If they feel the need to reinforce their manliness by bragging about their lack of virginity over the internet, then I want to get some popcorn, this is hilarious.White Lightning said:
I don't understand male virgin shaming.
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I did very clearly state them that I am not looking for sex just partnership. But I think women do not take that seriously. I thik they accept it as a challenge. So I think none of the partners I have met or will meet take the idea of "no sex - relationship" seriously.DannyBandicoot said:
People usually don't make a big deal of it if you don't. Never had it happen outside of retardbox360 (where its so ironic its funny.)
Everyone and their dog and their dog's fleas (not saying your dog has fleas) has posted the same thing...so why not add my version. The reason male virgins are shunned is because of outdated gender roles. Men are expected to be big strong and sexual beasts who hunt women like a caveman. (there's some imagery for ya) Of course any "traditional" view of this nature is based of sexist bullshit but apparently won't go away so the stigma still sticks.
Either you've never had it or you (possibly her) are doing it wrong.Delicious Anathema said:
If porn wasn't so readily available I doubt people would be so nonchalant about it. But I do agree the media does often stigmatize males virgins For pretty much the past 2 decades...
Wow! Just wow...
I didn't think this topic would warrant this big and this serious a discussion, but here we are...
I, being a naive and socially-awkward teenager, once bought into the "sex-as-a-rite-of-passage" mindset, that's been pushed by society and a lot of peers who were just as knowledgeable (As in, not very) at how the topic should be handled and approached. The end result was me pursuing and failing at getting girls, which in hindsight, would have created much worse scenarios for me if I had ever succeeded in "getting laid". I still have my pride and self-confidence as a human being and an independent single male, and that's what really counts.
My experiences with this outdated gender role are past, but, as a I said in my short post, I did not understand why exists in the first place. Thankfully, many people who quoted my post answered my question, and I thank you guys for that.
Our outdated and ancient gender roles and how male and female sexuality should be viewed is both backwards (Males are expected to have sex with every single attractive girl that comes their way, but women should save themselves for that perfect man) and harmful in and of itself. The expectation that men should go and have sex and throw themselves at any woman at all and are considered failures if they do not show any or enough interest at all is insulting and harmful to guys for a large number of reasons (What will that hedonistic twat do when he gets an STI or gets his gal pregnant?), but it is also harmful to women in that in that it shames them for putting out at all and sets up this nigh impossible ideal of chastity.
The reason I don't care about having sex without the relationship is because anyone can get it (The sex industry is booming thanks to guys who want to bone women or just want to see them get boned or just see them naked!), and the idea of intercourse with just anyone, let alone someone I am intimately familiar with, just seems really really dull to me.
I didn't think this topic would warrant this big and this serious a discussion, but here we are...
I, being a naive and socially-awkward teenager, once bought into the "sex-as-a-rite-of-passage" mindset, that's been pushed by society and a lot of peers who were just as knowledgeable (As in, not very) at how the topic should be handled and approached. The end result was me pursuing and failing at getting girls, which in hindsight, would have created much worse scenarios for me if I had ever succeeded in "getting laid". I still have my pride and self-confidence as a human being and an independent single male, and that's what really counts.
My experiences with this outdated gender role are past, but, as a I said in my short post, I did not understand why exists in the first place. Thankfully, many people who quoted my post answered my question, and I thank you guys for that.
Our outdated and ancient gender roles and how male and female sexuality should be viewed is both backwards (Males are expected to have sex with every single attractive girl that comes their way, but women should save themselves for that perfect man) and harmful in and of itself. The expectation that men should go and have sex and throw themselves at any woman at all and are considered failures if they do not show any or enough interest at all is insulting and harmful to guys for a large number of reasons (What will that hedonistic twat do when he gets an STI or gets his gal pregnant?), but it is also harmful to women in that in that it shames them for putting out at all and sets up this nigh impossible ideal of chastity.
The reason I don't care about having sex without the relationship is because anyone can get it (The sex industry is booming thanks to guys who want to bone women or just want to see them get boned or just see them naked!), and the idea of intercourse with just anyone, let alone someone I am intimately familiar with, just seems really really dull to me.
I can't speak for women, because I'm not one. I know it's sounds totally hypocritical but I think a woman shouldn't sleep around a lot. One is because of the social stigma she'll get (whore, slut, tramp.. ect ect) even though guys are looked at differently. Total double standard I know, but I've always felt that way. (On the plus side, I know I'm totally wrong in that aspect)Vault101 said:
Sexuality is a good thing that brings nice sensations, but it doesn't even come close to warranting the kind of obsession society puts on it.gphjr14 said:
Ya know, it really doesn't bother me how many people anyone sleeps with. (I've dated some loose women.. as in sleep with anyone.. and the other way too) and everything was good. But I find that women who usually sleep around do so for certian reasons, either someones a sugar daddy, or they have a few sugar daddies or they have a hard time finding someone to stick with so they have multiple boyfriends. Not saying thats true for all women who like to party, but it's been previlant in my experince.Phasmal said:
Your lock and key analogy doesn't make you look sexist at all. The idea that a woman is a lock that can be opened with a key, a key that all men possess, is about as elementary as some schoolyard sex joke amongst prepubescent teens. Get over it. Your key must be pretty shitty if every guy has the same one. Your key sounds average. Don't even attempt to argue my point, because in doing so you belittle the granule of manhood you possess. You don't want anyone to think I actually got under your skin by insulting your views on gender, do you? But if you think with your (o(K you'll have no choice, for a man who is led by manhood lacks restraint. By the way, I'm a virgin. I get off by being a tease. I get others off by being a tease. The real sex happens in the mind. I'm an attractive, athletic, outgoing, well-endowed 25 y.o. man who's an escapist with no regrets, because even if I did have sex I'd never be likened or reduced to those who think as you do. Sex is great, but engaging in a dialogue with those who think on a general wave-length concerning sex is a most incommodious business.srm79 said:
I absolutely loathe male virgin-shaming.
Though in my country, women get virgin-shamed too. Yay equality, I guess. If you're still a virgin at 15, there's something very wrong with you, since you're expected to lose it by 13. And the pressure gets worse the older you get. It makes me quite angry sometimes.
Though in my country, women get virgin-shamed too. Yay equality, I guess. If you're still a virgin at 15, there's something very wrong with you, since you're expected to lose it by 13. And the pressure gets worse the older you get. It makes me quite angry sometimes.
I think it really falls into line a few things:
Age
Around the time that the whole "sex = coolness" thing occurs is around high school, and occasionally can slip into college as well. This is around the time that people are really at their peak of sexual adventure. Along with just wanting to express their wonders in bed, we're also seeking out new approaches or techniques to try out, even if the individual we were with was a one-night stand sort of flick.
Biology
This will sound idiotic, but just hear me out; it'll make sense by the end.
Women have a preset number of eggs, therefore a preset number of children they can birth. Men on the other hand constantly generate semen; we can technically have an infinite amount of children (provided there's an infinite supply of women). Men also were originally the hunters, so we've always been very aggressive. Telling another person that we've slept with this girl is, in a way, a sort of territorial mark.
Social Status
You really can't argue and suggest that women aren't treated more like objects than men are. The idea of sleeping with more women could be compared to collectibles; the more of such an item you have, the better of a collector you are. The more women you've slept with, the bigger of a man you are. This one's a bit harder to explain, but when you think about it, it's relatively clear.
As far as virgin = there's something wrong with you, it falls in line with the whole issue of this is when we're (biologically speaking/due to puberty) supposed to be procreating and having children. The fact that you haven't even attempted to partake in the act of trying to conceive a child would suggest that you have some sort of issue with procreating.
Also there's just long-winded social stigmas that keep them alive to this day. It's not really something that will disappear for a while, if ever, I think. It may drop in number, but I doubt it'll ever disappear.
Age
Around the time that the whole "sex = coolness" thing occurs is around high school, and occasionally can slip into college as well. This is around the time that people are really at their peak of sexual adventure. Along with just wanting to express their wonders in bed, we're also seeking out new approaches or techniques to try out, even if the individual we were with was a one-night stand sort of flick.
Biology
This will sound idiotic, but just hear me out; it'll make sense by the end.
Women have a preset number of eggs, therefore a preset number of children they can birth. Men on the other hand constantly generate semen; we can technically have an infinite amount of children (provided there's an infinite supply of women). Men also were originally the hunters, so we've always been very aggressive. Telling another person that we've slept with this girl is, in a way, a sort of territorial mark.
Social Status
You really can't argue and suggest that women aren't treated more like objects than men are. The idea of sleeping with more women could be compared to collectibles; the more of such an item you have, the better of a collector you are. The more women you've slept with, the bigger of a man you are. This one's a bit harder to explain, but when you think about it, it's relatively clear.
As far as virgin = there's something wrong with you, it falls in line with the whole issue of this is when we're (biologically speaking/due to puberty) supposed to be procreating and having children. The fact that you haven't even attempted to partake in the act of trying to conceive a child would suggest that you have some sort of issue with procreating.
Also there's just long-winded social stigmas that keep them alive to this day. It's not really something that will disappear for a while, if ever, I think. It may drop in number, but I doubt it'll ever disappear.
Because people are fuckin' stupid. Okay, like, if you were 30 and, not due to an actual medical inability, you've not had sex then fine, you're doing something wrong, but the act of a guy not fucking isn't reason to take the piss. I'm still to young to be expected to have done the deed though so what do I know?
Wow. So even if you didn't get from my second paragraph that the first was firmly tongue-in-cheek, if you had bothered to read a few more posts before jumping on the outrage bus you would have got to the post where I categorically stated for the benefit of another halfwit who didn't get it that it was intended in good humour. Sheesh...Itsmyvirginlife said:
Why does this fact make people stupid? You need to explain your position please. It's very easy to say in response to anything "people are stupid tehehhe" but you need to back that up.White Lightning said:
1) Why was this necro'd?
2) Fairly simple. Mating is a natural human process to continue the species, at it's heart. Being more advanced than mere animals of course, we often do it simply, well, because shit feels good bro.
However, that instinct is still there somewhere. Thus, someone failing to get laid, even only for recreational purposes, becomes someone failing to be a functional human being.
At least that's how I think it works, being a complete perma virgin myself. Hell, I downright believe that I have failed to be a functional human being, everyone else I know has managed it, it can't be that hard, yet I fail to attract anyone.
2) Fairly simple. Mating is a natural human process to continue the species, at it's heart. Being more advanced than mere animals of course, we often do it simply, well, because shit feels good bro.
However, that instinct is still there somewhere. Thus, someone failing to get laid, even only for recreational purposes, becomes someone failing to be a functional human being.
At least that's how I think it works, being a complete perma virgin myself. Hell, I downright believe that I have failed to be a functional human being, everyone else I know has managed it, it can't be that hard, yet I fail to attract anyone.