I hate Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

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Commerford

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As a whole piece I enjoyed the film, the directing and acting were extremely well executed, the fight scenes with Bane and Batman made me feel extremely clostrophobic(sp), but in a good way. All the actors smashed there roles (looking at you Anne Hathaway and Tom Hardy) wish she got more screen time (and stuff to actually do). Although I reckon they gave to much story telling power to Nolan because as pointed out, it just gets insanely mental and no one but the baddies ever have a clue what is going on.

On topic of things that don't make any sense, I was confused for the entirety of the film why Bane was wearing the mask, some BS about it feeding him pain killers... BUT WHY FEED HIM PAINKILLERS IN THE MOUTH ALL THE TIME?!?!? Tom Hardy/Bane is a huge dude, and therefore would have to eat a ridiculous amount of protein and calories every day to stay that size, but how on earth is he eating anything with his face covered all the time. If anyone can shed some light on this it would be welcome. (Oh and of course you can punch massive holes into a concrete pillar but one blow to Batman doesn't knock his head clean off).

P.S. Why wait 5 months to destroy Gotham, just blow it up day one, go home, happy days for the league of shadows.

P.P.S. Just start killing people Batman, it would make your films last less than just short of an eternity.
 

ServebotFrank

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Soviet Heavy said:
ServebotFrank said:
Why is everyone suddenly saying that Bruce lived? I thought it was implied that Alfred was just fantasizing about it. There's no way Bruce lived from that explosion. So common sense says that he's dead and that whole thing is a fantasy Alfred imagined due to his sadness of Bruce being dead.
If so, then why was Anne Hathaway there? Alfred had exactly one scene with her, and he didn't even realize she was Selina at the time. He had no idea she would become Bruce's love interest. So why would she be there?

Wasn't he there when Bruce looked her up? Hell he probably heard about what happened from Gordon or someone who was there at the scene that they essentially made out before the sacrifice. Just kinda speculating here but it makes more sense then Batman surviving stupidly impossible odds.
 

Sexy Devil

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ServebotFrank said:
Soviet Heavy said:
ServebotFrank said:
Why is everyone suddenly saying that Bruce lived? I thought it was implied that Alfred was just fantasizing about it. There's no way Bruce lived from that explosion. So common sense says that he's dead and that whole thing is a fantasy Alfred imagined due to his sadness of Bruce being dead.
If so, then why was Anne Hathaway there? Alfred had exactly one scene with her, and he didn't even realize she was Selina at the time. He had no idea she would become Bruce's love interest. So why would she be there?

Wasn't he there when Bruce looked her up? Hell he probably heard about what happened from Gordon or someone who was there at the scene that they essentially made out before the sacrifice. Just kinda speculating here but it makes more sense then Batman surviving stupidly impossible odds.
The idea was that the autopilot was fixed so he bailed out as soon at some point after the bridge.
 

Rhaff

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The Heik said:
There are concepts I agree with you on completely, other parts I somewhat disagree with you on. However, since I just saw The Dark Knight Rises today.. I shall admit a few things I agree with you on:

-snips-

- Bane's voice.. it sounded to 'high classed' and it echoed all around so it felt like he was talking through a speaker rather then directly himself. Just a tough looking guy needs a more sinister or least deeper voice then... that. It was even worse then Batman's voice.
-snips-
People seem to be forgetting or ignorant of the fact that, while comic book and animated series Bane is made ridiculously strong by venom, he is almost always described as a well spoken and highly intelligent man, on par or even superior to Batman, and almost equal to Ras 'al Ghul. Of course the movie doesn't tell the viewers this in all that great detail, but he understands most subjects well enough that he could be considered an expert on a great number of topics, speaking several languages, and having mastered several methods of combat, both hand to hand and weaponry.
When I considered this in relation to his portrayal in the film, I actually got very disappointed, especially with the Talia twist..

Also, about all the tech and what not, keep in mind that the movie takes place at least 8 years in the "future", assuming that Begins takes place roughly the same year it came out. So while the specs may be somewhat off (Im looking at you fusion nuke), the tech is not all that unbelievable..
 

Jimber_Jam

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The nuclear reactors we use for power are fission reactors. They generate power by splitting atoms. The reactor in TDKR is a fusion reactor. It works by combining atoms into heavier elements (this is what powers stars). They are two completely different things, and so far no one has managed to make a fusion reactor IRL, so any claims as to how they work are purely theoretical.
 

The Heik

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Jimber_Jam said:
The nuclear reactors we use for power are fission reactors. They generate power by splitting atoms. The reactor in TDKR is a fusion reactor. It works by combining atoms into heavier elements (this is what powers stars). They are two completely different things, and so far no one has managed to make a fusion reactor IRL, so any claims as to how they work are purely theoretical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

That is a real-life fusion reactor being built right now in Southern France. True it may not be technically operational but at this point humanity knows how they work and how to make them. It's simply that prior to the 21st century we weren't really ready to make them (technology hadn't really caught up with the science). That does not mean that we don't understand the core mechanics behind fusion reactors and when some film is feeding us a line of crap about them.
 

Speed

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I've generally understood fusion energy to be synonymous with "clean" energy. At least, that's the hope and what is generally portrayed in movies. I didn't have a problem with the nuclear blast not contaminating the city on the grounds we were not discussing a typical fission reactor with the resulting radioactivity:

"The international team of researchers - led by Emeritus Professor Heinrich Hora, of the University of New South Wales Department of Theoretical Physics -has shown through computational studies that a special fuel ignited by brief but powerful pulses of energy from new high-energy lasers may be the key to a success that has long eluded physicists. The intense laser beam would be used to ignite a fuel made of light hydrogen and boron-11. The resulting ignition would be largely free of radioactive emissions and would release more than enough energy to generate electricity. The amount of radiation released would be even less than that emitted by current power stations that burn coal, which contains trace amounts of uranium. In another plus, the fuel source is plentiful and readily accessible and the waste product of ignition would be clean helium gas."

Read more at: http://phys.org/news190295239.html#jCp

Now, this isn't the final word on the matter, but insofar as hypothetical clean energy, near-future fusion reactors are concerned regarding a Gotham City, Batman, and whatnot, it's not a stretch to believe the energy released, whether a controlled explosion or via the diabolical schemes of a genius madman in a respirator, could be largely free of radioactive emissions.

As for the Batwing, again, not much of an issue for me. Is it fantastic? Absolutely, but so is the Batpod, did it's presence ruin The Dark Knight?

The Batpod can exist only in Nolan's universe. During promotion work for The Dark Knight, the Tumbler was seen roaring around Nuremberg, not so for the Batpod. The design is so fundamentally flawed, it's incapable of even navigating a racetrack. Much less turning on a dime.

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That all said, I didn't really care much for the Dark Knight Rises, I'm thinking of seeing it again in hopes I might appreciate it more. However, I found the fight scenes disappointing, the story ponderous, and I don't really get the Catwoman/Batman dynamic:

She steals your mother's necklace, fingerprints, your fortune, and her actions almost leave you as a paraplegic in the bottom of a Hell Pit, so ... naturally ... when you see her again, you smile, forgive her, and give her the secret software to erase her past identity.

I mean ... WTF?

Best,
Speed
 

djlukaluke

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Would have loved to see Batman use the radio mic in the Bat
'S, Gotham Bay, Nuke, 30 seconds.'
..And the fans rejoiced...