I hated Fallout 3 for these reasons, would I like Oblivion?

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Sorry bout another one of these threads guys, but I have quite specific problems... I've been playing on the PC, if that affects any opinions at all.

I hated Fallout 3. It was ugly, bleak, boring and I hated having to scrounge for ammo and food which was going to irradiate me anyway. I LOVE exploration in games, it was one of the reasons I bought Fallout, but it is literally all the bloody same. Ruined city, brown wasteland, stony wasteland, junkyard, ruined bridge. Not that I don't like empty and open landscapes, it was just so ugly (which, I understand, is the point).

I'm a hugely aesthetically driven guy, and from the videos I've seen Oblivion's landscape looks absolutely stunning, it's a kind of place I could spend countless hours exploring without ever going into a town. I had no inclination with Fallout to do so because it was so ugly. Also, I'm not a big fan of RPGs, but Oblivion looks like it has just the right amount of RPGness without getting too monotonous and boring. Am I right in this assumption?

Also, a lot of the creatures look ugly and bland, but I can get past that if I can wander alone for the most part, maybe stopping off to kill a wolf or goblin or two, or go fetch a certain kind of leaf for the local drug dealer for a handful of coins

Also, is the melee combat much like in Fallout? Because that was pretty bad, especially in first person. I do intend to play in third person for the most part

Please help!!

Also, I'm sorry, I have no idea how I posted this in Off Topic... Just carelessness on my part I guess.

 

[RatRace123]

I'm not so sure you'd like Oblivion, it's basically all those problems, painted green instead of brown. And the melee combat's pretty much the same, and the third person is horrendous, just as it was in Fallout 3.

I'm not trying to come off sounding like I absolutely hate the game, but if you didn't like Fallout 3 I wouldn't recommend Oblivion.
But who knows, you never truly can tell unless you give it a try.

 

[archvile93]

The level system is completely broken. The combat is easily as bad as Fallout's was except you can't pause the game and let the it do the attacking for you. The only thing it has is that it looks nicer (depending on your environmental preferences) since not everything is ruined, but that doesn't stop it from all looking the same of course. So no, I doubt you'd like it.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Fallout is just Oblivion with guns. If you didn't enjoy one you probably won't like the other.

 

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Sorry bout another one of these threads guys, but I have quite specific problems... I've been playing on the PC, if that affects any opinions at all.

I hated Fallout 3. It was ugly, bleak, boring and I hated having to scrounge for ammo and food which was going to irradiate me anyway. I LOVE exploration in games, it was one of the reasons I bought Fallout, but it is literally all the bloody same. Ruined city, brown wasteland, stony wasteland, junkyard, ruined bridge. Not that I don't like empty and open landscapes, it was just so ugly (which, I understand, is the point).

I'm a hugely aesthetically driven guy, and from the videos I've seen Oblivion's landscape looks absolutely stunning, it's a kind of place I could spend countless hours exploring without ever going into a town. I had no inclination with Fallout to do so because it was so ugly. Also, I'm not a big fan of RPGs, but Oblivion looks like it has just the right amount of RPGness without getting too monotonous and boring. Am I right in this assumption?

Also, a lot of the creatures look ugly and bland, but I can get past that if I can wander alone for the most part, maybe stopping off to kill a wolf or goblin or two, or go fetch a certain kind of leaf for the local drug dealer for a handful of coins

Also, is the melee combat much like in Fallout? Because that was pretty bad, especially in first person. I do intend to play in third person for the most part

Please help!!

Oblivion is the same as well. Hell the entire game is the same forest, ruin, and cave. That is all you ever find and the level system is broken. Melee relies on spamming the fire button until it dies. That's it.

I understand the landscape is also boring, but at least it's beautiful! And I'm okay with button spamming I guess...

Also, you have to level by actually using the ability, right?

 

[FalloutJack]

Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

 

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Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

You know, what with your name and avatar I doubt you are quite the most unbiased in opinion

But I'm not big fan of guns anyway, especially guns I can only fire twelve times before having to go and root through broken shacks for half an hour. I know about weapon degradation, but that's all fine with me, as long as I can get the gold I need

 

[ChupathingyX]

Yes to increase your blade skill you actually have to use "blade" category weapons. To increase your athletics skill you have run a lot. Although personally if you were to ask me, I'd say Morrowind is better than Oblivion, but you might be taken back by the graphics. Although Oblivion has very repetitive dungeons and caves. They all look exactly the same except for maybe some unique plot specific ones. In Morrowind there is much more variety in landscape and caves/dungeons. Not to mention much more variety in weapons, armours and quests.

 

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Yes to increase your blade skill you actually have to use "blade" category weapons. To increase your athletics skill you have run a lot. Although personally if you were to ask me, I'd say Morrowind is better than Oblivion, but you might be taken back by the graphics. Although Oblivion has very repetitive dungeons and caves. They all look exactly the same except for maybe some unique plot specific ones. In Morrowind there is much more variety in landscape and caves/dungeons.

Yeah I have heard from a few guys that Morrowind is better gameplay wise, but as I said, I'm an artist and a very aesthetically driven guy, so graphics over gameplay for me

Is that stupid? Hell yes. Can I change the way I feel? No way

Also, I don't mind that leveling system, it feels like it makes much more sense. How does going out and hammering on goblins for half an hour make you better at cooking or lockpicking?

 

[Skorpyo]

You'd hate Oblivion.

Compared to the number copy-pasted dungeons, tombs, and ruins in Oblivion, Fallout 3 seemed hand-crafted.

 

[Blue_vision]

Sorry bout another one of these threads guys, but I have quite specific problems... I've been playing on the PC, if that affects any opinions at all.

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Please help!!

Sorry to tell you, Oblivion is pretty much the exact same as Fallout, just without the guns, and zombies instead of mutants. The landscape gets samey and boring quite quickly, without the little details that make it interesting. The RPG elements are up the ass, and things (combat especially!) quickly becomes a grind. To top it off, NPC activity in general is an absolute *****, between awkward and immersion-breaking conversation mechanics, and glitchy/awkward speaking and pathfinding. I personally can not understand how it's anywhere near as popular as it.
I did the opposite of you and played Oblivion first. Then I played half an hour of Fallout 3 at a friend's house, realized it was the exact same as Oblivion, and never even thought of buying it afterwards.

EDIT: And the graphics really aren't anything special. Looking at a single tree might be slightly nice, from a 2006 perspective, but it does nothing to excuse the gameplay, or supplement NPCs (actually, it makes them look godawful in my opinion,) or make the landscape any less samey (it's incredibly samey.)

 

[DeASplode]

Since you're playing on the PC, there's mods out there to make Oblivion look a lot better. Exploration in the game is pretty fun although there isn't much variation in the Dungeons. Caves mostly look the same and you might spend ages in one to get pretty mediocre loot. Unless you end up in some Ayelied ruins which usually do have some things in them that are worth the time and effort.

Leveling up isn't hard in Oblivion either, but some skills can take ages to reach Master (level 100). There are again, mods out there to make leveling more fun and meaningful.

I spent a lot of time playing it and I do play it now and again (played on 360 then on PC).

Melee in Fallout 3 is basically Oblivions melee combat. Archery can be fun hunting things like Deer for venison which can either go towards Alchemy to make potions or you could sell it for a couple of gold coins.

If you can get the Vanilla version of the game real cheap, then it's worth it just to try it out and get the general feel for the game. The few guilds and fair amount of side quests do make the game last a while just on it's own.

TL;DR: It's a nice game that you can get into if you like RPG's, mods make the game better.

 

[FalloutJack]

Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

You know, what with your name and avatar I doubt you are quite the most unbiased in opinion

But I'm not big fan of guns anyway, especially guns I can only fire twelve times before having to go and root through broken shacks for half an hour. I know about weapon degradation, but that's all fine with me, as long as I can get the gold I need

Damn, he caught me. Curse you for seeing through my cunning deception.

No, I am big on Fallout, and Persona, and other games. So, I tote the line, and I try to be reasonable about it. So, I didn't make with some kind of rude and unfounded BS about Oblivion. I said it had the same engine and that it takes out the option of ranged combat, largely because it's medieval and stuff. That is...pretty much accurate. Some people call Fallout 3 an Oblivion clone, but I never PLAYED Oblivion, so here in Jack country, it's kind of reversed. It IS nothing personal, insofar as you're not making it personal.

 

[Magnesium360]

Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

You're not right on that much. I like both Fallout 3 and Oblivion, but Oblivion has far more items and abilities than Fallout 3. The amount of work that went into various armor, weapons and misc items was huge. Oblivion is largely copy-and-paste detail with little unique design outside the cities. The landscape itself is unique, but everything on it tends to be mass produced Tree #13 and Ruin #5. Digi7, Oblivion is huge. And if you like the look of the world, you'll have a lot of fun exploring it. I reccomend exploring the Imperial city, then go to Bruma and travel by horse or foot to Anvil. That's a long way but it has some great areas to see on the journey.

 

[Signa]

I understand the landscape is also boring, but at least it's beautiful! And I'm okay with button spamming I guess...

Also, you have to level by actually using the ability, right?

Correct. Everything you do in the game is based off of a skill, and the more you do it, the better you become. Things get a little more confusing where you have 7 separate "Major Skills" that once leveled 10 times, you gain a character level. More HP, attributes, etc. But once again, that system was broken because the monsters level with you, and the attribute bonuses you receive are dependent on the other skills you leveled up before getting your 10th major skill point. If you didn't max out your bonuses before finishing that 10th skill level you won't get as strong as you could have, and monsters wont take this into account. Then there is no way to check your bonuses before leveling, so you have to write every skill increase down each level so that you don't screw up your character (Actually, on the PC, you can use the console to force a level-up and then quick-load once you know what you need). At least if that happens, you can make a custom spell or enchantment and murder anything in your path with level 1 quality weapons.

EDIT: The landscape really isn't that bad, but the problem is it's all the same lush forests and fields. Coming from Morrowind, where you could take a screenshot of any random area, I probably could identify where you took that shot from. It would be a lot harder for me to figure out the same in Oblivion. That's how it all looks samey.

 

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Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

You're not right on that much. I like both Fallout 3 and Oblivion, but Oblivion has far more items and abilities than Fallout 3. The amount of work that went into various armor, weapons and misc items was huge. Oblivion is largely copy-and-paste detail with little unique design outside the cities. The landscape itself is unique, but everything on it tends to be mass produced Tree #13 and Ruin #5. Digi7, Oblivion is huge. And if you like the look of the world, you'll have a lot of fun exploring it. I reccomend exploring the Imperial city, then go to Bruma and travel by horse or foot to Anvil. That's a long way but it has some great areas to see on the journey.

It has horses too?! That's great!

As I said, I am really looking for a large world to explore and get lost in, with nothing except for a sword, some armour and a few apples to keep me going

The way you have described it sounds great, and it IS only $30 AUD from EB Games... I think I'm going to give it a try, but more opinions would be great

 

[DirgeNovak]

it IS only $30 AUD from EB Games...

God your games are overpriced. I got it for 12$ CAD, also from EB Games...

But OT: I love both games, but the exploration in Oblivion is far, far better than in Fallout. Go for it!