I hate being white....

[Farson89]

Well, it's unanimous. The OP is being silly, or rather stupid, to an almost incomprehensible degree.

1. Lrn 2 history. Every race has committed terrible atrocities, do you think the Native Americans sat arouns holding hands until white people arrived? Nope, they already had significant practice at killing the shit out of each other and, lets not forget, butting the top of each other's heads off.

2. You are not responsible for your ancestor's crimes, white guilt and anyone who feels it is retarded. My country was conquered by the Romans about two thousand years ago, many of the people were enslaved, raped and killed, do I think the Italians of today should even give a shit? Nope.

3. You are silly, very very silly.

 

[Sordak]

I love it when Black people want me to feel bad for them.

no slavers in my ancestry, heck in my country.

yeah they teach me to feel bad for jews but honestly i didnt run a KZ and i didnt shot any gypsies so i i just dont care. realy i dont.

 

[MorsePacific]

You're extremely oversensitive if you've cried over race crimes that happened before you were even born. To answer your question, I don't feel like this at all. Sure, what happened in the past is regrettable, but you can't do anything to change that and you can't do anything to change your race.

Suck it up, be proud of who you are, and accept everyone as a person.

 

[LikeDustInTheWind]

What have you done personally against the native people and coloured people? Nothing? There you go. Do you blame the grandchildren of the Nazis for what they did? No you don't, so don't worry about it. It's not your fault.

 

[Valis88]

Just to clarify some things. I'm not trolling, I'm a woman, and I haven't replied yet because I'm reading everything and taking it all in. Also what I posted was 100% genuine. That really is how I feel inside. Oh and the whole 'privileged' thing is a component of sadness I feel.

This has been enlightening...really it has. I'll say that in my own experiences reading some history and documentaries and such I gained this idea that 'other cultures' (especially the native noes) were a wonderland of piece and prosperity with a simple life attached to nature. or that unlike like 'white people' they had honor, and traditions that went back to the beginning of time.

I guess in a way I've been concentrating on one thing so much it's warped my own view of myself...and the skin I live in....

I'm still listening...perhaps learning as well...

 

[Danik93]

((Forward: I'm not flame bating, I'm not trolling...This a a real opinion that I carry in my mind. I've seen some really good debates about race and culture here. I thought I'd bring my own feelings to the table.))

I do. I hate it. I hate that North American white culture is so shallow and stupid. I hate that my very existence represents all the horrible things that were done to the superior, and noble native peoples of this land (and other amazing creeds and cultures as well). I hate that most likely my ancestors were the cause of so much pain, and suffering.

I hate my hazel eyes, my pale skin, and my blonde hair. I look at myself and i see a monster.

I've cried over this...and I still do sometimes.Hell part of my ongoing struggle with depression is my deep deep cultural, and racial guilt.

Yes yes I know 'Why is she saying all of this?' but what I want to know is...Am I alone in feeling this way? is anyone else as hurt and sad as I am about being white?

Also, well, what can I do to bring myself out of this? Can I bring myself out of this?

Should I?

You're turn...

Hope this song will cheer you up then!

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[Raesvelg]

lolnoblesavages.

And lolwhiteguilt.

The Native Americans were people, just like everyone else. They exploited the land around them to the maximum extent possible, drove most of the megafauna of both continents into extinction within a few thousand years of their arrival, destroyed their environments to the point of total societal collapse on several occasions, and basically did the same thing as every other human culture on the planet has done whenever their abilities allowed them to.

That includes war and genocide.

 

[Biodeamon]

bah. I can do whatever i'm white!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsN-G6W4d9A

JK. why are you crying over what people did a long time ago. you're you, not them. you did not do those things, they did. they're the horrible people not you. if you really feel bad you should help the people who you feel you've wronged and do some community service or whatever.

 

[The Serpent]

I've cried over this...and I still do sometimes.Hell part of my ongoing struggle with depression is my deep deep cultural, and racial guilt.

You're not the first to lament that, and you won't be last. Whenever my whiny whiteness takes over I just listen to this:


And then I feel all better.

 

[michiehoward]

I think you suffer from identity issues, not race issues, and I feel pretty bad for you/

 

[NickCooley]

Not in the slightest, I refuse to feel guilty about things that happened before my great granddad was so much as a sperm cell. I didn't do it, why should I feel guilty? What wrong have I committed? Having the same melanin levels of some people who did bad things? Being born in the same country as them centuries later? Piss off.

British by the way, in case anyone asks.

This pretty much sums up my viewpoint, with a minor addition.

There's a lot of diversity in our history just like any other culture's history. My ancestors were poor Irish peasants and poor Slovak peasants, my family was too poor to own slaves, too weak to go on crusades, and too stupid to invent the weapons of mass destruction that we see today. I take pride in being who I am because I know that my family had improved their station since the last century.

I think that the problem is that we have so much guilt directed toward us that we forget two very important things:
1.) Being bad and hurting others isn't a 'white' thing, it's a human thing. Everyone has had their share of destruction and stealing so blaming us for being human is like blaming grey squirrels for stealing all of the nuts when it's inherent to all squirrels.
2.) Most of the destruction and pain cause was caused by very very few people at the very tippy-top of the social ladder. I would bet that your ancestors were like mine: poor, ignorant, weak little peasants who kept their mouths shut for hundreds of years and never hurt a fly (I don't mean to insult you if you know for certain that you came from royalty, if you did though you really shouldn't be posting here, you should be out living the high life right now...).
3.) I know, living in America, there's a lot of blame focused on people of European descent. Our education system focuses much more on the horrible things that slave owners did to their slaves than on focusing on the actual Civil War, the cause for the end of slavery in our country. I'm not saying that we didn't do our fair share of stupid, hateful things, we did have slavery and racism. We had those things because we were human, not perfect.

You can feel however you want to feel, I just think you're being a bit short-sighted if you think that we have been the only bad people in the world.

I can't say I know much about my families history but your probably right, the Cooley's have lived in and around Manchester (North West of England, mostly working class) and we sure as hell haven't been in the money so don't worry, no offence taken.

Although after all this I think I will try and learn more about my ancestors. Who knows maybe I'll be the rightfull Duke of Somewhere-shire or something.

 

[Lamppenkeyboard]

Your culture isn't shallow, you are. Deal with it.

 

[boag]

((Forward: I'm not flame bating, I'm not trolling...This a a real opinion that I carry in my mind. I've seen some really good debates about race and culture here. I thought I'd bring my own feelings to the table.))

I do. I hate it. I hate that North American white culture is so shallow and stupid. I hate that my very existence represents all the horrible things that were done to the superior, and noble native peoples of this land (and other amazing creeds and cultures as well). I hate that most likely my ancestors were the cause of so much pain, and suffering.

I hate my hazel eyes, my pale skin, and my blonde hair. I look at myself and i see a monster.

I've cried over this...and I still do sometimes.Hell part of my ongoing struggle with depression is my deep deep cultural, and racial guilt.

Yes yes I know 'Why is she saying all of this?' but what I want to know is...Am I alone in feeling this way? is anyone else as hurt and sad as I am about being white?

Also, well, what can I do to bring myself out of this? Can I bring myself out of this?

Should I?

You're turn...

You are not resposible for any of the actions of the people of the same race that came before you.

You are responsible for your own actions.

If anyone is trying to push this RACIAL GUILT on you, It would be best to either A) avoid them for they are toxic cretins, or B) Confront them by asking them to point out exactly how you are responsible for any of racial crimes.


If their response starts out with "Because the White man did so and so", congratulations, you have met a retarded asshole that will do nothing but spout baseless retoric.

 

[LaBambaMan]

Individuals committed terrible acts based on their beliefs and thought process. Just because they were the same color as you means absolutely fucking nothing.

 

[Renegade-pizza]

Yeah, our ancestors were complete dicks and mistreated others based on melanin levels. They also crafted the modern world. Also, name one culture that didn't do anything that was completely wrong and horrible. Just because they fucked up/people over, doesn't mean you're their reincarnation.

Also, all races are cosmetically different. At heart, were all homosapiens. If one of us does something, the entire species is liable.

Also...Stop being such a little *****!

Accept the genes you've been given! If someone reminds you that "your race" did something horrible, ask them when we began calling it homo-whitey.

 

[Genericjim101]

This sums up all my feelings on the matter:

Damn you good sir, this is exactly what I was thinking X D

 

[Taham]

Lets face it; every race/ethnic group around the world has done a huge amount of atrocities. The British Empire started concentration camps (Second Boer War), the Japanese have several famous torture tecniques (not sure how you spell that), and Muslims and Serbs caused havoc in Bosnia. (Believe it or not, the Muslims were as bad as the Serbs- If you want a good account of that, read Lt Col. Tim Spicers "An Unorthodox Soldier"). The African Zulu tribe sacrificed and enslaved huge amounts of innocents.

Overall, we're all as bad as each other. (As races/ethnic groups- some individuals were beyond nasty)

 

[masher]

Best moment between my friend and our teacher.

Friend - "So MIT didn't accept me..."

Teacher - "You're a great kid, so it's their loss, but to be honest, if you really wanted to go to MIT, you probably should have tried being more, I don't know, Black, Asian, Crippled, or Gay."

 

[silasbufu]

I'm sorry did you just say white culture is shallow and stupid? I don't think sense can be talked into you.

Anyway, I guess you could pull off a Michael Jackson. zing

Offtopic : what the hell is with these "play for free" pop-ups all over my fucking screen?!?!?

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

I think you sound like a whiny asshole. I think you're a fucking moron for thinking your in any way responsible for anything just because you're white. I think anyone who thinks anyone is responsible for anything based purely on the color of their skin or nationality or anything so fucking superficial is a moron. I think you need to suck it up and stop pitying yourself for something that doesn't matter one fucking bit to anyone who matters one fucking bit. I think you need to stop concerning yourself with what you look like and where you come from and start concerning yourself with who you are and what you're going to do. I think that you need to stop complaining because want to hear something? No one wants to hear it. Especially when you're complaining about something this stupid.

That's what i think you should do.