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Assassin Xaero

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Max Goldfine said:
It is impossible to create something out of nothing, right?
Well, about that... what I've come to figure out in my life is that "impossible" means "we haven't figured out how yet". The "laws" of nature and all that stuff are man made, based on their understandings of everything at the time, so nothing says they can't change.

At the same time, though, if nothing can be created or destroyed, just transferred, where did everything come from?
 

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I heard a speech in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood that touched on all of these same points. Not that it detracts from anything, it's a fantastic show.
 

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Well, in this matter it all depends on your perspective. It is true that everything is essentially at it's core matter(and energy? I don't really know how to correctly refer to it, but from how I understand it matter and energy can't be destroyed, or we haven't figured out how to destroy it yet, it can only be changed, so) only in different forms and it all gets recycled eventually into something new one way or another.

So if we're going to, on a philosophical level, assume the "I think, therefor I am" position and accept that everything around us can simply be real in our own heads, which makes it an illusion and, well, our creation in a way.
Does this make us gods? Well, if you want to see it that way, then sure, we're "gods".

I personally don't really think about stuff like this at all, I just end up confusing myself and just go play pokémon or something. :p
 

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my take god no idea interesting probably a scientific thing to prove other wise but cool thought.

I have felt over the last couple of years that we do not know even understand are self-vs. how often does the general human take a very deep look of honesty inside them self to under stand them self-vs completely.

i personally believe the only sure thing in life is that every thing ends...
 

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Max Goldfine said:
so after 22 years of life, here is what i can come up with so far.

It is impossible to create something out of nothing, right? so everything that is in this planet, you, me, every partical of existance had to have allready existed in space before the forming of planet earth.

so everything that is inside you is also inside the universe. in a way you are a universe, you are THE universe.

we are the creaters of all this right here.

if life is truly random and chaotic than the only thing that one can be sure of is themselves. it is the only thing that you have control over and can positively without a doubt KNOW.

I am god, you are god. We are god.

Sorry if this is incomprehensible blabber, its late and i'm tired. i think i will watch some ghost in the shell and go to sleep.

Goodnight gods.

Edit: for the record i know this sounds a lot like five percent islam. i draw a lot of insperation from the wu tang on this one.

Double edit after reading some posts: I am not solipsistic. I acknowledge that you exist as your own indepent entity. what i tried to say in this post is that everything is connected. we are all the same amorphus goo. I am you, and i am god, so you are god, and we are all together.

Tripple edit: I have never seen Babylon 5.
I don't understand! How did you come to the logical conclusion that just because we share commonalities with the raw materials of the universe (which we do) we somehow created the universe?

We are a part of the universe, not its creators.
 

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SomeLameStuff said:
That was... both confusing and logical.

On another note, since water doesn't get destroyed, only recycled, it is entirely possible the next time you get a glass of water, you're drinking dinosaur piss...

Food (or drink) for thought.
That's sort of like how whenever I take a shower in my dorm, the steam condenses on the ceiling and drips back down as a slow, cold drip on my head every few seconds. Thus making me feel both uncomfortable and unclean by the time I'm done. Gotta love the stages of matter.
 

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*shrugs* Profound or not, I heard pretty much that exact same ramble from just about every intro philosophy student I've ever known. Take a little bit Star Wars (the Force surrounds us, binds us together), a little bit Descartes (I think, therefore I am), and random bits from other philosophers that I can't remember by name and don't feel like looking up right now.
 

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Water can be broken down into its base elements, Its not that hard actually, On the other hand, super giant carbon molecules such as graphite is very hard to break.
 

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I feel like I've heard this theory before.... Not saying you stole it, but humans have been around for a while, so occasional repeats are to be expected.
 

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Max Goldfine said:
so after 22 years of life, here is what i can come up with so far.

It is impossible to create something out of nothing, right? so everything that is in this planet, you, me, every partical of existance had to have allready existed in space before the forming of planet earth.

so everything that is inside you is also inside the universe. in a way you are a universe, you are THE universe.

we are the creaters of all this right here.

if life is truly random and chaotic than the only thing that one can be sure of is themselves. it is the only thing that you have control over and can positively without a doubt KNOW.

I am god, you are god. We are god.

Sorry if this is incomprehensible blabber, its late and i'm tired. i think i will watch some ghost in the shell and go to sleep.

Goodnight gods.

Edit: for the record i know this sounds a lot like five percent islam. i draw a lot of insperation from the wu tang on this one.

Double edit after reading some posts: I am not solipsistic. I acknowledge that you exist as your own indepent entity. what i tried to say in this post is that everything is connected. we are all the same amorphus goo. I am you, and i am god, so you are god, and we are all together.

Tripple edit: I have never seen Babylon 5.
You most certainly are NOT my god.

I swear, the rampant atheism on this site sickens me, sometimes. Heavy doses of atheism and liberalism pepper these boards. I can only hope some of you come to your senses one day. Go ahead and flame away at me for saying as such.
 

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Nothing like philosophical debate about the nature of existence to get the creative juices running.
My personal take on the whole 'What's our place in the universe?' thing, is that the universe is a maze and every life form, self aware or not, is trying to find the exit. No one being can see more than there own section of the maze so collaboration and communication is essential to solving the puzzle. Eventually, when every being in the universe is working in tandem, they will find God (which I believe to be more of a cosmic blueprint than a omniscient father/mother entity) and the puzzle is solved. Cue next 'Big Bang'.
Possibly not the most original idea (Marvel did something similar in Galactus's origin) but I prefer the idea of universal peace and cooperation, to the idea of galactic annihilation due to egotistically prejudiced beliefs.

PS - Just to clarify for anyone reading this as Star Trek meets Babylon 5, I don't necessarily see human beings reaching the end; evolution is as much about discarding dead weight as it is about improving.
 

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Riff Moonraker said:
Max Goldfine said:
so after 22 years of life, here is what i can come up with so far.

It is impossible to create something out of nothing, right? so everything that is in this planet, you, me, every partical of existance had to have allready existed in space before the forming of planet earth.

so everything that is inside you is also inside the universe. in a way you are a universe, you are THE universe.

we are the creaters of all this right here.

if life is truly random and chaotic than the only thing that one can be sure of is themselves. it is the only thing that you have control over and can positively without a doubt KNOW.

I am god, you are god. We are god.

Sorry if this is incomprehensible blabber, its late and i'm tired. i think i will watch some ghost in the shell and go to sleep.

Goodnight gods.

Edit: for the record i know this sounds a lot like five percent islam. i draw a lot of insperation from the wu tang on this one.

Double edit after reading some posts: I am not solipsistic. I acknowledge that you exist as your own indepent entity. what i tried to say in this post is that everything is connected. we are all the same amorphus goo. I am you, and i am god, so you are god, and we are all together.

Tripple edit: I have never seen Babylon 5.
You most certainly are NOT my god.

I swear, the rampant atheism on this site sickens me, sometimes. Heavy doses of atheism and liberalism pepper these boards. I can only hope some of you come to your senses one day. Go ahead and flame away at me for saying as such.
I can't be insulted by these people, this post is too ridiculous to be true.
Just chill man, they can't possibly be serious about this, it's just too stupid.

I doubt God himself wouldn't laugh.
 

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green_dude said:
For something to be god, it has to be at least Omnipotent, preferably Omniscient and maybe Omnipresent.
Which collapses in on itself, because any omnipotent being would be able to MAKE themselves omnipresent and omniscient too, else they are not truly omnipotent. Hence a god must be all three.
 

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Max Goldfine said:
so everything that is inside you is also inside the universe. in a way you are a universe, you part of THE universe.
Fixed for sense-making purposes.

And even if that wasn't a massive leap over a logic wall, it still doesn't take into account how one defines a god in the first place.

Sorry =P