You mean the only normal human on the planet was being a coward while surrounded by beings that can blow up a planet?
I Hate Bulma
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Re watching the regular dragon ball episodes and she's kind of a terrible person there to. She gets introduced by hitting Goku with a car, then she gets out and SEES she hit a little kid, who gets up and is all freaked out, so her first response it shoot him in the face multiple times. After that she tricks said kid into acting as her bodyguard long enough for her to steal his dragonball and then ditch him after she's made her wish.
Also the whole romance between her and Yamcha is really built up in Dragonball and he acts super loyaly towards him, but then for next to no reason whatsoever in dragon ballz she dumps him for a guy that killed him and tried to blow up the planet not all that long ago.
Only characters i remember really liking in dragonball are Piccolo, Yajorobie, Master Roshi, android 16, Korin, Goku, both of his dads, future gohan, future trunks, and kami.
Also the whole romance between her and Yamcha is really built up in Dragonball and he acts super loyaly towards him, but then for next to no reason whatsoever in dragon ballz she dumps him for a guy that killed him and tried to blow up the planet not all that long ago.
Only characters i remember really liking in dragonball are Piccolo, Yajorobie, Master Roshi, android 16, Korin, Goku, both of his dads, future gohan, future trunks, and kami.
Yeah she could be whiny and annoying, but she was also the smartest character on the show so it all kinda balances out.
Whhhaaatt. Come on, she did a very important, if not the MOST important thing on Namek out of all the Z fighters. She was the one who started rooting for the wrong team when she noticed what a hottie Zarbon is AND she took a bubble bath. So useful, and the crab- SO GOOD, almost as good as Mr.Robot.Soviet Heavy said:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100424153815/dragonball/images/1/1b/ZarbonTransformsVsVegetaNV.png
yikes
But one a more serious note (yeah let's get serious about DBZ), I was generally fine with Bulma. She was usually one of the funnier side characters in the show and she was awesome in Battle of Gods. Maybe that's why I've been thinking of her fondly. Drunk Bulma is fun Bulma... and on that note "MY BULMA" (pummels people in thread)
Bulma (DBZ) is like Tea (Yugi-Oh) is like Misty (Pokemon) is like Kaoru (Rurouni Kenshin) is like every other thousand anime support characters. Stand around, yell at the main character, repeat.
WoW Bulma gets a lot of stick here.
Guyz, she haz big b00bzz!1!!1!
I mean I didn't think she was that bad. I mean in most cases I would've done the same thing as her in many episodes (minus all the screaming, maybe...). I mean yeah I work out and such, but when someone jumps at you who is able to fly and destroy cities (or planets) with some weird lazer shit from their eyes, ears and hands, then it's time to go hide in a cave!
Guyz, she haz big b00bzz!1!!1!
I mean I didn't think she was that bad. I mean in most cases I would've done the same thing as her in many episodes (minus all the screaming, maybe...). I mean yeah I work out and such, but when someone jumps at you who is able to fly and destroy cities (or planets) with some weird lazer shit from their eyes, ears and hands, then it's time to go hide in a cave!
I don't think we're watching the same kinds of anime. lolCasual Shinji said:
Most anime women tend to be action girls. You get a few masterminds, some femme fatales, depending on the genre you can get a lot of airheads also, but running scared usually doesn't happen in the ones I watch though at least in Balma's defense...it makes sense that she would run. I mean she isn't a Z warrior and even the Z warriors were running scared from Frieza. Or are we going to pretend that Krillin wasn't running scared from Debora and almost everyone else stronger up the boss ladder on Namek and he was arguably the strongest in there group at that point. I say arguably because Gohan was pretty unreliable at this point.
Also I feel like I should meet the Chichi hate with the fact that through out the series Chichi just wanted what was best for her sons. Was she a little annoying? Sure. Did she want a better life for her son than fighting the magical psychopath of the week? Yeah.
Everything she did she did because she wanted Gohan to have the normal, successful, and happy life that she and Goku didn't exactly get out of Dragon Ball. And then the Cell Games happened and she obviously had to come to terms with the fact that she couldn't protect her children at all from a big mean world with a grisly smile.
Gohan had to step up, had to fight the monsters, and just like that she was helpless to provide him with stability. I use the fact that she decided to train Goten as proof of that. She finally realized she couldn't protect them and that even Goku couldn't do so...so they had to be able to protect themselves.
I'm not sure whose username you're asking about, so I guess I'll answer just in case. My avatar is based on a character I wrote in a novel. I never tried to get it published, since I wrote it in high school and I wasn't very good back then, but I'm still pretty attached to the characters, so I kept one as my avatar. As for Casual Shinji, I have no idea, but I admit I'm rather curious about that too.jamail77 said:
I liked Roshi when he wasn't a perv. I grew up with the edited CN show, so he wasn't quite as bad, but when I saw him in the unedited clips I couldn't stand him. His antics were more then just perverted, they actually crossed the line into disturbing a few times. If they had just made him a wise old man then that would have been fine, but they didn't choose to do that.
But yeah, videl was a more well rounded female character then we'd seen before. She played well off of Gohan, and the emotional connection there was surprisingly believable. It was actually rather hard to watch her fight in the tournament. Heck, she even took on Brolly. Sure it's not canon, and sure she never stood a chance, but damn, you have to admit, that takes moxie.
Bulma's ok. Watched her from the original Dragon ball to Battle of the Gods.
But my favorite "normal" human's always gunna be Agent Mai. I love her design, and her personality. She's talented, but limited.
Yeah, Bulma's hit, and miss, but she's surrounded, and rendered impotent by every last Z fighter, (Even Yajirobe's more useful in a fight!) aside from her intellect which rarely comes into play. That's going to be frustrating, to say the least. Dealing with natural disaster after natural disaster every time there's a fight is taxing on a normal human.
She goes through a lot, and that takes it's toll on a person that can't really lash out in other ways. Being a helpless witness to some of the most powerful fighters in the universe saving the planet will likely screw up most anyone.
On one hand, I'd expect a woman likely on par with Dr. Gero or better in terms of brilliance could make power armor that could let her fight more efficiently. So far what she's done has been laughable, though. then again she'd need the ability to react, and a suit can only do so much.
Then again, she's never been much of a fighter to begin with. Plus this is Dragon ball. Everyone, especially the women tend to get sidelined in favor of the saiyans.. Well the guy saiyans. <.<
Chi Chi used t be the world's most powerful woman, but she's been overshadowed by at least 1 human woman (Videl, I'd imagine), and numerous others.
18 more or less retires from fighting despite being able to pummel a super saiyan which is no small feat, though battles quickly force the saiyans to get stronger than they were, so she lags behind, badly.
Videl is basically useless in a major fight.
Pan will likely never go super saiyan coz women just don't (Despite the boys picking it up with comedic speed) which hampers her a lot, though this will likely change with the Xenoverse game for what it's worth.
Bra? She's not going to pick up combat.
Agent Mai? Comedic relief.
I'd say they'd never let the main dudes get whooped by a woman, but it's happened a few times, and pretty much is never spoken of ever again.
You get the idea.
... and I got off track.
Bulma? She does what she can, and copes how she can (being cranky) for better or worse. It's not an easy life for her. It really isn't.
Bulma likely was used to being top of the heap in her world. Brilliant, able to get by on her own (And it was a dangerous world, and she survived on her own so far!), then she meets Goku, and that begins to change really rapidly. That's hard on a person, and acceptance doesn't always come easy.
But my favorite "normal" human's always gunna be Agent Mai. I love her design, and her personality. She's talented, but limited.
Yeah, Bulma's hit, and miss, but she's surrounded, and rendered impotent by every last Z fighter, (Even Yajirobe's more useful in a fight!) aside from her intellect which rarely comes into play. That's going to be frustrating, to say the least. Dealing with natural disaster after natural disaster every time there's a fight is taxing on a normal human.
She goes through a lot, and that takes it's toll on a person that can't really lash out in other ways. Being a helpless witness to some of the most powerful fighters in the universe saving the planet will likely screw up most anyone.
On one hand, I'd expect a woman likely on par with Dr. Gero or better in terms of brilliance could make power armor that could let her fight more efficiently. So far what she's done has been laughable, though. then again she'd need the ability to react, and a suit can only do so much.
Then again, she's never been much of a fighter to begin with. Plus this is Dragon ball. Everyone, especially the women tend to get sidelined in favor of the saiyans.. Well the guy saiyans. <.<
Chi Chi used t be the world's most powerful woman, but she's been overshadowed by at least 1 human woman (Videl, I'd imagine), and numerous others.
18 more or less retires from fighting despite being able to pummel a super saiyan which is no small feat, though battles quickly force the saiyans to get stronger than they were, so she lags behind, badly.
Videl is basically useless in a major fight.
Pan will likely never go super saiyan coz women just don't (Despite the boys picking it up with comedic speed) which hampers her a lot, though this will likely change with the Xenoverse game for what it's worth.
Bra? She's not going to pick up combat.
Agent Mai? Comedic relief.
I'd say they'd never let the main dudes get whooped by a woman, but it's happened a few times, and pretty much is never spoken of ever again.
You get the idea.
... and I got off track.
Bulma? She does what she can, and copes how she can (being cranky) for better or worse. It's not an easy life for her. It really isn't.
Bulma likely was used to being top of the heap in her world. Brilliant, able to get by on her own (And it was a dangerous world, and she survived on her own so far!), then she meets Goku, and that begins to change really rapidly. That's hard on a person, and acceptance doesn't always come easy.
She honestly was a much more interesting character in dragon ball and became extra naggy in DBZ.
She definitely shouldn't have went to Namek. (She's a technical genius, but not very genre savvy.) It just made her the butt of jokes in filler when she could have been helping her dad build Goku's spaceship. But, then we would have her gushing(in nasty ways in DBZA) about that hunk, Zarbon.
At least, she mostly mellowed out after that and went back to being the team's main tech wizard. (Except following them, with her infant son in the car too, when everyone was fighting Dr. Gero was damned stupid.)
At least, she mostly mellowed out after that and went back to being the team's main tech wizard. (Except following them, with her infant son in the car too, when everyone was fighting Dr. Gero was damned stupid.)
Soviet Heavy said:
I don't think you understand that I dislike her as a spoiled brat character, and I'm pretty sure the beginning episodes count. I respect your opinion of Bulma, but I have to disagree, she is one of the worst characters in the series. Well, to me at leastKolby Jack said:
Vegeta is one of very few characters in the entire series with any depth at all, because of his complicated relationship with Goku.SonCamKu said:
I also always thought it was tragic that they never bothered to explore how the hell he and Bulma could have ended up together.
Since actual character development might have been interesting to watch... but no, let's just take turns grunting at each other for a few episodes while Goku powers up, instead.
To be fair, Z was just the alien special power escalation hour for all intents and purposes.grassgremlin said:
I love Z, I love Goku and his outlook both on life and his friends and what it means to wield power no just for your own benefit but for the benefit of all around you. I enjoy how he enjoys his life. But all of that doesn't stop things from being pretty shallow in places and things getting bogged down in power levels and special transformations.
Which I think Toriyama sort of agrees with seeing as he has recently been quoted as saying that Goku is going to focus less on SSJ and more on training his base form.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/720091-dragon-ball-z-battle-of-z/69240589
Sorry, about that. I usually separate multiple connected quotes into their own separate quotes, so each user knows I'm referring to them specifically. I didn't feel like doing it that time because I've been doing it a lot and like my posts to vary from each other. Well, it was that and I thought it might make my post messier even though, usually, it makes my posts look cleaner. I was asking about user Colour Scientist by the way hence why those parentheses were put next to my mention of her name. The only part of my post that addresses you is the 2nd paragraph that starts off with "Fox12:", so you knew what was relevant to you. Though, the backstory on your name was interesting nonetheless even if I wasn't interested in you specifically. Next time, I'll just go back to separating quotes. Oh wait...this is next time. Separating your quote time!Fox12 said:
Fair enough. It's a common anime trope unfortunately. I still think Chi Chi was the most annoying character though even she was tolerable all considered.Fox12 said:
Regarding emotional connection, I completely agree. When she urged Gohan to save the world again after he told her the truth about Cell, when she was told Gohan may be dead, even before all that when she was training with Gohan were all moments I surprisingly felt connected to. It's not like the series was known for such emotional connections. I mean, yeah there were emotional connections, but not romantically though there was more to Videl's emotional moments than the romantic stuff like the tournament fight you mention and her standing up to Broly.Fox12 said: