How does Black Panther do his stuff?

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So, does he have super powers? Because when I was watching Civil War, I first thought "Oh ok, he's got a super suit, because he's got access to tons of vibranium. Ok fine, and he's a good fighter like Black Widow ok no problem....wait...is he running at fucking 50mph chasing Winter Soldier on a motorcycle?! The fuck?!"

So, how is he doing the beyond normal stuff? Mystic powers granted to him by his tribe's Panther totem? Super soldier serum? Super suit that just happens to be way more streamlined than Tony's? Just because? I didn't see anything when I skimmed the character's wiki page that really explained how it was done.
 

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He has human enhancements similar but not quite the same as those Captain America received, or he's simply at the peak of baseline human physique, depending on which version of the character the MCU is going with.

He's basically Batman without the car. Actually, he's literally Batman without the car.
 

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Zontar said:
He has human enhancements similar but not quite the same as those Captain America received, or he's simply at the peak of baseline human physique, depending on which version of the character the MCU is going with.

He's basically Batman without the car. Actually, he's literally Batman without the car.
No amount of "human physique" will let a human run at highway speeds. That's superhuman. Comparing him to Batman doesn't work, because when Batman is moving as fast as a car he's in a car. :p
 

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Happyninja42 said:
Zontar said:
He has human enhancements similar but not quite the same as those Captain America received, or he's simply at the peak of baseline human physique, depending on which version of the character the MCU is going with.

He's basically Batman without the car. Actually, he's literally Batman without the car.
No amount of "human physique" will let a human run at highway speeds. That's superhuman. Comparing him to Batman doesn't work, because when Batman is moving as fast as a car he's in a car. :p
Well then in that case he's Batman AND the Batmobile.

inu-kun said:
Because Civil War was an aweful, terribly written film.

'Nuff said.
inu-kun, I love you (no homo), but you're both morally and objectively wrong on this one.
 

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Like 99% of superheroes, he's trained to "peak physical condition" or something like that. Basically you get away with anything.
 

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He is in top human condition, which depending of the biology knowledge of the writer, it varies between Olympic gymnast to the biggest badass creature in Africa (faster than cheetahs and stronger than gorillas). As others have said, he is Batman without the cape... and since Batman can catch a speeding car just by virtue of being higher...
 

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His strength and senses have been raised to super human levels by the Goddess Bast.
 

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Silentpony said:
Zontar said:
inu-kun, I love you (no homo), but you're both morally and objectively wrong on this one.
Eeeehhh...Its not...cohesive. Its like 3 different movies cut together.
But it's still a good, enjoyable movie. Sure it's no masterpiece, but no one expected it to be.
 

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If I remember the Marvel encyopedia, he took some herb/ plant native in Wakanda that give him abit of super human ability like enchanse speed and strength etc.

In saying so, I think I read somewhere in the Cinematic Universe, he could be an Inhuman or something like that.
 

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Happyninja42 said:
Zontar said:
He has human enhancements similar but not quite the same as those Captain America received, or he's simply at the peak of baseline human physique, depending on which version of the character the MCU is going with.

He's basically Batman without the car. Actually, he's literally Batman without the car.
No amount of "human physique" will let a human run at highway speeds. That's superhuman. Comparing him to Batman doesn't work, because when Batman is moving as fast as a car he's in a car. :p
Correct me if you have never seen this scene: Batman stands on the top of a building, looking down on the streets. Suddenly, he sees a speeding car driving around, running through red lights and nearly running over every pedestrian, maybe even escaping from the police (possibly some goons after robbing a bank). So he decides to chase then... how? By running on the rooftops and jumping from rooftop to rooftop. For reference, there is a scene just like that one when he chases a truck in Batman Year One.

Now, he is usually running near the border of the rooftops looking down at the cars, not in the middle path of the rooftops, so he is not actually gaining so much distance. He may seem to be covering more ground, but that is a trick of the perspective. He may even do some basic parkour to look cooler. However, if he catches them (with some extra seconds to account for falling on top of the car), he was actually running faster than them.
 

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If we're being generous here, the traffic was only moving at 40-50 km/h because of rush hour or some shit which would make them "only" run as fast as Usain Bolt. Though the MCU is hardly consistent in how it portrays the heroes' power(s).
 

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hermes said:
Happyninja42 said:
Zontar said:
He has human enhancements similar but not quite the same as those Captain America received, or he's simply at the peak of baseline human physique, depending on which version of the character the MCU is going with.

He's basically Batman without the car. Actually, he's literally Batman without the car.
No amount of "human physique" will let a human run at highway speeds. That's superhuman. Comparing him to Batman doesn't work, because when Batman is moving as fast as a car he's in a car. :p
Correct me if you have never seen this scene: Batman stands on the top of a building, looking down on the streets. Suddenly, he sees a speeding car driving around, running through red lights and nearly running over every pedestrian, maybe even escaping from the police (possibly some goons after robbing a bank). So he decides to chase then... how? By running on the rooftops and jumping from rooftop to rooftop. For reference, there is a scene just like that one when he chases a truck in Batman Year One.

Now, he is usually running near the border of the rooftops looking down at the cars, not in the middle path of the rooftops, so he is not actually gaining so much distance. He may seem to be covering more ground, but that is a trick of the perspective. He may even do some basic parkour to look cooler. However, if he catches them (with some extra seconds to account for falling on top of the car), he was actually running faster than them.
Batman has a bathook, that he deploys liberally to traverse distances faster than he normally would be able to. And if they are doing that with Batman, which I have never seen as I don't watch the super hero cartoons, then I call equal level of bullshit on that too. But what I do challenge you to tell me, is a scene where Batman is on foot, in the middle of a street, and running faster than cars. I'm willing to bet, that the rooftop sequences you are describing are simply a case of editing, and hand waving, but when you have a dude literally running on a highway, faster than cars, that's not just "peak physical condition" crap. No human can run that fast, for that long, period. Not without some juice/tech/magic.

Apparently there is no actual answer though, as most of these responses have been hand wavey theories/explanations, and not "The comics say he is infused with the power of the Panther, to defend his people" or some similar thing. So I'm going to just chalk it up to "the directors don't know dick about human physiology and just do whatever looks cool.
 

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He eats a special Wakandan cabbage and gets super powers.
Not even kidding.

Well, it's not really a cabbage, it is some plant though.
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
Plot armour. That shit can do literally anything!
(Alright film btw, but I did wonder the same question too).
I have been watching a lot of Comic Book cartoons animation lately and plot armous is so so high. Then again its meant to be.
 

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In the comics, I think it's swung between "just really fit" to "mystical panther powers" to "Wakandan homeopathy". But to be honest, he's only appeared in a minor role in one Marvel movie. For all we know, the film version of Black Panther is a cyborg with a gorilla heart.

What bugged me was that he's apparently fucking bulletproof. I saw that bit where the helicopter shot at him in the film and just...scoffed like a 19th century gentleman watching a suffrage rally. That was like a .50 calibre machine gun, and it just sparks off him while he stands there looking mildly curious. Apparently the suit is made of vibranium? I didn't think vibranium was that flexible, considering that its most notable quality is literally its inflexibility.

Never mind that Black Panther is running around in a revolutionary suit of body armour so far ahead of its contemporaries that it makes Iron Man look like Ned Kelly. I mean, shit - did Tony Stark never think "Oh, maybe I should use my incredible wealth to go get some vibranium and use it to armour, say, the giant glowing power source in the middle of my torso."

A lot of superhero films don't make any dang sense when you think about them. Fun to watch, though.

[sub]Batfleck is also bulletproof, apparently, though at least he reacted to getting shot twice in the head and didn't stand there posing like a chump.[/sub]
 

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Super suit and life-long training. He doesnt have super-natural powers, but Vibranium which the suit is made out of, is basically the most powerful physical material in Marvel, even more so than Adamantium since it has special properties. Captain America's shield is made of it too.

Edit: I guess the film doesnt really tell you anything about his suit or Vibranium.
 

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Vibranium absorbs kinetic energy, I don't recall them ever saying HOW that works. So, I don't see why Black Panther wouldn't be able to have a Suit like that.
I get how vibranium works, I just don't get how they were able to work it into a skin-tight body suit. I mean, it's still metal.

Maybe they were using only tiny strands of vibranium, but that raises the question of exactly how much vibranium one would need to make an invulnerable set of pajamas. I mean, if suits like Panther's use less vibranium to stay at cloth-levels of flexibility, it should actually be easier to mass-produce them and...conquer Africa, or something.

Fischgopf said:
And the Centerpiece of Tony's armor is also a repulsor, so it wouldn't make much sense for him to cover it up.

Why wouldn'tTony use Vibranium? Well, up until the events of Avengers 2, Wakanda is isolationist and Tony and Co. believe Caps Shield to be the only Vibranium...so yeah, he didn't know it was a Option until recently and given the events of Avengers 2 and Civil War, it seems unlikely that Wakanda would be willing to give him any. Now, he does have Cap's Shield, but I also doubt that he would smelt it considering his relationship to Cap.
The arc reactor can work as a repulsor, but it's also his suit's power source, and until Iron Man 3 it was all that was keeping Stark alive. He could at least put a retractable cover on it. It's the middle of his torso, that's the easiest part for someone to hit. Hawkeye could take him out with one arrow.

When War Machine gets his arc reactor lasered and immediately goes dark, I was like "Finally! It takes a super-intelligent AI with an Infinity Gem for a brain to realise that the glowing circle in the middle of his chest is his weak spot." And even then he did it by accident!

And as for vibranium's availability - Stark's dad thought that the shield was all the vibranium that existed in the 1940s, but by the modern day guys like Ulysses Klaue are smuggling the stuff on the black market. Tony would have to know about that; he used to be an arms dealer himself.

And maybe it's out of his price range or he just couldn't buy enough of it, but then we get told that Ultron built himself an entire body out of Klaue's vibranium, and that just got left on Sokovia when it exploded. Considering that it's worth billions and wouldn't have been damaged by the blast, Stark would have to be freaking crazy not to go recover it, even if only to keep it out of the hands of people like Klaue.

At that point, the only possible explanations are a) the vibranium was vaporized in the Sokovia explosion or b) Tony Stark is really committed to his superhero name and doesn't like the sound of "Vibranium Man."

/rantmode