How do you feel about PC games that require Steam installed?
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things that are compulsory are always acceptable to those who can see the virtue of being dominated, the weak willed, and the scared.... me I'm happy to join the resistance and fight big brother ever step. I have no problem in steps taken for anti piracy I hate being forced to do what I didn't buy into. Verify my purchase and give me an off switch.
Its an alright program but I just see it as unnecessary because I don't want to have to download a 500mb update before I play a game.. I know updates may be necessary but if I don't have any bandwidth left it sure does suck having to wait for the next month to play a game =/
You can turn off auto-updating. Unless you're going to be playing online multiplayer, you don't HAVE to update games before you play theminnocentEX said:
I sure feel stupid for not knowing this earlier, thanks for telling meAlfador_VII said:You can turn off auto-updating. Unless you're going to be playing online multiplayer, you don't HAVE to update games before you play theminnocentEX said:
Of all the intrusive, always on DRM systems. It's the most reliable and it's the only one which offers it's users any kind of payback for their inconvieniance and for not actually 'owning' the games. It's also the only one that allows you to fiddle with certain settings to make it work properly offline.gold_digger22 said:
I don't love it, but I can live with it.
I don't mind steam at all. However I do wish that it wouldn't be so resource heavy. When I decide to upgrade, I think I might as well buy a 160GB HD spare just for Steam, because it's the only way it'll not rape my hard drive.
But games that require it... Hmm... I don't mind them as long as they don't impact the performance of the game itself. Steam is very useful and the DRM system is has is smart. If you buy a game, you can keep it forever. If you want to redownload it no jumping through hoops at all. Just redownload it. It keeps everything simple and smart in my opinion.
But games that require it... Hmm... I don't mind them as long as they don't impact the performance of the game itself. Steam is very useful and the DRM system is has is smart. If you buy a game, you can keep it forever. If you want to redownload it no jumping through hoops at all. Just redownload it. It keeps everything simple and smart in my opinion.
@strigoivii: CoD: World at War was never a Steamworks game, and the PC port of Saints Row 2 was notoriously crap, so the lag you're complaining about would probably be unaffected if you cracked the game. I fail to see why you're complaining about Steam.
what about us that steam offers absolutely NO positives and has caused problems.. it offers me nothing but I have to install a program to play a game I own, I have to connect to the internet in order to install a game I own, I have to periodically connect to the internet to play a game I own, I have lag playing a game I own because of steam... I suffered installation problems because of steam. I defy anyone here to show me 1 single use I would personally have for Steam.... to help you get started... in 26 years of game playing I have only kept 12 games as constant keepers (none require steam) I always resell my used games (with the exception of those 12) to recoup the expense of games (cheaper than any discount, buy for £34.99 sell for £20 so £14.99 to play and own a new release) I never play online EVER, I play against myself and myself alone. I do not update ever. I do not want any downloadable content, any add ons, screen shots, trailers, offers, promotions or score tracking. I do not want anything taking up my cpu usage except the programs I choose.
First time I realised I had to install steam I was kind of annoyed. I've been using it for ages now and I like the auto updates, frequent sales, steam cloud and the fact that it doesn't matter if I lose the discs.
It is a pain that you can't return steam games but plenty of other pc games use online activation that isn't steam anyway so it isn't a steam exclusive problem. Also I find that the client is a bit... bulky? It could be more unobtrusive, smaller and cleaner. I don't mind so much though. It's not going to make me boycott any games.
It is a pain that you can't return steam games but plenty of other pc games use online activation that isn't steam anyway so it isn't a steam exclusive problem. Also I find that the client is a bit... bulky? It could be more unobtrusive, smaller and cleaner. I don't mind so much though. It's not going to make me boycott any games.
The only thing that bugged me about it is when I bought a boxed version of Metro 2033 recently. Here I sit with a dvd full of data ready to install the game, but what it did was ignore the disc, fire up steam, and DOWNLOAD THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. Why did they even put a disc in the box?
I have always hated steam since I first got it. My modem died, so I was out 2 weeks of internet, so I decided to go and get a new game. Nothing on the box said I needed an internet connection. So I got home, opened it up and then couldn't install the game without an internet connection. WTF? Sure, if you buy off steam, then have steam be used, but if I have a brand new hard copy of the game, don't make me have to use steam to install it. Expecially when the reason I am getting it is because my internet is out of action.
I have had bad experiences with it since I first had to use it, whether it be not being able to install a game because my internet was down to not being able to play games because the steam servers were down and I needed to download an update that updated something I didn't really care about and had no impact on the game to the best of all - having my internet down, but having steam need to LOG IN before I am able to switch to OFFLINE mode! So I couldn't play the game until my internet was back up and running.
I wish I didn't have to use steam if I purchased the hard copy of the game.
I have had bad experiences with it since I first had to use it, whether it be not being able to install a game because my internet was down to not being able to play games because the steam servers were down and I needed to download an update that updated something I didn't really care about and had no impact on the game to the best of all - having my internet down, but having steam need to LOG IN before I am able to switch to OFFLINE mode! So I couldn't play the game until my internet was back up and running.
I wish I didn't have to use steam if I purchased the hard copy of the game.
my mistake it was modern warfare 2 ... aka the worst piece of crap ever sold. even if I could have found someone who hadn't read the pc owner reviews slating this abortion I still couldn't sell it and recoup the £44.99 I'd been robbed. It also would not install from the disc and took 2 days to install and less than 4 hours to play. Activision and infinty ward must have been dying of laughter knowing how many people they had mugged and no-one could resell. I'm complaining about Steam because it is non optional. I have no problem verifying my purchase. I have a problem with being forced to install a product that offers me nothing except problems.Delusibeta said:
whats to stop you selling your account on and opening up a new account every game ? in fact it almost begs for you to sell your 2nd hand game and pass on the account details to the new game owner. just open up another e-mail address and start a new account with every game..... I wonder how long it would be before steam became overwhelmed to the point that they'd introduce charges to the users ? I wonder how many steam banner wavers would drop the cause then ?
I should be bothered but i'm not, I love steam, having my games in the cloud with no need for physical disks or manual patching is very convenient, plus the social networking element of steam is very useful for gamers and that's without even mentioning steam sales...