How does Black Panther do his stuff?

[WolfThomas]

It's been answered well here. Black panther is a superhuman. He has powers from special herbs and medicines he took to become the Black Panther and/or powers from his Panther god (the MCU likely swings to the former reason, basically he's a wakandan super-soldier). He also has a super suit based on Wakandan vibranium tech. So it absorbs kinetic energy and has claws sharp enough to scratch Cap's shield.

What they didn't really convey in the film, which I guess is okay (because they can save it for later or decide he is too overpowered), is that he is also one of the 10 smartest people on Earth.

 

[axlryder]

It's been answered well here. Black panther is a superhuman. He has powers from special herbs and medicines he took to become the Black Panther and/or powers from his Panther god (the MCU likely swings to the former reason, basically he's a wakandan super-soldier). He also has a super suit based on Wakandan vibranium tech. So it absorbs kinetic energy and has claws sharp enough to scratch Cap's shield.

What they didn't really convey in the film, which I guess is okay (because they can save it for later or decide he is too overpowered), is that he is also one of the 10 smartest people on Earth.

Is that not including mutants/enhanced individuals?

 

[WolfThomas]

Is that not including mutants/enhanced individuals?

Including. It's been stated in a few marvel comics (Mighty Avengers, some of the post World War Hulk Stuff) that the following characters are in the top ten most intelligent people on earth. No particular order:

Dr Doom. Reed Richards. Hank Pym. Bruce Banner. Amadeus Cho. Tony Stark. Hank Mccoy/Beast. T'Challa/Black panther.

The other 2 spots are hotly contested and have never been cleared up. Possible candidates are Valeria Richards. Monica Rappucini (of AIM). Peter Parker. Madison Jeffries. Dr Nemesis. Blue Marvel. M.O.D.O.K. and varies super villains (Dr Ock, Mad Thinker, etc).

In reality I mean how do you even start to compare one to another? I mean three of them have made time-machines? Is that a bench mark of intelligence?

 

[axlryder]

Is that not including mutants/enhanced individuals?

Including. It's been stated in a few marvel comics (Mighty Avengers, some of the post World War Hulk Stuff) that the following characters are in the top ten most intelligent people on earth. No particular order:

Dr Doom. Reed Richards. Hank Pym. Bruce Banner. Amadeus Cho. Tony Stark. Hank Mccoy/Beast. T'Challa/Black panther.

The other 2 spots are hotly contested and have never been cleared up. Possible candidates are Valeria Richards. Monica Rappucini (of AIM). Peter Parker. Madison Jeffries. Dr Nemesis. Blue Marvel. M.O.D.O.K. and varies super villains (Dr Ock, Mad Thinker, etc).

In reality I mean how do you even start to compare one to another? I mean three of them have made time-machines? Is that a bench mark of intelligence?

I figured Franklin Richards would be up there, but I guess he's not necessarily "smart". Also, yeah, seems a little arbitrary.

 

[WolfThomas]

I figured Franklin Richards would be up there, but I guess he's not necessarily "smart". Also, yeah, seems a little arbitrary.

Some they argue have the potential to be in the top 10 but haven't peaked. Like Valeria Richards or Peter Parker. Franklin Richards is incredibly powerful (well at times), but most of his stuff he does with his powers is instinct. And he is smart. But he's like Sue Storm smart. Smarter than most people. Could be an expert in a single field. But not multi-disciplinary renaissance man smart like his father.

Yeah it's all very arbitrary. But the original point is T'Challa is very smart. Like should be able hold a conversation with Tony Stark, Hank Pym or Bruce Banner (as far as super-smart film characters have been introduced).

Edit: Also some characters are naturally smart and might have been able to be in that level had their lives not taken different paths. Like Charles Xavier dedicating himself to mutants rights or Nathan Summers/Cable having to be a soldier his whole life (he effortlessly passed the New York Bar exam without using his powers).

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Why are we talking about how unrealistic it is for Black Panther to run really fast when a) he has a suit made of metal that makes him bullet and apparently kinetic-energy proof, b) is the king of the most technologically advanced country on the planet, and c) has multiple explanations in the comics for his superhuman abilities, and NOT talking about how Bucky can run faster than both Black Panther and Captain America?

 

[WolfThomas]

Why are we talking about how unrealistic it is for Black Panther to run really fast when a) he has a suit made of metal that makes him bullet and apparently kinetic-energy proof, b) is the king of the most technologically advanced country on the planet, and c) has multiple explanations in the comics for his superhuman abilities, and NOT talking about how Bucky can run faster than both Black Panther and Captain America?

I believe in the MCU Bucky is meant to have had super-serum experiments performed on him by Russia/Hydra. So he should be around Cap's level. Unlike the comics where he is just well trained.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Super suit and life-long training. He doesnt have super-natural powers, but Vibranium which the suit is made out of, is basically the most powerful physical material in Marvel, even more so than Adamantium since it has special properties. Captain America's shield is made of it too.

Edit: I guess the film doesnt really tell you anything about his suit or Vibranium.

I suppose it depends on whether MCU Vibranium works like its comic counterpart.

In the comics, Vibranium absorbs all vibrations and kinetic energy directed at it, storing that energy between the molecular bonds. In short, the more you hit it, the tougher it becomes. But there are limits to that. It can be destroyed by a force greater than its ability to absord, though how much that is depends from writer to writer.

Adamantium, once cooled, is usually stated as being completely indestructible to anything short of other adamantium in the main Marvel comic continuity. It doesn't seem to exist in the MCU though, with Vibranium replacing it. I assume that's because Adamantium is more closely related to Wolverine and the X-Men, and 20th Century Fox owns their movie rights.

And then there's Uru, the metal Mjolnir is made of. It's generally shown as being near indestructible too and capable of defeating any other material, save for Vibranium and Adamantium. I don't think it's been mentioned in the MCU so far.

 

[Saelune]

Super suit and life-long training. He doesnt have super-natural powers, but Vibranium which the suit is made out of, is basically the most powerful physical material in Marvel, even more so than Adamantium since it has special properties. Captain America's shield is made of it too.

Edit: I guess the film doesnt really tell you anything about his suit or Vibranium.

I suppose it depends on whether MCU Vibranium works like its comic counterpart.

In the comics, Vibranium absorbs all vibrations and kinetic energy directed at it, storing that energy between the molecular bonds. In short, the more you hit it, the tougher it becomes. But there are limits to that. It can be destroyed by a force greater than its ability to absord, though how much that is depends from writer to writer.

Adamantium, once cooled, is usually stated as being completely indestructible to anything short of other adamantium in the main Marvel comic continuity. It doesn't seem to exist in the MCU though, with Vibranium replacing it. I assume that's because Adamantium is more closely related to Wolverine and the X-Men, and 20th Century Fox owns their movie rights.

And then there's Uru, the metal Mjolnir is made of. It's generally shown as being near indestructible too and capable of defeating any other material, save for Vibranium and Adamantium. I don't think it's been mentioned in the MCU so far.

Well, Id have to assume its mostly the same until described different. Adamantium is mostly just super strong, so I give more credit to a metal with well, super powers. Though I never really thought of how it likely wont appear due to no X-Men.

As for Uru, it is so rarely brought up, while Adamantium and Vibranium seem to be given out as candy, despite their rarity or whatever. Plus its magic metal. And have they said what MCU Mjolnir is made of? Cause ya know, aliens.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Just adding my voice to the chorus, but from cartoons I got the vibe of "hereditary royal magic". The King of Wakanda has super powers.

As far as the various super metals go, I always figured Adamantium was the steel of the group. Relatively common, relatively easy to work, very strong. Vibranium would be closer to Titanium. Very strong for its weight, but technically weaker that Adamantium, it's ability to absorb kinetic energy being useful in certain applications like combat, but you wouldn't want to make a girder out of it like you could Adamantium. And Uru is the Tungsten of the group. Very heavy, very hard, comparatively difficult to work. Really needs to be magicked to shine, but hits like a truck.

 

[Laughing Man]

Loving all the folk trying to explain how he does what he does in Civil War, you do know that their will be a Black Panther movie that will no doubt give us a back story on how he is able to do what he does? The guy has a fucking jet that is on par with the Quinn Jet that Stark has The Avengers flying around in Age Of Ultron, so we can already say that he has access to some high end tech, it's also been made clear that the Super Solider Serum (or variants of it) is at least fairly common place within the MCU or how about the movie showed us a really good new character with some nice abilities and instead of explaining how he did everything he did it opted to leave us with a wee bit of mystery?

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Based on how cozy Tony was acting with the suits in Civil War, my guess is that his actions and time to develop (including gathering Vibranium from Ultron) was nil due to him admitting his part in what happened with that AI.

Anyway, as for the Black Panther, he's getting a movie. I'm waiting to see if there will be any explanations about him or not. I found the scene where the three heroes were outrunning traffic to be a bit unbelievable, I mean if Cap could regularly clock 70km/h (he was passing cars going at least 60km/h, to be generous), why on Earth would he even bother with the motorcycles of his previous movies?

"But Redlin, who cares, it makes the action sequence more awesome!"

Well, yeah. That's likely the logic they used to justify it. Still seems wonky but fine. If we want to get nitpicky on powers and abilities, look no further than Scarlet Witch.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

Loving all the folk trying to explain how he does what he does in Civil War, you do know that their will be a Black Panther movie that will no doubt give us a back story on how he is able to do what he does? The guy has a fucking jet that is on par with the Quinn Jet that Stark has The Avengers flying around in Age Of Ultron, so we can already say that he has access to some high end tech, it's also been made clear that the Super Solider Serum (or variants of it) is at least fairly common place within the MCU or how about the movie showed us a really good new character with some nice abilities and instead of explaining how he did everything he did it opted to leave us with a wee bit of mystery?

Dude, the Black Panther solo film won't be out until 2018. I mean, sure, it might - or might not - explain how they were able to smelt vibranium into a flexible suit or give Black Panther the strength to outrun a motorcycle and beat the Winter Soldier in an arm-wrestle. It's still like two and a half years away; in the meantime, people are gonna speculate.

I'm leaning towards the idea that the Wakandans reverse-engineered the super-soldier serum. They've got the brain-power to do it. It's a lot more plausible than shaman magic or special herbs. Or vibranium pajamas.

Remember what flubber did to basketball shoes? I imagine vibranium will be the same way on Panther's feet.

I don't know a lot about physics or science in general, but if vibranium absorbs vibrations and kinetic force, then shouldn't vibranium soles do the opposite of that?

I mean, it would let him survive long drops by landing on his feet (like a cat, nyuk nyuk nyuk) the same way Captain America does by landing on his shield, but if he tried to do the reverse - exerting force the vibranium soles instead of using them to absorb force - he shouldn't even be able to jump, much less sprint faster than a car.

I don't know. Vibranium is one of the dumber super-materials in comic books. At least adamantium is consistent - it's really heavy and really tough, and that's about it. Vibranium does everything from absorbing energy to reflecting energy to disintegrating other metals to powering spaceships and curing cancer.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

]The dome reflects, the bowl absorbs; granted, I don't get how the handles would survive a grenade, but it works for me in every other way and doesn't contradict any of the moments I remember.

If you're talking about that scene in Civil War, I'm pretty sure it was a flashbang grenade.

I still don't see how that works for Black Panther unless he's running around on foot-sized bowls made of vibranium. Which is...insane, but possible.