Don't worry, in my first year bio class, every other freshman was dull, and didn't care about the class. I just focused on my own work and ended up getting the highest grade in the class. If you want to be a bio class that take the subject seriously then join AP bio your senior year of high school. That's what i did.
I am absolutely flabbergasted
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#1 rule of life. People are stupid. Understand that, and the number of surprises you experience will drop dramatically
I'm a creationist up to a point, I take the view that evolution is possible (and likely) but that we don't all come from a common ancestor. I'm perfectly happy that in a thousand years a Tiger could be a little cat, not so happy it could be a whale. Admittedly I'm not a biologist and I go to a church so you can disregard everything I say al a Richard Dawkins.
However I am going to university next year and am sufficiently bright to have applied to Oxford, no one's managed to persuade me I'm wrong yet.
As for the idiot who didn't turn up for donkey's then moaned about her workload. Just no. People like that slow the rest of the world down, as do those supporting drugs in pretty much any form as 'good'. (NB, not medical drugs, medical drugs are good, they keep me alive)
Basically it's more important that we retain free speech et al rather than 'proving' that one of the lobbies are completely correct. If we persist we end up with conflict (see the crusades and Al queda) if we just accept our differences then there will be happiness and chocolate and ponies and other nice things.
However I am going to university next year and am sufficiently bright to have applied to Oxford, no one's managed to persuade me I'm wrong yet.
As for the idiot who didn't turn up for donkey's then moaned about her workload. Just no. People like that slow the rest of the world down, as do those supporting drugs in pretty much any form as 'good'. (NB, not medical drugs, medical drugs are good, they keep me alive)
Basically it's more important that we retain free speech et al rather than 'proving' that one of the lobbies are completely correct. If we persist we end up with conflict (see the crusades and Al queda) if we just accept our differences then there will be happiness and chocolate and ponies and other nice things.
Shouldn't this thread be in the religion and politics section? I'm not even going to bother joining the 'debate', as I won't touch religious junk-science with a ten foot pole.
Please keep your 'creationist biologists' as far away from public education as possible. Thank you.
EDIT: Thank you to the mod who deleted my double post! ^_^
Please keep your 'creationist biologists' as far away from public education as possible. Thank you.
EDIT: Thank you to the mod who deleted my double post! ^_^
In my experience they say they're biologists or geologists (with degrees and everything), but in their arguments make mistakes or, possibly, intentional omissions, on things that first-year students who get Ds in the class would still understand. (I should know, I graded students who failed exams but still got the stream rejuvenation questions right, whereas an alleged geologist gave a talk supporting Young Earth Creationism and pretended that rejuvenated streams didn't exist. They may call themselves scientists, but they are completely undeserving of the term.Jmurray21 said:
Except it's not just a matter of opinion or of acceptance. It's about being just plain unqualified for your job. If you think evolution or natural selection don't happen, then you don't know enough about biology to be fit for work in the field. That's all there is to it. I'm not sure how to convey to you just how solid the evidence for it is, not to mention the fact that it's observed in real-time in creatures with sufficiently small intervals between generations, such as bacteria.Jmurray21 said:
Possibly, depending on why you're a creationist.Jmurray21 said:
Then it's more likely that you're not stupid. Well, actually, you were talking about the whole evolution-deniers-as-biologists thing as a matter of acceptance, which is a really stupid comment to make. Reminds me of this one doonesbury comic...Jmurray21 said:
Yeah. It's not about acceptance or lack of it.
I remember and old friend telling me that her son didn't believe in evolution because he was a Christian. That is actually what he hold her.
EDIT: Some places define it as a branch of biology, other as chemistry. I'll leave this as a huge question mark for now.Fasckira said:
I am sorry for your burden. Hopefully they will all drop out in a few months when they finally fail the class.Spot1990 said:
Again, if you met someone who chose to major in advanced mathematics, perhaps engineering, and rejected arithmetic, would you respect that opinion? We shouldn't just respect everyone's opinion. Some people are wrong, and some people are ridiculously wrong.esperandote said:
You're absolutely positive that he wasn't just taking the piss? I mean, you are the one who thought to bring up Creationism to a science major... Sounds to me like he was just having a laugh at your expense.AtheistGuy said:
There is a big problem that ALWAYS creeps up in these debates and its never addressed.
The problem is the word "evolution". And its used interchangeably between "evolution" and "the theory of evolution" and "the theory of evolution with the caveat.......we evolved from monkeys therefore there is no God or creator now shut your mouth your superstitious boob"
The problem is the word "evolution". And its used interchangeably between "evolution" and "the theory of evolution" and "the theory of evolution with the caveat.......we evolved from monkeys therefore there is no God or creator now shut your mouth your superstitious boob"
That's what I thought it was. Till I heard his stupid questions. Kidding or not that's just unacceptable.EdwardOrchard said: