Humans are dicks.

[QuickDEMOL1SHER]

It seems that in this day and age, a large amount of fiction portrays the human race as a group of assholes compared to any other sentient races. Think about it, pretty much all fantasy has elves as the tree loving peaceful people, dwarfs as the honorable guys who know not to mess with stuff they shouldn't and almost every time the humans are either cutting down the tree's, taking land that they shouldn't or unleashing some evil being.

In Sci-Fi you have we are more often then not, the young, backwards aggressive race that screws everything up. Like in the new movie Avatar. Fuck those cat-elf thing, I like humans!

Do we just hate ourselves?

 

[Littlee300]

Alot people hate humanity
News: somone died
Jerk: HA HA TAKE THAT HUMANITY >
But really, some people need to cool on the hating of humanity, can we choose to hate the worse people and try not to be so like people we hate.

 

[grimsprice]

Yup. We suck ass. And generally, all those predicaments are probably good assessments of what we would actually do.

 

[Kollega]

Misanthropy and nihilism are all the rage these days. Writers are either a misanthropes themselves, or they pander to the demographic of whiny angsty emo teens. Like the guy above me. Sure, this makes some sense - our insticts tell us that we must be dicks to everyone else if we want to survive.

But we are sapient for a reason. Even if our instincts tell us to be total jerks, we are not obliged to. Nowadays, we're all in it toghether. Being cooperative - not egocentrical - is a very good way to survive.

 

[manaman]

Humanity is always likened as a conglomeration of all. Capable of the worst evil and the greatest good. How that means they are always dicks is beyond me, and you also seem to be picking up on a very narrow bit of media, hopefully on accident. Tolkien had the Dwarves unleash the Balrog by digging to deep out of greed.

Orcs, goblins, and the like are the traditional enemies.

 

[Satin6T]

nope, i don't hate myself it's the rest of you bastards that ruin everything for me

 

[Brad Shepard]

well, a lot of humans are dicks, and i guess the writers realize that.

 

[dark-amon]

I think that in movies, games and books it hust sells if it seems as it's critic on human nature. Off course I think that they go to far. Humans are reflective beings, making us all individual beings with the abilety of free will. off course there are those we can call d&%ks, but it's getting lame when everyone is presented like it.

 

[YoUnG205]

lol i think your thinking about it too much how ever u do raise a good piont.

But look at who comes up with sci- fi and fantasy games/movies : NERDS who would have got bullied so they now hate most other people

 

[Smudge91]

I think Lord of the Rings sums up the human race pretty well. I agree with manaman, in LOTR tolkein protrays dwarks as pretty selfish creatures obbsessed with gold. Elves just like to keep them selvs but thanks to the high elves we have sauron.
But also writers can be pretty uncreative especially when they are in the big film companies.

 

[QuickDEMOL1SHER]

Humanity is always likened as a conglomeration of all. Capable of the worst evil and the greatest good. How that means they are always dicks is beyond me, and you also seem to be picking up on a very narrow bit of media, hopefully on accident. Tolkien had the Dwarves unleash the Balrog by digging to deep out of greed.

Orcs, goblins, and the like are the traditional enemies.

True, the Orcs and goblins are the traditional ENEMIES, but humans are often the guys who kind of screw stuff up, without actually being the bad guys. Eceeldor(NO idea how to spell that one) not throwing the ring in for instance.

 

[Sampler]

We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!

 

[QuickDEMOL1SHER]

We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!

You had me at "Dicks fuck assholes".

 

[Vrex360]

Honestly I'm liking the whole 'humans are crap' persuasion because I am so sick of the cookie cutter story of aliens automatically being evil and humans being the good guys. While I think it is unfair to also make humans entirely evil, taking an honest look back at our history I think it's safe to say we are capable of commiting some great atrocities. However I like a story with moral ambiguity, where not all humans are evil and neither are all aliens. That would be an interesting twist.
Speaking of, I still count dwarves and elves as essentially human because they still look human. I like to think of Lizardmen and Orcs and stuff as examples of non humans and it would be nice if they weren't always typecast as evil.

Also, humans are forever inferior to the Sangheili/fact

 

[Veylon]

It's a reversal of the old "Humans are Special" stereotype and ties in with "Every Ethnic Group is Special Except for Whites". The Aliens stand in for non-whites, as they always have. Now, instead of being invaders or primitives, they're preachy Mary Sues, a role once preserved for the (White Male) Human hero. The Hero's new role is to unquestioningly accept whatever wisdom they're willing to part with and bestow it upon the unwashed masses of his homeworld.

Personally, I'd like to see all races/species portrayed as selfish, manipulative, biased, and short-sighted, each in their own unique way and do away with the bizarre notion that any one race/species is more inherently right than another.

 

[Citrus]

A lot of writers think they're making some kind of message by making humans the loud, warmongering race, but at this point it's just become another tired convention. You almost come to expect that humans will be portrayed like that nowadays.

 

[Beatrix]

Isn't this just that we're finally reaching the stage of planetary self-destruction that we find out what the hell we're actually doing?
Because it'd be about time.

 

[thejadefalcon]

It seems that in this day and age, a large amount of fiction portrays the human race as a group of assholes compared to any other sentient races. Think about it, pretty much all fantasy has elves as the tree loving peaceful people, dwarfs as the honorable guys who know not to mess with stuff they shouldn't and almost every time the humans are either cutting down the tree's, taking land that they shouldn't or unleashing some evil being.

In Sci-Fi you have we are more often then not, the young, backwards aggressive race that screws everything up. Like in the new movie Avatar. Fuck those cat-elf thing, I like humans!

Do we just hate ourselves?

An interesting thread to come across given my latest original fiction project. Basically, we lost a war against aliens (caused by trepassing onto a holy planet, tainted it) and we lost pretty goddamned miserably. Our only surviving world is in another galaxy and we're not doing too well there either (fighting an extra-galactic menace with practically zero military strength). Originally, I portray the main cast as noble, doing what is right no matter what the cost to themselves, from saving puppies to starting a civil war to destroy the humans who have become xenophobic and threatening the rest of the race's existence. However, as it goes on, I start to twist them, turning them into monsters. For example, they destroy a planet for it's power source, killing seven billion sapient lifeforms and annihilating two distinct races in the process. But, this power source later helps them fight off a bad guy and save countless others, though at the cost of losing their own world once more (twice in three years, that's got to suck ). I'm hoping to make the distinction slow and subtle and leave with the ultimate point of "What the hell are we? Good guys or bad guys?" Other, more subtle points are "Space battles are cool" and "please praise me."

So yeah, I'll keep an eye on this thread... looks like it may help me out a bit...

 

[QuickDEMOL1SHER]

It seems that in this day and age, a large amount of fiction portrays the human race as a group of assholes compared to any other sentient races. Think about it, pretty much all fantasy has elves as the tree loving peaceful people, dwarfs as the honorable guys who know not to mess with stuff they shouldn't and almost every time the humans are either cutting down the tree's, taking land that they shouldn't or unleashing some evil being.

In Sci-Fi you have we are more often then not, the young, backwards aggressive race that screws everything up. Like in the new movie Avatar. Fuck those cat-elf thing, I like humans!

Do we just hate ourselves?

An interesting thread to come across given my latest original fiction project. Basically, we lost a war against aliens (caused by trepassing onto a holy planet, tainted it) and we lost pretty goddamned miserably. Our only surviving world is in another galaxy and we're not doing too well there either (fighting an extra-galactic menace with practically zero military strength). Originally, I portray the main cast as noble, doing what is right no matter what the cost to themselves, from saving puppies to starting a civil war to destroy the humans who have become xenophobic and threatening the rest of the race's existence. However, as it goes on, I start to twist them, turning them into monsters. For example, they destroy a planet for it's power source, killing seven billion sapient lifeforms and annihilating two distinct races in the process. But, this power source later helps them fight off a bad guy and save countless others, though at the cost of losing their own world once more (twice in three years, that's got to suck ). I'm hoping to make the distinction slow and subtle and leave with the ultimate point of "What the hell are we? Good guys or bad guys?" Other, more subtle points are "Space battles are cool" and "please praise me."

So yeah, I'll keep an eye on this thread... looks like it may help me out a bit...

I can't wait to read it!

 

[thejadefalcon]

I can't wait to read it!

It's a fifty story series, you'll be waiting a while. >.>