Except it just doesn't happen... and everyone is very suspicious of "Psst, wanna buy this Steam account? It's got Saint's Row 2 on it!"strigoivii said:
How do you feel about PC games that require Steam installed?
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I'm not saying sell the steam account I'm saying sell the disc, and its retail box and give them the account details. so I start a new game say "civilisation 8" so I start an email address called CIV8 @ gmail.com I start a steam account called CIV8ID using the gmail account and the details of those 2 accounts go with the retail box. every new game the title changes on the gmail and steam accounts accordingly and sooner or later charges would appear for steam accounts or accounts would be frozen which either way would stop future sales of software linked to steam. Personally I can understand a need for online gaming although having watched my mate repetetively run to the same locations, get the same weapons, plant the same mines in the same places and look through the same sniper holes 60 or 70 times in 1 afternoon, it has no appeal to me whatsoever, but he loves it. So sell single player content on discs and only multiplayer through DRM's like Steam(ing pile of crap). that way Everyone is happy. People who like steam can pay again and again and again for DLC and I have a one off product that I can resale and recoup some of the costs.
I don't think you can sell any PC game later (idk about every store's policy so I might be wrong)gold_digger22 said:
OT: I don't mind Steam at all. In fact I haven't bought a game from anywhere but Steam for well over a year.
Personally? Digital distribution is a horrible thing in my book. Yes its easier and yes its cheaper for the publisher.
But first off, why should I care about a publishers profit margins when they are already in the billions of dollar mark? Why should I give publishers a medium to deliver marketing and ads to me? Why should I give up physical ownership of something Ive paid for. It lets the publisher secretly get another claw in to destroy the Used/rental market which for some reason they think they are entitled to do so.
The whole concept of digital distribution reminds me of the US move to create the federal reserve and abandon the gold standard for money. If that is any example what is our digital property going to be worth in 10, 20 , 30 years? Just consider a 500$ bill from pre fed reserve gold standard days is worth roughly 6500$ today.
Its willingly giving up the right to ownership and devaluing physical property, in favor of what is perceived as convenience, which really seems like a bad idea
But first off, why should I care about a publishers profit margins when they are already in the billions of dollar mark? Why should I give publishers a medium to deliver marketing and ads to me? Why should I give up physical ownership of something Ive paid for. It lets the publisher secretly get another claw in to destroy the Used/rental market which for some reason they think they are entitled to do so.
The whole concept of digital distribution reminds me of the US move to create the federal reserve and abandon the gold standard for money. If that is any example what is our digital property going to be worth in 10, 20 , 30 years? Just consider a 500$ bill from pre fed reserve gold standard days is worth roughly 6500$ today.
Its willingly giving up the right to ownership and devaluing physical property, in favor of what is perceived as convenience, which really seems like a bad idea
To all who love steam... more power to you but I don't play multi player and all my friends are tangible people that I see face to face to talk with. I have no need, desire or liking for it so why should I suffer?
Hooray!!! I had no idea how ENORMOUS the anti steam community is and as such I have found software that allows me to install my games without the dreaded 3rd party steam software or even an internet connection... it simply emulates the connection so no worries over lag, no worries over downloads going on in the background no more unwanted updates or reconnecting I can just buy and play my games again without steam..... Parity restored and life is sweet once more. Although I still think it easier if they just make single player games on disc and multiplayer versions only available online.
I use and love Steam, however I'm against forced activation of any kind. There are people who don't want Steam and don't need it. People who want nothing to do with it. And its a pretty sizable group. They won't use Steam for anything, so all it'll do is sit there, take up space, and use resources. And yes I know Steam barely uses any resources, but when you won't use it for anything, thats what it does.
Consumers should have a choice. And forcing them to use any system, no matter how good or bad it is, is wrong.
I wish more games would go the Unreal Tournament 3 route with activation systems, where you can choose to install it using Steam if you want, but you don't need to do so to play the game.
Consumers should have a choice. And forcing them to use any system, no matter how good or bad it is, is wrong.
I wish more games would go the Unreal Tournament 3 route with activation systems, where you can choose to install it using Steam if you want, but you don't need to do so to play the game.
I love Steam. I haven't bought a physical copy of a PC game in years.
No worrying about CD keys getting lost, misplacing CDs, ect. Just log in, download, and enjoy.
No worrying about CD keys getting lost, misplacing CDs, ect. Just log in, download, and enjoy.
I'm very much a fan of Steam, but with one disclaimer:
Any kinda of monopoly can be a bad thing, and I don't like it when something uses Steamworks and then can't be sold by any other digital distributor. Just means no competition, and while I think Steam are a pretty damn fine company, they could turn eeeevil... or be bought out by EA or Activision, which is pretty much the same thing.
Having said that, I've got about 100 games on Steam, so I'm not too worried
Any kinda of monopoly can be a bad thing, and I don't like it when something uses Steamworks and then can't be sold by any other digital distributor. Just means no competition, and while I think Steam are a pretty damn fine company, they could turn eeeevil... or be bought out by EA or Activision, which is pretty much the same thing.
Having said that, I've got about 100 games on Steam, so I'm not too worried
I use Steam so I don't mind. If games are going to have DRM, then I rather it's Steam to be honest.