I hate being white....

[MysticToast]

Every race has committed there fair share of crimes throughout history, just forget it. I'm just mad that im white because there are tons of scholarships for any other race and im left getting some lousy ones.

This man speaks the truth. About his first point and especially his second point. Man that's annoying.

OT: I don't hate being white. You know why? Because I didn't do anything. I didn't commit any crimes or enslave anyone. People that happen to have had the same skin color as me did, long ago.

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

Cracker you be trippin (I'm white as a ghost so don't report me for that). Yes white people have committed abhorrent atrocities throughout the course of history, but there nothing that you have any personal responsibility for. That's like holding contemporary German people accountable for the things their ancestors did. I don't judge people by race I see them as individuals, the crimes committed by white people weren't becasue of the color of their skin it's because they were vile, bigoted, avaricious and sadistic excuses for human beings. All that you can do is set a good example to follow, we've reached an age where most of the western is tolerant of others, so those acting in a disreputable manner will be judged as an individual not because of their race, gender or sexuality.

 

[ks1234]

A. When you use "you're" in that context, you're using it wrong. It should be "your"
B. Let me guess, you're one of those chicks that will get with a black guy and let him treat her like shit just to make up for "slavery & black oppression". I see it all of the time, and i'm just like "wtf?"
C. If you think it's the "white culture" is the culture in North America that is "shallow and stupid" then you have never been around very many black people (ima kill this *****, fuck her mom, shoot this fucker in the face, and rep my hood) or the Asian culture who pride themselves on how much money they can make or the Muslim culture who oppresses their women, or even the Hispanic culture ... who ... Party and drink all of the time? (idk, I cant think of much to say bc i'm dating a Mexican girl and i've never had any bad experiences with them
D. Do you see how fucking stupid all of these generalized statements are? Because, that's what kind of generalized statements you just made about white people.
E. You say you "hate" that "most likely your ancestors were the cause of so much pain and suffering" EVERY GODDAMN CULTURE HAS THAT! EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM! You can't repent for what your ancestors did, it was them, not YOU.
F. I know i'm probably going to get reported and/or banned for this... that's fine, I said what I said because It needed to be said.

 

[GigaHz]

Wait wait wait...

It's the year 2011 and race is still relevant?

Who gives a flying f*ck what color your skin is? If some white dude in Nebraska decides to stick his dick in a lawnmower, I'm not going to hang my head in shame or feel connected to the incident in any way. Why should I feel that way about events years ago that I had no chance to play a part in?

The people who care about race today are either looking to start shit or exploit something about THEIR race, essentially perpetuating racism themselves. The only use for race in todays (civilized) society is to mark the roots where your family came from. Oppression is irrelevant because slavery has been non-existant for some time now and everybody possesses the means to succeed given the right plan and execution.

 

[Smooth Operator]

What the heck... this is hilarious, it sounds like you copy pasted some Twilight monologue.

Do you also hate how you sparkle in the sun?

 

[penguindude42]

The biggest downside to being white is the inability to get away with bicycle theft.

Yes, I seriously just made a Punch-Out reference in a serious thread. U MAD?

~Tom<3

 

[Woodsey]

Assuming you're not gay you're only one step away from essentially the most privileged group to have ever existed. You haven't done any of the shit you've listed so there's nothing to feel guilty about.

 

[ntw3001]

Why is Native American culture superior? I rather suspect it's due to a romantic view of a victimised people. It's just a series of cultural traits, not necessarily superior to any other. The idea of the 'noble savage' is pretty patronising in my view.

Caucasian history and culture is scarcely 'shallow'. It's only relatively recently established in North America; the real history of this racial group is in Europe.

And regarding the past treatment of other cultures: That probably wasn't you. Any guilt for something other people did is as misplaced as blame for something that was done to other people.

 

[mad825]

Good thing you aren't German, Russian or Bosnian then.

 

[Korak the Mad]

I don't want to be a dick, but suck it up. Unless you personally are responsible for the things you have white-guilt over, you're just being histrionic. Get over it.

Exactly.

Just be happy with who you are and don't let it burden you. If you didn't do anything that you're guilty of, then don't let it affect the majority of your life.

It's not the color of skin that you have that defines you, but it is your mind and personal preferences that do.

 

[WouldYouKindly]

Well, I'm of Irish descent. We owned no slaves and fought to free the ones in the U.S.(I'm talking recent history here, like in the last 8-900 years) I've got none of that white guilt because the Irish are probably pretty high up in populations that have been shat on by history, 1st probably being the Jews. The Irish might be about 4th or 5th. Slavs had shit pretty rough for a while, as have Africans and Indians(both kinds).

Oh god, this is making me depressed. I get really sick of ethnics trying to make me hang for the sins of my fathers. And it's not even my fathers; I'm slavic. My race was enslaved by "the white man" for several hundred years, but you don't see me complaining.

Then explain that shit to them. It's what I always do.

 

[Toar]

I hate being white, but is because everyone else hates me for being white. Never mind that I have a diverse family tree, but because I have blue eyes and white skin I am the sin on the planet. I enslaved every black man and woman on the planet, droped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and I might as well have fucked my sister because I am Alabamaian too!

Ethnic cultures blame white people with racism and I can see why, but I'm not a racist. The reason I would be racist is because EVERY person of a different color or ethic background decides that it is my fault for my forefathers behavior. Well, you know what, I resent you folk just as much as you resent me. I did not sign the contract or trap the slave (although white people did not go to Africa to trap slaves, the other African tribes trapped thier African brothers and sold them to the highest bidder.)

 

[Skjalg Kreutzer]

Being norwegian, I have never been able to identify with this massive guilt towards other ethnicities. My ancestors never enslaved another race, neither in ancient times or more modern (the vikings did keep slaves, though, just usually white ones).

I may be white, but I have never done anything remotely racist in my entire life. Neither has anyone in either my immediate or extended family, past or present, to the best of my knowledge. I do have german ancestors, dating back to the late 1700's, so it's entirely possible that some individuals in the long lost german line of the family were nazis, but that has nothing to do with me.

In short, my conscience is clean.

So should yours be. You have done absolutely nothing wrong, and you are in no way responsible for the actions of those who came before you. How could you?

It's true that europeans (and later americans) have done many terrible, terrible things. But we can't possibly be considered guilty because of that!

I study history at the Uni in Trondheim (NTNU). We had a guest speaker in african history once, an african man named John something or other. He had a very enlightening and to me very new perspective on slavery: Slavery was nothing new to the african tribes the europeans had dealings with. They practiced slavery themselves, and the kings of the regions traded slaves for riches with the european slave merchants. Arabs had taken african slaves for centuries by that point, and even before that slavery was known and a part of the culture of many african peoples.

My point is, the world is a horrible place. Bad stuff has happened, happens and will happen. And we can only influence that in a very limited way as individuals.
You are not to blame for the sins of your fathers. No one is.

 

[Squarez]

Deal with it. You're the most privileged person ever to live, in any time period, in all of history. Suck it up.

OH GOD THIS.

 

[Zenacra]

take some anti-depressants, that'll clear you right up. if you still feel guilty, consult your local surgeon on skin-darkening treatments if being white bothers you THAT much. it's like my shrink told me yesterday, if ever there was a time when you could change an aspect of your body you find unpleasant, it's now.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Seriously? Why do all white people get painted with the same brush when it was only a couple of white countries. Really to me it seems you more hate being North American than being white. So no the "White" race does not suck.

 

[cthulhumythos]

Really? huh. i find this strange. due to the fact that i'm white and hold a separate opinion.

you just gotta be pessimistic is all. Everyone is probably an asshole in someway or another. the ones who aren't are acting "holier than thou" and thus deserve twice the rage. (i'm joking here people)

anywho, don't get caught up on things that happened way before your birth. unless you've committed a serious hatecrime yourself and regret it, your just being silly. you've done nothing wrong.

 

[Lilani]

-snip-

Considering how you resent it so much, you obviously aren't, or try not to be, shallow or stupid. And I'm fairly certain you weren't managing slave trade routes in the 1800s. You do not embody those things, so why should you be ashamed? Those things aren't your fault, and there is nothing you can do about them.

Let your own character define who you are, not the color of your skin. Your race says nothing about who you are, or what you have done. You aren't an oppressor of the black people as much as any random Asian person off the street isn't Attila the Hun. And if you do find out later that one of your ancestors did have something to do with the slave trade, what does it matter? That's not you. You have no control over that.

Nobody cares about that sort of stuff. They want to know who you are, not who your great, great, great, great grandfather was.

Try to think about why all of that bothers you. Are you trying to avoid other personal questions about yourself by using the guilt of others to avoid the subject? Are you taking on that guilt because it is something you can't change, and thus a problem you never can or have to confront? Like an easy way out of having to think about the things you can change?

It's still your turn. This is your problem. It was never ours to begin with.

 

[ExaltedK9]

((Forward: I'm not flame bating, I'm not trolling...This a a real opinion that I carry in my mind. I've seen some really good debates about race and culture here. I thought I'd bring my own feelings to the table.))

I do. I hate it. I hate that North American white culture is so shallow and stupid. I hate that my very existence represents all the horrible things that were done to the superior, and noble native peoples of this land (and other amazing creeds and cultures as well). I hate that most likely my ancestors were the cause of so much pain, and suffering.

I hate my hazel eyes, my pale skin, and my blonde hair. I look at myself and i see a monster.

I've cried over this...and I still do sometimes.Hell part of my ongoing struggle with depression is my deep deep cultural, and racial guilt.

Yes yes I know 'Why is she saying all of this?' but what I want to know is...Am I alone in feeling this way? is anyone else as hurt and sad as I am about being white?

Also, well, what can I do to bring myself out of this? Can I bring myself out of this?

Should I?

You're turn...

Quit being racist.

I dont give a fuck if you are hating on a group of outsiders or a group of people you belong too yourself.

"I hate the fact that our ancestors blablabla WHITE MEN IS EVIL BAAAAW"

Yeah, not like EVERY FUCKING RACE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH has a history of rape murder.

You look at yourself and see monster? Look, im not even going to continue with this post because it would get me banned, but look here: if you hate white people, why dont you stop counting yourself as one of them? Yeah, you look like one, whatever, I hope you get what im saying anyway, its hard for me to put any effort into this post since I am pretty sure this is just puberty talking, and if not, go get help or some shit like that.

Point of the matter is, with that post, you arent just saying you hate yourself, you are insulting me and my family, me and my people, for no valid reason. Next time, keep it to yourself.

This. Racial guilt shouldn't be inherint. Unless you did those things yourself, Sstop being such a bleeding heart about it.

 

[RyQ_TMC]

I hate that my very existence represents all the horrible things that were done to the superior, and noble native peoples of this land (and other amazing creeds and cultures as well). I hate that most likely my ancestors were the cause of so much pain, and suffering.

I'll just leave it like that.

As for my reply: People are generally dicks. Representatives of all ethnicities, creeds (including atheists), political groups and however you want to categorize people have indulged in atrocities against others simply because they didn't belong to the group they considered "theirs". That includes "noble native peoples of this land".

Everyone is defined by their own actions, not by the actions of their ancestors, countrymen or what have you.

Sorry for harsh words, but it seems to me you have it too easy and are just making up problems you can whine about.