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Something Amyss

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veloper said:
The dirt in other fields is also there to be found, if you're willing to look for it.
And it's dealt with. None of this conspiracy theory talk which has dominated the gaming world for weeks now.

It's the difference between pissing down on somebody else and pissing in the wind.
Everybody (with maybe a rare few exceptions) receives from the publishers. For something that close to home you would want to make sure it cannot get back to you. Nobody would be happy if every journalist started pointing fingers at everyone. They would all look bad.
You're still yet to provide any evidence that this would be at issue. Just empty speculation at odds with the way gaming has worked.

Even the current "scandal" requires on an illuminati-style organisation with no proof such a thing actually exists. You might as well tell me that this wouldn't happen because the Lizard People say so.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
veloper said:
The dirt in other fields is also there to be found, if you're willing to look for it.
And it's dealt with. None of this conspiracy theory talk which has dominated the gaming world for weeks now.

It's the difference between pissing down on somebody else and pissing in the wind.
Everybody (with maybe a rare few exceptions) receives from the publishers. For something that close to home you would want to make sure it cannot get back to you. Nobody would be happy if every journalist started pointing fingers at everyone. They would all look bad.
You're still yet to provide any evidence that this would be at issue. Just empty speculation at odds with the way gaming has worked.

Even the current "scandal" requires on an illuminati-style organisation with no proof such a thing actually exists. You might as well tell me that this wouldn't happen because the Lizard People say so.
It took you 13 days to come up with such a reply? That's funny.

No, this doesn't require any form of organization, just a healthy self-interest in the people involved.

You won't always get hard proof before you need to make a choice, so you'll simply need to go on less. In my experience it's safe to assume that people will try to act in their own self interest.
 

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Zero, I've gotten used to getting by without them. Forums and maybe a couple of youtubers is all that you need lately, most of these self-righteous "journalists" are obsolete.
 

Something Amyss

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veloper said:
It took you 13 days to come up with such a reply? That's funny.
It took 13 days for my inbox to calm down enough for this to show back up in the top page. But given all you're doing is offering a conspiracy theory, it wasn't high on my list. And now I feel like I was wasting my time.

Which, to be fair, I probably always was.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
veloper said:
It took you 13 days to come up with such a reply? That's funny.
It took 13 days for my inbox to calm down enough for this to show back up in the top page. But given all you're doing is offering a conspiracy theory, it wasn't high on my list. And now I feel like I was wasting my time.
You can't read. I never said it was a conspiracy. On the contrary, I demonstrated how the natural interests of the game journos already lie with the industry and not with the consumers. No shady dealings necessary.
Which, to be fair, I probably always was.
At least you got that half-right. I still had a good time!
 

Something Amyss

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veloper said:
You can't read. I never said it was a conspiracy.
Ironic, since I never said you you said it was a conspiracy. I said you were providing a conspiracy theory. Which is different, since one of the hallmarks of conspiracy theorists is that they don't think they're conspiracy theorists and might not even believe they're promoting a conspiracy theory.

However, you're assembling disparate information to establish a narrative largely not in keeping with the facts and dismissing anything to the contrary, with consequences so far reaching they would virtually require conspiracy to keep in check.

And I suppose there's nothing wrong with that, but it is fantasy. Utter fantasy.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
veloper said:
You can't read. I never said it was a conspiracy.
Ironic, since I never said you you said it was a conspiracy. I said you were providing a conspiracy theory.
I'm not providing a conspiracy theory either.
Which is different, since one of the hallmarks of conspiracy theorists is that they don't think they're conspiracy theorists and might not even believe they're promoting a conspiracy theory.
Nope, a conspiracy theorist will say there is a conspiracy. That's what they do.
However, you're assembling disparate information to establish a narrative largely not in keeping with the facts and dismissing anything to the contrary, with consequences so far reaching they would virtually require conspiracy to keep in check.
The facts are that most of the ad revenue is coming from game publishers, the review copies come from the publishers and trips by game journalists to events and press coverages have been paid for by publishers.
You haven't even tried to deny any of this and you've avoided all the relevant facts and arguments so far.