I Dont Understand: Humans

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awesomeClaw

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Trezu said:
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Wow. This is really stupid.

First off, matey: Evil is relative. There is no "right" or "wrong" for any situation. It is only that which you percieve as wrong that is "evil".

Also: You know what´s a good idea if people harass and threaten you with physical violence? CALL THE POLICE.

They have no right to be doing that according to law. If you catch them in the act, they can get a hefty fine/go to jail. And if someone calls you a coward for doing that, then fuck them.
i cant change the past but i did tell my teachers and nothing happen cept a 'Sorry'
I´m sorry, when did Teachers = Police become a reality? CALL. THE. POLICE.

That´s what i would do.
 

bdcjacko

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Yeah, didn't bother looking because I knew someone else would. Oh well. Still, regardless that's just really weird for a prank. And the advice still applies since its practically how I got through middle school.
I don't know if it is all the weird. It is no different that putting a bunch of rotten fish in a locker.
 

Bomberman4000

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Humans have an inherent philosophy of "It's ok if it's not happening to me" to help sort of explain why you feel people are always find enjoyment from someone else's pain. Schadenfreude. Look it up.

Also, can I just ask how old you are? Because in all honesty this sounds like a 12 year old kid trying to sound deep and meaningful. If I'm wrong I apologize, but I purposely went back and re-read the original post while writing this and it just doesn't seem like the thoughts of someone who's actually had some life experiences and can formulate these opinions for yourself.

ALSO, call me skeptical, but I find it incredibly hard to believe someone put a "sheep carcass" in your locker and then laughed when you vomited. Like I said earlier, if I'm wrong here then I apologize, but this whole post just sounded like you trying to come up with as many awful things to have happened to you so you could complain about the ENTIRE human existence because you know a few people you don't understand.

Just my two cents.

P.S. You may not appreciate your life being speculated as false, but look at it from our perspective. These are pretty radical claims you want us to accept at face value, and you thought no one would question it?
 

bdcjacko

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Trezu said:
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Australia i live in

I plan to Move to Russia i hope
No offense bro, but Russia will be much rougher for you.
I Like the Cold

and if there is Cold there is no Spiders
Can you speak Russian? Do you know anything about the reality of a Russian winter? Have you experienced Russian culture? If you just want cold and no spiders, Canada would be a better fit. At least the speak the same language and Canadians are generally nice.
 

quantumsoul

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Watch this. It'll help you understand the point of this crazy universe and look at humanity in a very different way. Just make sure to watch it to the end.
 

Zeema

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bdcjacko said:
Trezu said:
bdcjacko said:
Trezu said:
Australia i live in

I plan to Move to Russia i hope
No offense bro, but Russia will be much rougher for you.
I Like the Cold

and if there is Cold there is no Spiders
Can you speak Russian? Do you know anything about the reality of a Russian winter? Have you experienced Russian culture? If you just want cold and no spiders, Canada would be a better fit. At least the speak the same language and Canadians are generally nice.
I dont exactly know what country i want to go to just away from Australia

Russia seems like a Nice place and i like the History behind the Country
 

bdcjacko

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Trezu said:
I dont exactly know what country i want to go to just away from Australia

Russia seems like a Nice place and i like the History behind the Country
Well I would suggest you visit it first before committing to living there. And the history of a place isn't the best reason to live there unless you are going to be a historian.

Also what is up with the random capitalization? Nice, history and country don't need caps.
 

tharglet

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The bit at the end of The Hogfather which I like:

Death: Humans need fantasy to *be* human. To be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape.
Susan: With tooth fairies? Hogfathers?
Death: Yes. As practice, you have to start out learning to believe the little lies.
Susan: So we can believe the big ones?
Death: Yes. Justice, mercy, duty. That sort of thing.
Susan: They're not the same at all.
Death: You think so? Then take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder, and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. And yet, you try to act as if there is some ideal order in the world. As if there is some, some rightness in the universe, by which it may be judged.
Susan: But people have got to believe that, or what's the point?
Death: You need to believe in things that aren't true. How else can they become?

Imo, people aren't necessarily inherently good or bad, and are often a big mixture of the two. There'll always be something you don't fundamentally get, it doesn't matter if you understand it or not, but how you deal with it. Bad things will happen - it's learning how to deflect the blows or get over it.
I can understand the funny side of the prank, but it doesn't mean I'd condone such a thing. I prefer to play pranks on people who also understand the funny side, but then again I don't have to play for dominance in the same way.

As you grow up and move into work, you'll probably find that things are easier on the social front - most people, in my experience, end up getting jobs with similar-minded people. I didn't do so well socially at school, for a few reasons, one of them being I was a lot different from most (Geekdom can do that to you). So there is hope out there ^^
 

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quantumsoul said:
Watch this. It'll help you understand the point of this crazy universe and look at humanity in a very different way. Just make sure to watch it to the end.
this was very interesting thank you

bdcjacko said:
Trezu said:
I dont exactly know what country i want to go to just away from Australia

Russia seems like a Nice place and i like the History behind the Country
Well I would suggest you visit it first before committing to living there. And the history of a place isn't the best reason to live there unless you are going to be a historian.

Also what is up with the random capitalization? Nice, history and country don't need caps.
i dont know why i Cap things i just do it maybe i shud travel just one place to the next never settling a traveller
 

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Because if you appear weak then people will step on you it is basic animal instincts, you appear strong or at least seem out of there reach and they might try but if they don't succeed most give up on trying.

In short: The world sucks, deal with it, become a stronger person and look for the positives.

First step is accepting as a wise man once said: "I'm shit, your shit, the entire world's shit"

Also another thing that will help is stop being melodramatic it makes you seem weaker and even if people do feel sorry for you a lot will care too much about the social hierarchy to step in.

People mostly see their bullying as just light hearted teasing (I should know I have done it) or they really don't like you, acting like a coward won't help in either case.
 

interspark

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i agree, there are some people, especially teenagers (not prejudice, i myself am a teenager) who just bring shame to the name of humanity and age isn't always a significant factor, i used to attend a tiny branch of the local college and i thought "wow, college people are really smart and mature!" then one day i got stuck in the main college (long story) so i sat in the library and started reading to kill time and a bunch of brain-dead prats swagger in and start making fun of me for reading a book, i found concellation in the fact that they would be the one's emptying my bins when i get a decent job in the future

long story short, people are deuches sometimes, my advice to you would be to complain until someone listens to you, if the teachers don't care, contact the education board and sort this mess out yourself! don't wait for miracles to happen, you make them happen
 

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I wouldn't be so stupendously arrogant to claim to understand the thoughts and reasoning of humanity as a whole. Human beings are so beautifully and chaotically varied in so many ways. Personality, beliefs, principles, loves, hates and so much more. To try and mount an umbrella explanation for the whole of humanity is nothing short of an act of futility.
 

interspark

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Trezu said:
Australia i live in

I plan to Move to Russia i hope
i like your optimism, i plan to move to japan some day, i'm yet to find anything wrong with that country, i don't really get the charm of russia though, i went there once on holiday in summer, but that place gets cold in winter!!
 

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Sounds like teenaged agist for the most part. Bullies happen because they need a way to have power and attention. They try to force respect, and those around it are to afraid to fight the established order.

Also most people are willing to be helpful when asked, it gives them a sense of doing right. When you get to know people they are much deeper then you give them credit for. Sheep carcasses are no fun, but ultimately its not what most people do. Most strive to do good the best they can, and those who are happy aren't lying to themselves, Its just a matter that we tend to build up the negative things rather than the positive. It just effects us more.
 

Pat8u

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Trezu said:
I never understood how people close themselves to the truth of the world and ignore all warnings and do Evil things. I couldn't grasp why people found so much enjoyment in saying Death Threats and calling me names and people liking them for doing so.

I would have thought that other Humans would hate this kind of behaviour but in my personal experience people like it. Watching people Squirm from Pain and Abuse.

I Couldn't Grasp it and when asking Teachers for there Help they instead made it worst and i couldn't understand. But Using Physical Force people labeled me a Demon because of Trezu.

If humanity is Cruel and Evil then why would someone sacrifice there son to save us?

I never believed in religion because i wondered 'Why Save us'? sure there is good things in this world but the evil out weighs the good.

but then there are people who want to help others, But Teachers/Parents were supposed to help you where were they?

I Noticed in my Experience people being Rewarded by there Peer's for Stealing or having Sex i didn't grasp this either.

After getting Sheep Carcass Thrown into my locker and Vomiting in Disgust i never understood why they laughed at me vomiting?

When i was on the bus i notice People walk pass and put on a face like there happy but there so depressed on the inside. I wondered if they hate themselves why do they act happy?
short answer humans are idiots I am an Idiot everyones an idiot but the strange thing is people are idiots at different things Like how I'm a idiot at personal hygenie and an idiot of dealing with non folk music this can be boiled down to two things we are strange beings

Edit:I live in australia too I am in a catholic school and my current thought of peoples habits are well bad I hate all the dam kids except for the libarary crowd there all nice (yes I have a group of geeks and nerds as my friends cause I am a nerd) I also find religion hard to belive in
 

Pyrokinesis

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1. Go to 4-chan /b/
2. Indulge in the greatness that is the pure unadulterated human
3. Be mentally changed forever
4. ??????
5. Profit!


But seriously though its culture and upbringing that causes it, Anonymity Encourages it, and the internet that facilitates it.
 

Gamblerjoe

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This is how most of the human population is unfortunately. The good news is that later in life, you will be able to pick and chose who you associate with. Once you enter the job market, if you have a professional attitude, and a decent education, you will get jobs over these people, while they and their unplanned offspring starve. Im not trying to make you feel better. This is fact. School may seem like your whole life right now, but once you are removed from it by 10 or so years, you will realize how fast the time goes by, how hard life is for stupid people, and what is really important.

Whether your early experiences where good or bad, it only matters where you are headed in the future. If brutal torment causes you to temporarily abandon your social life and focus on school, they are doing you a favor. If you understand what you are learning but get bad grades from corrupt teachers, it doesnt matter. It only matters what you learn. It has been said that giving false praise is the most malicious thing you can do to a person. All of the students around you who are praised for bad behavior are being cursed. They are honing skills that will do them no good later on in life. Once they leave school, they are going to lack the necessary skills, and the opportunity to gain those skills will have passed them by.
 

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twistedmic said:
I don't think 'evil' really outweighs 'good' when it comes to the general human race. It's just that 'evil' gets much more screen time (so to speak) than 'good' does. Sure, Hitler was a truly evil person and gets a lot of recognition, but all the countless people who fought to put an end to Hitler's evil don't get nearly as much individual recognition. The same goes for murders, rapists, arsonists (generally the scum of the earth), they get way more attention/recognition than all of the people that worked hard to bring them to justice.

As for the people that 'put on a happy face' when their really depressed, maybe they don't want to bother other people with their depression, or they're trying to convince themselves that they are happy.
Good point. I just actually made a hypothesis that the good vastly outweighs the bad. This makes it normal, and who wants to hear about normal? They experience that all the time every day. They want different, something they haven't already experienced countless times before, and evil is different. I admit I don't necessarily believe this myself. I assume most people are assholes until they prove otherwise, but the logic seems solid. Also, happiness is a state of mind. If you can delude yourself into thinking your happy than you're not deluded because you really are happy. I'd question your mental stability in this case, though.
 

beema

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You had a sheep carcass put inside your locker?
jesus
where are you from man? Is this some normal form of hazing where you are? Because here that would be pretty extreme.

I will never understand humans either, for what it's worth. I often feel the same way about the world. I think a lot of people do...
It's funny that we all feel so isolated in these thoughts, yet many of us are thinking the same thing, probably at the same time.

edit: just saw you are from Australia. I'm guessing not in a major city though? Why do you capitalize random words throughout your sentences and have such poor spelling/grammar? Are you from another country originally and moved to Australia later? Is that why you are harassed?