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Death God said:
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Death God said:
Money. If people simply shared their acquired wealth of simply just traded goods like older times, we would have less homeless people, less starvation, less.... you see where I am going with this. Sure there are a lot of bigger issues out there that should have been stopped before money but, being below the poverty line myself, money has had no positive effect on humans. I has created greed and jealously and if people were to get rid of it, we might actually accomplish more than fighting over budget cuts and low medical funding and have a lower death rate with people not having to pay for medical treatment.
Not to be rude, but you know why we no longer use barter, correct?

Because without money, in order to trade, you have to find someone who has what you want and wants what you have and is willing to make the exchange. Money is simply something everyone wants from another, so it makes it easier than trading your watch when you want to buy gas for a car.

Money isn't the problem. Human nature is.
True, trading was a flawed system but I was thinking closer along the lines of nobody owning anything but more like mutually sharing everything with everyone. I meant to use trading to ease into the idea of "what's mine is your and what's yours in mine".
The problem I see with that is without ownership, no one has any reason to take responsibility for what there is.
 

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Making the first atom bomb..

No country should have weapons like that (now they are even worse) and if there really is some aliens watching us from above, we showed them how intelligent and fucking stupid we are at the same time.. Which really isnt a good sign to send..

But hey.. No nukes, no Fallout.. Thats not good..
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by the way if there really are aliens watching us they had either get down here and help or leave and go back to their own planet and fix their own problems instead of wasting time in space.
 

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Religion. Since its very beginning its been used as an excuse for genocide, war, dictatorship, you name it. In every conflict I can think of, religion played a part.
DUMBASS ALERT. Conflict is a part of human nature. "Religion" starts wars about as often as "not having enough of X resource(s)". Call us corrupt, fallen, whatever, but (and history will vindicate me on this) humans will always twist and despoil ANYTHING to suit their ends. Go back to the 1920's and you'd find that popular scientific opinion held that a woman's brain was inferior to a mans brain.

Your ignorance and bigotry is our worst mistake. Well, not just you, but everyone like you as well. Which probably half the country right now.
 

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monotheistic religion. Fuck Islam, Christianity, and all the other bastard religions they sprung from and led to. It's government in mystical form, that also makes you more susceptible to blindly following government. Raaaaaaaage.
so religions with like 500+ deities are ok?
 

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CM156 said:
Death God said:
CM156 said:
Death God said:
Money. If people simply shared their acquired wealth of simply just traded goods like older times, we would have less homeless people, less starvation, less.... you see where I am going with this. Sure there are a lot of bigger issues out there that should have been stopped before money but, being below the poverty line myself, money has had no positive effect on humans. I has created greed and jealously and if people were to get rid of it, we might actually accomplish more than fighting over budget cuts and low medical funding and have a lower death rate with people not having to pay for medical treatment.
Not to be rude, but you know why we no longer use barter, correct?

Because without money, in order to trade, you have to find someone who has what you want and wants what you have and is willing to make the exchange. Money is simply something everyone wants from another, so it makes it easier than trading your watch when you want to buy gas for a car.

Money isn't the problem. Human nature is.
True, trading was a flawed system but I was thinking closer along the lines of nobody owning anything but more like mutually sharing everything with everyone. I meant to use trading to ease into the idea of "what's mine is your and what's yours in mine".
The problem I see with that is without ownership, no one has any reason to take responsibility for what there is.
Also true. Every thing has a downside to it but I'd prefer people not taking responsibility for what there is rather than people dying of hunger and being homeless due to not having enough money.
 

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Christianity. Now before all the hate mail hear me out. Christianity started off all well and good by establishing a decent set of morals. But like all things people perverted the religion to gain more power. Which lead to the dark ages and the brief death of science. We would have been significantly more advanced by now if it wasn't for Christianity. Also I'm Russian orthodox. /emote ducks
 

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how about taking so friggin long to get where we are now? i mean c'mon! i was hoping to become immortal in my life time, but due to our ancestors negligence science hasn't come that far.
Might have something to do with roughly 800 years of what we call "the dark ages", where religious crazies censored and opposed scientific research if it wasn't in accordance with their religious views.

A scientific solution to death would've never been accepted, since you know, we're only supposed to be able to achieve immortality "through Christ" and all that stuff.

So if you wonder why scientific advances hasn't come further than this, you need not look further than your local church, synagouge or mosque to find the culprits...
so you mean stuff our ancestors did. DAMN THEIR LAZINESS.
 

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So if you wonder why scientific advances hasn't come further than this, you need not look further than your local church, synagouge or mosque to find the culprits...
Geez, I knew I had a bad memory, but I had no idea I was around in the middle ages, let alone holding back science...


Dude, this is just getting sad.
 

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Valknott said:
monotheistic religion. Fuck Islam, Christianity, and all the other bastard religions they sprung from and led to. It's government in mystical form, that also makes you more susceptible to blindly following government. Raaaaaaaage.
so religions with like 500+ deities are ok?
Yes.
 

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Evolution

The concept of evolution has resulted in more mass murder than all the religious wars in all of recorded history combined
And the concept of the atom, atomic bombs are devastating. We should never have figured out that atoms exsisted, we would have been much better off /sarcasm

Really? I am 99.9% sure im feeding a troll but 1. We didn't invent evolution, its a natural possess and 2. You can't not science because you think people will use your sciencing for evil.
 

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Leaving space.

After the Apollo program the entire space effort just kinda faded out and died. Exploration, survival, competition... all massive motivators for developing new technology. Any new frontier leads to an explosion of science as people try to figure out how to reach it, which leads to benefits for pretty much everyone.

Yes, the extreme nationalism and paranoia of that era wasn't a good thing, but competition and hate don't have to go together. We have to strive for something. Anything. We have to want to beat someone, because it's then when we do great things. And invading 3rd-world countries ain't gonna cut it.

(The above refers to US specifically, of course. Someone more experienced than me can try to generalize it.)
 

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drthmik said:
Evolution

The concept of evolution has resulted in more mass murder than all the religious wars in all of recorded history combined
I don't think you quite understood anything the OP said or anything you yourself said.
 

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werewolfsfury said:
GWarface said:
Making the first atom bomb..

No country should have weapons like that (now they are even worse) and if there really is some aliens watching us from above, we showed them how intelligent and fucking stupid we are at the same time.. Which really isnt a good sign to send..

But hey.. No nukes, no Fallout.. Thats not good..
by the way if there really are aliens watching us they had either get down here and help or leave and go back to their own planet and fix their own problems instead of wasting time in space.
What if they have no problems?

Besides, if i was zooming around space and found a planet with wierd looking creatures running around and beating eachother, i would stick around.. At least just for a cheap laugh.. Then when i saw the first nuke go off, i would put the planet under even bigger surveillance..

But i digress, this is offtopic..
 

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The worst thing we've ever done?

Eugenics

The idea that we, as a people, would try to eliminate "undesirable" aspects of the human species by killing/sterilizing the "unfortunate" members of our society cursed with these aspects is madness and dehumanizing. By the mid-20th Century this mentality had led to 60,000 forced sterilizations in the United States and The Holocaust in Europe.

I would like to toss a little nugget out there for those who think that religion is the worst thing because of all the deaths it has caused.

People will use anything as an excuse to fight people that they don't like. Religion is simply being used as a flimsy form of 'justification' for horrendous activities, but to blame religion for causing the issues in the first place is misguided.

For those who are dead-set in blaming religion, here's another nugget: The only thing that has killed more people than religion is the lack of religion. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Myanmar, Darfur, Rawanda, Sudan, Yugoslavia, and the numerous incidents of genocide that take place in Africa and the Middle East in modern times are/were perpetrated for political influence, not religious reasons. History has proven that people who are driven to seek power will drift towards immoral activities if they feel that they don't have to answer to a higher authority in the afterlife.

People will use anything as an excuse to fight people that they don't like. Religion is simply being used as a flimsy form of 'justification' for horrendous activities, but to blame religion for causing the issues in the first place is misguided.
 

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GWarface said:
werewolfsfury said:
GWarface said:
Making the first atom bomb..

No country should have weapons like that (now they are even worse) and if there really is some aliens watching us from above, we showed them how intelligent and fucking stupid we are at the same time.. Which really isnt a good sign to send..

But hey.. No nukes, no Fallout.. Thats not good..
by the way if there really are aliens watching us they had either get down here and help or leave and go back to their own planet and fix their own problems instead of wasting time in space.
What if they have no problems?

Besides, if i was zooming around space and found a planet with wierd looking creatures running around and beating eachother, i would stick around.. At least just for a cheap laugh.. Then when i saw the first nuke go off, i would put the planet under even bigger surveillance..

But i digress, this is offtopic..
if they have no problems then they are more than likely machine men or borgs either way they have probably developed weapons that would make nukes about as effective as male mosquitoes (the ones that don't suck blood).
 

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werewolfsfury said:
GWarface said:
werewolfsfury said:
GWarface said:
Making the first atom bomb..

No country should have weapons like that (now they are even worse) and if there really is some aliens watching us from above, we showed them how intelligent and fucking stupid we are at the same time.. Which really isnt a good sign to send..

But hey.. No nukes, no Fallout.. Thats not good..
by the way if there really are aliens watching us they had either get down here and help or leave and go back to their own planet and fix their own problems instead of wasting time in space.
What if they have no problems?

Besides, if i was zooming around space and found a planet with wierd looking creatures running around and beating eachother, i would stick around.. At least just for a cheap laugh.. Then when i saw the first nuke go off, i would put the planet under even bigger surveillance..

But i digress, this is offtopic..
if they have no problems then they are more than likely machine men or borgs either way they have probably developed weapons that would make nukes about as effective as male mosquitoes (the ones that don't suck blood).
Ok, look at it this way then.. What if one of their problems was our development? That they would love to see us thrive and prosper, but they cant intervene because we have to learn this stuff ourselves..?

Mix in the power of the atom and its kinda like when parents find out that their kid has learned to use a lighter.. It can be put to good use, but chances are that the kid finds it more fun to set things on fire..
 

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this might be controversial, but here we go.

biggest mistake would be people giving power to the Church in early Europe.

If the Church didn't have the power to suppress the researchers doing their work, I have a feeling that the progress of scientific discovery would've been accelerated.
 

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skeliton112 said:
drthmik said:
Evolution

The concept of evolution has resulted in more mass murder than all the religious wars in all of recorded history combined
And the concept of the atom, atomic bombs are devastating. We should never have figured out that atoms exsisted, we would have been much better off /sarcasm

Really? I am 99.9% sure im feeding a troll but 1. We didn't invent evolution, its a natural possess and 2. You can't not science because you think people will use your sciencing for evil.
1. we did invent evolution since it has never been observed in nature, there is no evidence for it in the fossil record and it cannot be experimented on in a lab. Every bit of evidence that has ever been put forward has been either proven to be a hoax or requires a prior assumption that evolution is fact and assuming your theory is true in order to prove your theory is true is such bad science that Darwin himself would disown the lot of you.

2. Might I suggest that you go back to school? because you appear to need a refresher on language, grammar and science.
 

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Delsana said:
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I would have to say wars over religion.
I'll agree with this over all the people just flat out saying 'Religion'. Religion on its own isn't a bad thing. Treat others how you want to be treated, don't steal - the basics of religion if followed in a sensible manner can make for quite a happy society.

It's when the nutters and people in power get hold of it that to falls to pieces and war start.

You can't say all religions have had holy wars though. The Buddhists are rather partial to peace.
Christianity isn't going anywhere, nice try.
Nice try? That doesn't make any sense. What I said was that most religions core philosophy is be nice to each other and worship a higher power. That is not inherently bad, but can be made dangerous by interpretation. Also, Buddhists have never started a holy war.

If you are confused, please reread my comment.