All that social media engagement reminds me of crazy anti-vax science that go viral over facebook. Just because a bunch of people on social media are clicking links, doesn't make the information true.
How long until this Pandemic ceases?
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You're just like Trump! Calling reputable sources like WHO fake news! How dare you?
You could argue like you want to have a conversation and not just insult people.
So do you really try to imply that people with 'long covid' have both a cough and fever for years on end without evidence for infection? Fever in particular is a clear sign of infection. What is this, mystery disease? Otherwise a cough is just a lingering symptom that will resolve on it's own. So yes ofcourse any symptom that will last for longer than a month is a subjective symptom. No one is walking around with fevers or coughs for months/years on end unless they are very sick to begin with.
The WHO based it's metrics on social media so how is this information even remotely reliable? It's the same platform where people argue the earth is flat and the world government is run by pedophiles in a pizzeria. I could go post on Reddit now that Covid made me grow a tail, but that doesn't make it necessarily true. You can be condescending all you like but sidestepping the premise of your argument doesn't make for a very convincing case. Let alone a medically reliable one. How would this compare to other diseases? '''The information on Facebook says you have cancer, let us start the treatment''.
No, it isn't. Fever can also be caused by (for instance) immunological and inflammatory disorders, cancer, metabolic disorders, neurological disorders and certain medications. In chronic conditions, it may also be experienced in recurrent, acute episodes or "flare ups".
We also already know that covid-19 can cause damage to the lungs, heart and brain which can be long-term or permanent - even from mild cases, too.
Again what is so uncommon about malaise or cough a few weeks after infection is over? You just attributed a cough to various other conditions that aren't covid. How many people in general, long before covid, go to hospitals with health complaints and then medical tests show no abnormalities? Half? More than that even? If you put a magnifying glass on people when they self-report on health issues ofcourse much more complaints will come to light. That is why there are tests, to distinguish 'serious' from 'not serious'. That doesn't mean people aren't bothered by their symptoms but there is no way to ascertain these symptoms are either psychosomatic or indeed even related to post covid infection considering how regular they are.
It literally says 'self-reported symptoms' and is then further divided into categories of people who already have a laundry list of comorbidities. Most of them obese or already asthmatic. And like I expected psychiatric also scores really high to the point it even warrants further investigation.
''The finding of an association between chronic psychiatric conditions and delayed return to usual health requires further evaluation.''
All of these with diagnosis that isn't 'long covid'.
Outside the risk group that is extremely rare.
Yup.
The olfactory and gustatory neurones aren't directly affected by covid-19, but some of the surrounding cells (including blood vessel cells) that support their function do. Disrupting the function of these support cells can then cause dysfunction of the neurones, even to the point of loss of nerve endings, which may take over a year to or even never recover. In some cases, there are also reports that people have altered sense of taste and smell, probably because the function of these cells or how the information from them is processed has been altered due to the damage.
I just thought it was funny. Even thought you might appreciate that one. But if you see conspiracies everywhere, I guess there's no helping it.
As I said before, there is evidence that gastrointestinal infections can lead (probably through immunological causes) to damage of dopaminergic neurones in the brain and thus eventual Parkinson's disease. In a similar way, infections are linked to autoimmune disorders such as multiple sclerosis.
It is perfectly credible that "long covid" represents long-term alterations to immunological responses, other forms of cellular activity, or permanent damage to tissues, caused by SARS-CoV-2. This would fit with available knowledge. Such effects might not be easily observable or testable without a lot of research, though.
It is a credible concern. The issue was that the reports pf the WHO couldn't be criticized without a noticeable backlash (accusations such as "you can't read" spring to mind). This requires further study and observation.
BTW I can send you a case where a woman without a sense of smell regained it after she was infected by Covid and recovered. She apparently lost her sense of smell 12 years ago as a result of influenza.
edit: bollocks, I can't find a source in English, just some morning tv segment.
I had to look up the word, and the joke isn't funny anymore after it's explained to you.
By the same token you can argue multiple sclerosis is because of genetic susceptibility of primarily people of northern European descent. It is not easily observable or testable because there are no direct correlations only many interacting variables. A certain infection might trigger a genetic susceptibility or it might not or only in some people with other predispositions. It's ultimately impossible to protect yourself from all of life''s ills, inherited or otherwise.