Making your own sweets yeah i can get that. but washing your own clothe with a toy? would you want to do that?jck4332 said:What's wrong with that?
I would have loved a toy oven as a kid and I'm a guy.
Making your own sweets yeah i can get that. but washing your own clothe with a toy? would you want to do that?jck4332 said:What's wrong with that?
I would have loved a toy oven as a kid and I'm a guy.
Yes, some women want to become house wives, some mothers want their daughters to become house wives.hotsauceman said:Ok. So i was killing time looking at the toy section at K-mart trying to think of what to get my nieces and nephews for there upcoming birthdays. I was in the girls section. I saw the typical fanfare(barbies,Baby doll and cooking toy etc.) When i saw a line of "Her first" toys. What i saw appalled me. "Her first Vacuum cleaner","Her first washer and dryer" and "her first refrigerator" all of them functional item from what i could see. I was just there speechless trying to process who came up with these idea and who would buy them for there daughters. I wrote in a paper awhile back about how toys are used to prepare kid for what is expected of them. And this just seems to prepare little girls for housework.
I'm thinking the exact same thing. If mum is a steady user of the vacuum cleaner and washer and dryer, chances are the daughter's gonna want to do that as well. I don't think it's an effort to condition little girls to be housewives, I think it's just giving them what they want.SammiYin said:That's pretty funny actually.
Sorry I'm a terrible person, I wouldn't read too much into it man, children emulate their parents, and if a girl sees her mother using an oven she's going to want to as well? I don't know I'm not a child psychologist, but I imagine it's along those lines.
How old are your nieces and nephews?hotsauceman said:Ok. So i was killing time looking at the toy section at K-mart trying to think of what to get my nieces and nephews for there upcoming birthdays. I was in the girls section. I saw the typical fanfare(barbies,Baby doll and cooking toy etc.) When i saw a line of "Her first" toys. What i saw appalled me. "Her first Vacuum cleaner","Her first washer and dryer" and "her first refrigerator" all of them functional item from what i could see. I was just there speechless trying to process who came up with these idea and who would buy them for there daughters. I wrote in a paper awhile back about how toys are used to prepare kid for what is expected of them. And this just seems to prepare little girls for housework.
I disagree that it teaches them anything. Having a play kitchen doesn't teach little Suzy that her place is making sammiches. If she enjoys playing kitchen or mother or whatever it is because she enjoys playing kitchen or mother or whatever. If her parents give her a toy vacuum cleaner because they want to reinforce that image then it is the parents at fault, not the toy or the toymaker. And who is to say that this hypothetical little girl isn't imitating daddy's role around the house by cooking and cleaning? Stay at home dads are becoming more and more common, and I personally know several couples where the man enoys cooking and/or is a clean freak. Hell, my own father was a qualified chef and did most of the cooking. As woodsey said, I think the only problem is the product name.hotsauceman said:Its that fact that toys teach kids how they are expected to behave. Women in our society still(even if they have a full time job and our married) are still the ones who do a mjority of work in the house. There is this quote i wish i could remember who said it but it went like this "Men have wives,Women don't" Basically men(although it is changing) are not the ones who are expected to clean so much anymore. It is still a womens job petty much sadlyWoodsey said:I'd say the "Her First" part is the issue; but then that's not something the kids pick up on.
But, y'know, kids like playing with that stuff. Little girls especially. So... they're gonna sell it. I don't think me playing with Action Men (and definitely not any Barbies when I was 3... ahem) or toy guns reinforced anything particularly.
Indeed. When society collapses, those unread books will make great fuel.Giest4life said:How old are your nieces and nephews?
Get them books.
I always gets my niece a book. Always. She probably hates me for it, but I know she'll thank me later.
Well, she is in Texas and I could get her a firearm. But I know my sister-in-law would make a big fuss over it.Dags90 said:Indeed. When society collapses, those unread books will make great fuel.Giest4life said:How old are your nieces and nephews?
Get them books.
I always gets my niece a book. Always. She probably hates me for it, but I know she'll thank me later.
You my good sir get it!fletch_talon said:A man with a job is just doing what he's supposed to.
A woman with a job is an independant strong individual etc. etc.
A woman who works around the house, caring for the children and relying on the husband's income is a good wife and a caring mother.
A man who works around the house, caring for the children and relying on the wife's income is a lazy bastard who needs to get off his arse and get a job.
Or so society seems to tell us.
Toys probably can be an influence on a child's future, but not by much. I played with trucks and cars as a child, I have 0 interest in cars now (rather odd for a male my age). I also had a baby doll (omg a girl's toy) but have little interest in having children (at the moment).
Many young girls seem to enjoy playing with replica household items, its simply the way of things, whether its society's influence or some other factor. Many young boys (though I'd say fewer than girls) also enjoy playing with such toys, so in the end, this company is only hurting themselves by cutting their customer base in half.
Holy rusted metal Batman! Did any of you check this crap out? INSANE! I thank God everyday that the hubs and I had a boy, life is so much easier on us as a consequence. I absolutely CANNOT imagine what he or I would do if our 10 year old came home with a Goddamn stripper pole or fake lower back tatoo.TrilbyWill said:thats not as bad as: this shit [http://www.cracked.com/article_19288_8-weirdly-sexual-products-you-wont-believe-are-kids.html]
theres a stripper pole. for your possibly-8 year old daughter. i like to imagine the people buying these products are either arrested as suspected peadophiles.
Hey, my easy bake oven had kung fu GRIP!Woodsey said:They're manly dolls! Manly I tells ya!Richardplex said:Because action figures =/= dolls, right?Woodsey said:I'd say the "Her First" part is the issue; but then that's not something the kids pick up on.
But, y'know, kids like playing with that stuff. Little girls especially. So... they're gonna sell it. I don't think me playing with Action Men (and definitely not any Barbies when I was 3... ahem) or toy guns reinforced anything particularly.
OT: it's up to the parents /kids to decide whether or not they want them. So I don't have any real issue with it, although it is on pretty grey territory on this.
-________- No Sammich for you.Apollo45 said:I see no issues. Now go make me a sammich.
Seriously though, I'm not sure I see anything wrong with the products. Easy bake ovens are the shit, and I'm a guy. Plus I'd kill to have a functioning refrigerator in my room. That might just be me, but whatever. The vacuum might be a little much, but cooking stuff? Sounds fine to me. Only issue I'm seeing is in the name, with the "Her First", but what can you do? No use getting offended at something like that, just don't buy it.
On another note, they also need to make a "His First Brewery" set. I would totally buy that for my kids.