How would be wolfenstein new order and colossus would be if they develop by id Software?

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Well, I mean we can take a look at IDs track record in recent years (which won't include Return, that was over 15 years ago.)

Doom 2016 - Solid. But not really conducive to dealing with humans and such. Yeah, you can throw zombies and whatever in Wolfenstein (and the series has gone back and forth with it), but if you start getting into that as a mainline, you might as well just be making a Doom game instead.

Doom 3 has its defenders, but its gonna be a tough sell as a hardcore FPS. If the narrative and stealth gameplay of recent Wolfensteins irritates your FPS experience, I can't say that I'd buy you weren't offput by the attempts at horror elements and that ludicrous flashlight crap in D3.

The other ID title we've seen in recent times was RAGE. Almost an instant joke. Its a bit over-derided as a game, suffering from technical problems more then hefty gameplay criticisms. But despite decent gameplay when you got to it, suffered from a terrible story, bland open world, half-baked vehicle combat.


As a point of note, Wolfenstein 2009 wasn't ID. It was Raven Software. Raven Software was big thing back in the late 90s/early 2000s. Connaiseurs of this time period might recall Heretic, Hexen, Jedi Knight, that one good Voyager Star Trek game, and the original X-men Legends/Marvel Alliance games. Sadly, Activision seems to have obliterated them since and they're now just churning out Call of Duties as one of the rotating studios.

Doom 3 was better than new wolfenstein games easily. even Rage was better.

new wolf games have more cutscene than gameplay and when there is gameplay. its boring.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

I think B-Cell is the "Worth-A-Buy" guy. Anyone else?

 

[Hawki]

I think B-Cell is the "Worth-A-Buy" guy. Anyone else?

Guy gave Wolf 2 a thumbs up, so, no.

 

[Bad Jim]

Interesting how the RPGCodexers are much more critical of this linear 40 percent story 60 percent gameplay shooter with crappy stealth crouching parts.

You're not taking them seriously are you? Their main criticism is that you fight on the wrong side.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

I think B-Cell is the "Worth-A-Buy" guy. Anyone else?

Guy gave Wolf 2 a thumbs up, so, no.

Lol, that review actually popped up on my Youtube feed, started watching it, and clicked off it once he mentioned SJWs.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

I think B-Cell is the "Worth-A-Buy" guy. Anyone else?

Doubt it. From what I can tell, the "Worth-A-Buy" guy is from the UK. And while B-Cells writing has somewhat improved since he got here, I'm fairly certain he is not a native English speaker.

 

[Hawki]

Interesting how the RPGCodexers are much more critical of this linear 40 percent story 60 percent gameplay shooter with crappy stealth crouching parts.

You're not taking them seriously are you? Their main criticism is that you fight on the wrong side.

Da fuq?

I knew RPG Codex has a cantankerous userbase, but surely they would appreciate that the Nazis are the bad guys here.

 

[Bad Jim]

Interesting how the RPGCodexers are much more critical of this linear 40 percent story 60 percent gameplay shooter with crappy stealth crouching parts.

You're not taking them seriously are you? Their main criticism is that you fight on the wrong side.

Da fuq?

I knew RPG Codex has a cantankerous userbase, but surely they would appreciate that the Nazis are the bad guys here.

Only after someone posted that Mitchell and Webb sketch

 

[Dalisclock]

. What's the "SJW crap"

the anaya scene where

Spoiler

she took off her clothes and shoot.

most cringe worthy scene ever.

You don't know what "SJW" means, do you?

Yeah. I thought the SJWs were supposed to be againest Naked Titties in games. I don't know what SJW is even supposed to mean. It's just a word people love to throw around because it's something they don't like, it seems.

Much like "Political Correctness" and honestly I don't know what that word is supposed to mean either.

 

[DeliveryGodNoah_v1legacy]

Oh dear...

 

[kasperbbs]

It probabaly would have been more Doom with a different skin. I enjoyed the latest Doom game, but not enough to finish it in a timely fashion or to consider replaying it. I like a story in my games and some personality, other than just being angry and smashing things when something tries to introduce plot into your game.

 

[the December King]

. What's the "SJW crap"

the anaya scene where

Spoiler

she took off her clothes and shoot.

most cringe worthy scene ever.

You don't know what "SJW" means, do you?

Yeah. I thought the SJWs were supposed to be againest Naked Titties in games. I don't know what SJW is even supposed to mean. It's just a word people love to throw around because it's something they don't like, it seems.

Much like "Political Correctness" and honestly I don't know what that word is supposed to mean either.

I could be wrong, but I suspect that the SJW aspect is rooted in a narrative that sees BJ needing to be saved from Nazis by a pregnant woman. Her nudity doesn't factor into it...I think? Personally, I would need waaay more context before I concurred with that idea- I mean, in a game with over-the-top moments, why not this too?- but if it annoyed B-Cell, then so be it.

 

[shrekfan246]

. What's the "SJW crap"

the anaya scene where

Spoiler

she took off her clothes and shoot.

most cringe worthy scene ever.

You don't know what "SJW" means, do you?

Yeah. I thought the SJWs were supposed to be againest Naked Titties in games. I don't know what SJW is even supposed to mean. It's just a word people love to throw around because it's something they don't like, it seems.

Much like "Political Correctness" and honestly I don't know what that word is supposed to mean either.

I could be wrong, but I suspect that the SJW aspect is rooted in a narrative that sees BJ needing to be saved from Nazis by a pregnant woman.

Bingo bango. It doesn't matter that

Spoiler: actual spoiler alert for probably a bit past the halfway point of the game, maybe? I haven't actually finished it yet

Wolfenstein 2 is a game where your character literally dies and has his head grafted onto a new body. A pregnant woman doing action stuff is just TOO UNREALISTIC.

Also for some reason killing Nazis is "too political" now.

 

[sXeth]

I could be wrong, but I suspect that the SJW aspect is rooted in a narrative that sees BJ needing to be saved from Nazis by a pregnant woman. Her nudity doesn't factor into it...I think? Personally, I would need waaay more context before I concurred with that idea- I mean, in a game with over-the-top moments, why not this too?- but if it annoyed B-Cell, then so be it.

Oh, BJ has to save her probably about 12-1. Even that scene its more a case of her shooting first rather then actually saving him due to any necessity. Anya and BJ both kind of look like terrible people for sending her out on the missions while pregnant when they literally have a crew of 30 odd people, possibly more.

 

[Erttheking]

. What's the "SJW crap"

the anaya scene where

Spoiler

she took off her clothes and shoot.

most cringe worthy scene ever.

...Uh. A woman stripping is SJW stuff now? Do I have that right? Is Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball a SJW game?

Also we have Doom and we have Wolfenstein. I like both. I see no reason to make Wolfenstein into another Doom when we already have Doom, that mindset is what led to everyone chasing Call of Duty and gave us shit like Medal of Honor Warfighter.

 

[the December King]

. What's the "SJW crap"

the anaya scene where

Spoiler

she took off her clothes and shoot.

most cringe worthy scene ever.

You don't know what "SJW" means, do you?

Yeah. I thought the SJWs were supposed to be againest Naked Titties in games. I don't know what SJW is even supposed to mean. It's just a word people love to throw around because it's something they don't like, it seems.

Much like "Political Correctness" and honestly I don't know what that word is supposed to mean either.

I could be wrong, but I suspect that the SJW aspect is rooted in a narrative that sees BJ needing to be saved from Nazis by a pregnant woman.

Bingo bango. It doesn't matter that

Spoiler: actual spoiler alert for probably a bit past the halfway point of the game, maybe? I haven't actually finished it yet

Wolfenstein 2 is a game where your character literally dies and has his head grafted onto a new body. A pregnant woman doing action stuff is just TOO UNREALISTIC.

Also for some reason killing Nazis is "too political" now.

So yeah, sounds pretty over the top then, to me. Do you enjoy the Wolfenstein games in general? Are you enjoying this game so far?

I could be wrong, but I suspect that the SJW aspect is rooted in a narrative that sees BJ needing to be saved from Nazis by a pregnant woman. Her nudity doesn't factor into it...I think? Personally, I would need waaay more context before I concurred with that idea- I mean, in a game with over-the-top moments, why not this too?- but if it annoyed B-Cell, then so be it.

Oh, BJ has to save her probably about 12-1. Even that scene its more a case of her shooting first rather then actually saving him due to any necessity. Anya and BJ both kind of look like terrible people for sending her out on the missions while pregnant when they literally have a crew of 30 odd people, possibly more.

I think my personal peeve in games, at least in single player action or FPS, is getting 'saved' myself, often in a scripted event, or an unavoidable trap scenario (the example of Half Life 2 immediately comes to mind). No matter the saviour, having my agency taken from me in a game really cheeses me. It happens a lot, too...

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

I think B-Cell is the "Worth-A-Buy" guy. Anyone else?

Spoiler: I have another theory...

With a dash of

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

. What's the "SJW crap"

the anaya scene where

Spoiler

she took off her clothes and shoot.

most cringe worthy scene ever.

...Uh. A woman stripping is SJW stuff now? Do I have that right? Is Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball a SJW game?

Also we have Doom and we have Wolfenstein. I like both. I see no reason to make Wolfenstein into another Doom when we already have Doom, that mindset is what led to everyone chasing Call of Duty and gave us shit like Medal of Honor Warfighter.

i mean make wolfenstein like wolfenstein. not call of wolfenstein that newer games are.

wolfenstein like RTCW and id software would have pulled it right. wolfenstein need crazy sci fi elements like creatures, zombies etc.

 

[Erttheking]

. What's the "SJW crap"

the anaya scene where

Spoiler

she took off her clothes and shoot.

most cringe worthy scene ever.

...Uh. A woman stripping is SJW stuff now? Do I have that right? Is Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball a SJW game?

Also we have Doom and we have Wolfenstein. I like both. I see no reason to make Wolfenstein into another Doom when we already have Doom, that mindset is what led to everyone chasing Call of Duty and gave us shit like Medal of Honor Warfighter.

i mean make wolfenstein like wolfenstein. not call of wolfenstein that newer games are.

wolfenstein like RTCW and id software would have pulled it right. wolfenstein need crazy sci fi elements like creatures, zombies etc.

....You did get to the part in the New Order where we destroy a bridge where a floating ball of death that was created by a secret society of Jewish super scientists right?

Or the part in London where we use laser beams to destroy the giant Nazi death robot that was designed from the same template the aforementioned Jewish super scientists had?

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

. What's the "SJW crap"

the anaya scene where

Spoiler

she took off her clothes and shoot.

most cringe worthy scene ever.

...Uh. A woman stripping is SJW stuff now? Do I have that right? Is Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball a SJW game?

Also we have Doom and we have Wolfenstein. I like both. I see no reason to make Wolfenstein into another Doom when we already have Doom, that mindset is what led to everyone chasing Call of Duty and gave us shit like Medal of Honor Warfighter.

i mean make wolfenstein like wolfenstein. not call of wolfenstein that newer games are.

wolfenstein like RTCW and id software would have pulled it right. wolfenstein need crazy sci fi elements like creatures, zombies etc.

....You did get to the part in the New Order where we destroy a bridge where a floating ball of death that was created by a secret society of Jewish super scientists right?

Or the part in London where we use laser beams to destroy the giant Nazi death robot that was designed from the same template the aforementioned Jewish super scientists had?

I have not seen these type of scenes in new order

and replace it with long cutscene which tell terrible story.