't do a lot when I was younger, but now I'm more of a mesomorph.

If you want to work out, you have to give your all. Otherwise your metabolism won't increase. As for food, just keep an eye on what you eat.
 

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There really is no skill behind it...just naturally thin *eats iced mince pie*

Though I am expecting to wake up one night when I'm 30 and find I've turned into the Blob.
 

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I happen to also have a poor metabolism, and I found that I need a lot of exercise to stay within an acceptable weight. tried eating healthy, and dieting, but alone it never worked. I think that if just eating healthy isn't working for you, you should figure out a work out plan. Don't start off too hard, but make sure you push yourself. There is a good chance it will suck, and a good chance it will hurt. You might even get injured, but run, do situps, pushups and pullups, and you really should have the basics. Make sure you make it a routine, it needs to be planned and consistent. One of the hardest parts to loosing weight is to keep with it. You might want to create a circuit for yourself, and break up strength workouts across the day, but make sure that they get done. Another way to get in work outs is to do something like watch tv or video games, but whenever there is a loading screen or a commercial do situps or curls or pushups or what have you. The hardest part will be stick with it.
 

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Best method is to eat less meat, more vegetables.

-vegetables are better than fruit since fruit is full of sugar. The only fruits of low sugar are tomatoes, eggplant and capsicum (peppers).
-best vegetables are leafy green vegetables and other above ground ones, under ground tubers like yams and potatoes are starchy and fattening, carrots are good.
-Nuts have a lot of energy. One peanut has enough energy for an hour sitting at a desk... Best avoid nuts.
-red meat is only needed once a week, or even a few times a month. Supplement your diet with mushrooms and lentils if you are lacking protein or excercize lots.
-Avoid white meats (pork and chicken), eggs are fine.
-kangaroo and game bird are all low in fat and so are good meat alternatives, they are also better in other ways. Careful with seafood, some is good, some is not.
-flavour can easily be enhanced by spices (not salt)
-if you are eating lots of green veges then dairy is not required, green plants have plenty of calcium.

Finally, a meal should not exceed 500g with maximum 1kg a day (and even this is genenerous for an average westerner) The exception to this is if you are an athelete or in work with strong physical demands, professional atheletes often need two or three times this amount.
 

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Kytseo said:
I've wanted to lose weight for a while now, and I have tried nearly everything (except diet pills and starving, I have my standards). The weird thing is that quite a few people I know tend to stay thin despite regularly eating burger king and such. I know some of them do work out, but some (like my girlfriend) somehow can stay thin without working out and despite apparently eating a lot (hell, I'm in much worse shape than my girlfriend, yet I have an easier time walking, thank you Mini-Boot Camp). I gotta ask, when it comes to those people, what's their secret?
I would say metabolism, long work hours, lots of stress and extraordinary self contempt. Whenever I eat too much, I feel nothing but guilt and self-loathing (both physically and psychologically) and so I don't eat for a day or two ... and wallah, approximately 17.2 BMI ...

So ... guilt and self loathing. Works wonders ... if you'd like a crash course in guilt and self loathing, convert to Catholicism and we'll have you guilt tripping about all your joys in no time flat!
 

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Diet and exercise. It takes time to get your body used to a different diet. But it is the healthiest way than starving or doing pills and losing weight in a few weeks. Its a life change not 2 weeks salad and then back to bacon rolls.
 

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Being thin has nothing to do with being in good shape. Skinny people can be just as unhealthy as heavy people. Weight has more to do with metabolism than anything. Skinny people tend to have a naturally fast metabolism. The other thing is body type, which effects where muscle and fat accumulate on your body. Some people have a hard time putting on any weight, be it fat or muscle mass. The opposite effect means some people can build all the muscle they want, but it always has a layer of fat on top of it.

If you want to change your metabolism, practice cardio. The harder your heart is working, the faster you're burning calories. Also, don't eat at Burger King, or any fast food places.
 

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Be twitchy. Seriously. A lot of research says that it isn't so much a faster metabolism that is often why thin people stay thin, they are in fact fidgety people. It comes down to calories used during the day, and often being fidgety could burn as much as 500 calories.

Other than that - generally calorie counting works well and allows slow, correct weight loss. If you have a smartphone (Android, BB, Win7 or iOS) there are apps for calorie counting, they can even use the barcode to scan in the nutrition details. Cut about 500-700 calories off your intake and you're good to go.
 

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How do people gain weight? Every time I eat anything it just dissolves immediately. Though I suppose I'd rather be thin than obese. Gotta love that athlete's metabolism.
 

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Well, daily exercise, a good diet, and maybe some vitamins always do the trick.

If not, genes and an outstanding metabolism.

I goes either way, really.