How do you feel about PC games that require Steam installed?
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Furburt said:
It should install from the disc, if its dowloading, its either decided the discs damaged, or is patching, or very ocassionally its forgotten its got a disc.
It generally says it does, they have every right to decide how to make their game and what tools to use. If you don't liek those choices then don't buy it.-Samurai- said:
Steam offers alot more than DRM and distribution.
Well steam is free and you can play your games on any computer with steam as long as the computer is good enough for the game to work. Also everytime you login you get to see what new games or demos have been released and can buy them easily from steam. Nothing wrong with that according to me.
Kaymish said:
Or, you know, have already cracked the living fuck out of it.
If Valve were to disappear off the face of the Earth tomorrow all that would happen is a lot of nerd angst, a run on google for steam cracks and Brad Wardell going "Now it's Zoidberg's turn to be the popular one!"
My main concern is this new steam thing they're putting in games which makes them Steam only, I think a monopoly is nearly always bad, and cutting out the competition is an unfair business practice. I LIKE Steam, and I think it's an excellent service, but don't think they should be pulling stuff like this to cut out D2D and the like completely.
I hated Steam because Valve forced me to create an account when I bought HL2. Man was I wrong.
Steam is great and now I don't have to search for my games because they're all in one place.
And I don't have to search for patches when I install a game (plus the install process is really simple, just download and play).
Steam is great and now I don't have to search for my games because they're all in one place.
And I don't have to search for patches when I install a game (plus the install process is really simple, just download and play).
Well, since Steam is the only place I get my PC games from, then that is just fine with me. I'm not a big PC gamer, anyway. But really, getting PC games from elsewhere is becoming increasingly difficult - I was awestruck (as was a friend of mine) when we discovered that there were absoloutely no PC games in the EB we were in.
1) Steam adds a bunch of things that makes playing games easier, even after you buy and download them. Steam was the only reason I could tolerate MW2 Multiplayer.
2) You can't resell the game? I mean, maybe if your peddling games to close friends, who in all likelihood you would just lend the game too, selling PC games is kind of like selling used gum. Someone out there has already registered the game, used the key, etc.
3) Steam is not that intrusive.
Personally, I hope more games require steam, because it gives some standardization to a platform that desperately needs it to stay competitive.
2) You can't resell the game? I mean, maybe if your peddling games to close friends, who in all likelihood you would just lend the game too, selling PC games is kind of like selling used gum. Someone out there has already registered the game, used the key, etc.
3) Steam is not that intrusive.
Personally, I hope more games require steam, because it gives some standardization to a platform that desperately needs it to stay competitive.
I love steam, anybody bothering to check out my profile would know that.
However, It is mostly due to the current management at ValvE
However, It is mostly due to the current management at ValvE
I used to be incredibly bothered by this, but I've been using it a lot lately. Don't know why, but I guess it grew on me. It has incredibly useful little features. Of course, the downside is that I routinely have to weather temptation as Steam often dangles incredible deals (that's how I got the Guild Trilogy at half price). But, it's not the huge evil I thought it was. That, or I guess I went over to the Dark Side.
I think the ?30 or more price cuts on games during the weekend deals(speaking of which, civ 4 complete is ?10 right now, go get it!)and midweek madness, along with the autopatching, download service, good troubleshooting help and the improved client(less then 1% cpu load idle, peak is 3%) more then makes up for the occasional hiccup, which seem to be left behind along with the year 2009 as it works flawlessly now.
Considering how steam stands out in an industry full of heavy handed DRM as both an effective measure of DRM, but also an easily accessible one that neither directly offends the gaming community, nor closes sales as a result I have to say I do very much like it.
Unfortunately it does, in MW2's case you don't really get anything back for your trouble either.gold_digger22 said:
In principle I dislike that aspect of Steam, but I see it as a necessary evil, seeing as it keeps my games up to date autoamtically and works as a social network, not to mention that Valve's games at least come iwth shedloads of free stuff after you buy them.
I don't mind having to have Steam on a game, as most publishers are coming up with their own systems as well, which universally suck. So far Steam is the only one of these remote DRM dealies to actually have any payback to offer the player.
No resale is a downside to digital rights management (for us), on the other hand everything on Steam can be cracked including Steam if you really, really want to. So unlike Xbox Live you don't lose the ability to play the game should Steam shut down or the game stops being supported.
But I would rather just have the plus points of Steam.
I don't see the problem with Steam, the amount of times that I would say "hmm... I fancy playing x game when I get home today, oh wait I live at University so I don't have the storage space to keep my assortment of games so I've left the disc(s) back at home" would be numerous if Steam wasn't around.
Yes, they sometimes rip you off for buying new games but I tend to wait for the offers and stick them on the backburner so I have something to play when there aren't offers on or otherwise I like to have backups in case I lose my discs and/or I prefer playing games on my PC. Those Rockstar deals were a good example, despite myself owning GTA1, 3, Vice City, San Andreas, Max Payne 1 + 2 and Manhunt I waited throughout the week for each to be individually reduced so instead of spending £30 that included games that I had for my xbox360 (which I have at Uni) I picked up the previously mentioned games for a grand total of £7.98 that enabled me to play it on my device of choice whenever/wherever (provided I had an internet connection unless it was already installed) with the piece of mind of not having to remember if I have the discs.
I also talked my housemates into buying the L4D2 four-pack when it was on offer the other week so picked that up for £10.04 as well as getting that Hitman/Deus Ex pack for ~£10 a couple of months ago. That's given me 14 games to tide me over the Summer and future nostalgia playings whenever I have the urge because I can get them on demand
Yes, they sometimes rip you off for buying new games but I tend to wait for the offers and stick them on the backburner so I have something to play when there aren't offers on or otherwise I like to have backups in case I lose my discs and/or I prefer playing games on my PC. Those Rockstar deals were a good example, despite myself owning GTA1, 3, Vice City, San Andreas, Max Payne 1 + 2 and Manhunt I waited throughout the week for each to be individually reduced so instead of spending £30 that included games that I had for my xbox360 (which I have at Uni) I picked up the previously mentioned games for a grand total of £7.98 that enabled me to play it on my device of choice whenever/wherever (provided I had an internet connection unless it was already installed) with the piece of mind of not having to remember if I have the discs.
I also talked my housemates into buying the L4D2 four-pack when it was on offer the other week so picked that up for £10.04 as well as getting that Hitman/Deus Ex pack for ~£10 a couple of months ago. That's given me 14 games to tide me over the Summer and future nostalgia playings whenever I have the urge because I can get them on demand