I hated Fallout 3 for these reasons, would I like Oblivion?

[SpaceCop]

Aside from the aforementioned broken levelling system (it gets harder when you level up, training skills you don't need is the best way to maximize your attributes..), the hideous characters and laughable animations, the repetitive dungeons, the generic setting and story, the bizarre NPC behaviours, the uninspired writing, and a couple of boring quests, Oblivion is actually a pretty good game. It's certainly worth what it's selling for these days. And, to repeat a common sentiment, the PC mods apparently do a lot to offset many of those problems.

It can be fun to run out and explore, to find different herbs and plants, to sneak into people's homes at night and nick all their stuff, etcetera.. But actually interacting with NPCs can be a real immersion breaker. There are like 4 different voice actors outside the game's main quest, and NPC dialogue is wildly inconsistent--a character will great you with an angry "WHAT?" before cheerfully giving you helpful directions around town, and then angrily telling you to get lost.

 

[Dimensional Vortex]

Sorry bout another one of these threads guys, but I have quite specific problems... I've been playing on the PC, if that affects any opinions at all.

I hated Fallout 3. It was ugly, bleak, boring and I hated having to scrounge for ammo and food which was going to irradiate me anyway. I LOVE exploration in games, it was one of the reasons I bought Fallout, but it is literally all the bloody same. Ruined city, brown wasteland, stony wasteland, junkyard, ruined bridge. Not that I don't like empty and open landscapes, it was just so ugly (which, I understand, is the point).

I'm a hugely aesthetically driven guy, and from the videos I've seen Oblivion's landscape looks absolutely stunning, it's a kind of place I could spend countless hours exploring without ever going into a town. I had no inclination with Fallout to do so because it was so ugly. Also, I'm not a big fan of RPGs, but Oblivion looks like it has just the right amount of RPGness without getting too monotonous and boring. Am I right in this assumption?

Also, a lot of the creatures look ugly and bland, but I can get past that if I can wander alone for the most part, maybe stopping off to kill a wolf or goblin or two, or go fetch a certain kind of leaf for the local drug dealer for a handful of coins

Also, is the melee combat much like in Fallout? Because that was pretty bad, especially in first person. I do intend to play in third person for the most part

Please help!!

Oblivion is the same as well. Hell the entire game is the same forest, ruin, and cave. That is all you ever find and the level system is broken. Melee relies on spamming the fire button until it dies. That's it.

I understand the landscape is also boring, but at least it's beautiful! And I'm okay with button spamming I guess...

Also, you have to level by actually using the ability, right?

Just on a quick assumption here, it seems like you are setting your expectations too high for Oblivion, and even if it is similar to Fallout 3 if you go into it with the right mind you will love the game and wont care if it is similar to Fallout 3.

 

[Canid117]

It isn't as ugly but there isn't much variety. I never got that far into it but I do remember that.

 

[Joshimodo]

Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

Less guns, but more alchemy, herb-related stuff(?), armour purpose, magic spells, enchanting, enemy types, etc.


On topic, yeah - You probably won't enjoy Oblivion. It's got more variance in location aesthetics than Fallout 3/New Vegas, and would probably appeal to you MORE...But there's a large portion copy-pasted (interior areas, mostly).

Location-wise, Oblivion has more to offer. Gameplay (combat) wise, Fallout has more to offer.


Ah, PC user. Then yeah, you haven't actually played Fallout 3 then - The mod community can fix some of the visual ailments of the game.

However, Oblivion's mod community have MASSIVELY changed the game, especially if you have the Shivering Isles DLC.

http://www.tesnexus.com/

Enjoy, you'll lose thousands of hours now.

 

[lacktheknack]

Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

Nope. The Oblivion gun equivalent are Magic Staffs.

Yes, you should definitely try it... so long as you mod it to death. Every single problem (boring landscape, ugly enemies, bad leveling, glitches...) has been modded out by someone, somewhere.

 

[Tdc2182]

It looks like you aren't gonna like it.

The caves, dungeons, and many of the houses look almost identical.

So, yeah. Best to avoid it.

 

[Tdc2182]

Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

Uhhh, I beg to differ.

All in all, I'd have to say Oblivion and Fallout are pretty much equal in terms of..."stuff".

Oblivion had waaay much more in terms of civilization. The weapons were also much more plentiful in Oblivion, what with Fallout having multiple special weapons that were the same gun with a different name (although Oblivion did that also, but still had more varieties of weapon bases).

 

[Vault101]

I hated oblivion but loved fallout 3 this kind of this is really different from person to person

 

[Hexal6]

The similarities of oblivion and fallout are described in ZP's review of fallout 3. Both start underground, where an introductory tutorial level type thing let you choose your name, appearance, class ect. over time. Oblivion's tutorial is much shorter but not as interesting. Another similarity is thst when you leave the underground forever, the land rools out around you. The world map is huge, but, like fallout, the fast travel system renders it pointless. Oblvion has a much prettier forrests and the trees allowing enemies to suprise you make up for being on the watch for landmines. Both allow you to pick different conversation options but fallout was better at it, conversation options could change anything in fallout, while in oblivion it basically just determines weather you accept, decline, or delay a quest. Oblivion has no radiation or other similar basic penalty for eating, and no karma level tracker. One thing Oblivion does that is unique to most other RPGs is the leveling system. When you pick or make your class, you pick 7 (as opposed to 3) favored skills. You gain experience to level up your skills when you use them, and you gain experience toward leveling your character when you level you favored or major skills. This means that you can have ANY kind of character, violent or not. If you were extremely boring, you could make a travelling merchant who gains experisnce trading with people and making others like you more. in most rpgs you get exp from killing monsters or doing quests, in oblivion you get told or item rewards for quests and experieence toward your weapon of choice. Both require you to repair items, but in oblivion you just use commonly found hammers to repair eqquipment. As you level up (wich is very slow until you get the hang of it), you will unlock more types of items, armor, weapons, and enemies in a more colorful variety than you would in fallout. Oblivion also has more variety in area, while the forrest may get boring, there are other places like ancient ruins to the planes of hell to explore. I also reccoment the Shivering isles expansion pack, you wont be missing too much if you skip out on Knights of the nine, except one set of magic armour/weapons that you cant even use if you like to murder people. I do not reccoment third person view, especially if you plan on playing a ranged type character. there is more combat variety with the melee skills as you level up in the skills. Finally on PC, if ever you get bored with the content on the game, there is TONS of user made downloadable content available for free, from NPCs to reskinns to quests to areas to items to everything. DO get the game. If you actually red all of that, you are awesome.

 

[FalloutJack]

Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

Nope. The Oblivion gun equivalent are Magic Staffs.

Yes, you should definitely try it... so long as you mod it to death. Every single problem (boring landscape, ugly enemies, bad leveling, glitches...) has been modded out by someone, somewhere.

Okay, I like that people telling me wrong here are doing it in a reasonable fashion. I'm not gonna bother to argue them either, because you all obviously played the game. On this response in particular, though, I have a comment to say, and that is this: If I were playing either of these games on a PC with the possibility of mods, I'd STILL be playing Fallout because of the mods IT has...like actually flying your own vertibird, calling in all kinds of troops, spawning all kinds of neat stuff and having more options to build your character out of. It may come down to the fact that I just like Fallout, but there it is.

 

[lacktheknack]

Well, unfortunately for you, I like Fallout 3. I haven't played Oblivion, but it's the same engine and such but with NO GUNS. So, if you hated Fallout 3, then welcome to Fallout 3 with less stuff in it. Sorry, Oblivion users, but you have to admit I'm right on that much.

Nope. The Oblivion gun equivalent are Magic Staffs.

Yes, you should definitely try it... so long as you mod it to death. Every single problem (boring landscape, ugly enemies, bad leveling, glitches...) has been modded out by someone, somewhere.

Okay, I like that people telling me wrong here are doing it in a reasonable fashion. I'm not gonna bother to argue them either, because you all obviously played the game. On this response in particular, though, I have a comment to say, and that is this: If I were playing either of these games on a PC with the possibility of mods, I'd STILL be playing Fallout because of the mods IT has...like actually flying your own vertibird, calling in all kinds of troops, spawning all kinds of neat stuff and having more options to build your character out of. It may come down to the fact that I just like Fallout, but there it is.

Yeah, pretty much. Vertibirds are cool, but so are dragons. And calling down the wrath of hell on people. But, to each his own...

 

[Mr.Incognitus]

I'm pretty much just re-stating what others have said, if you are getting it on PC its completely worth it for the massive amounts of mods you can find, including the following one for changing up the scenery quite a lot
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19370

 

[leady129]

Yeah I have heard from a few guys that Morrowind is better gameplay wise, but as I said, I'm an artist and a very aesthetically driven guy, so graphics over gameplay for me

Graphics first, eh? Well the prettiest game I've seen lately is Castlevania: Lords of Shadow followed closely by Red Dead Redemption.

 

[Peteron]

Sorry bout another one of these threads guys, but I have quite specific problems... I've been playing on the PC, if that affects any opinions at all.

I hated Fallout 3. It was ugly, bleak, boring and I hated having to scrounge for ammo and food which was going to irradiate me anyway. I LOVE exploration in games, it was one of the reasons I bought Fallout, but it is literally all the bloody same. Ruined city, brown wasteland, stony wasteland, junkyard, ruined bridge. Not that I don't like empty and open landscapes, it was just so ugly (which, I understand, is the point).

I'm a hugely aesthetically driven guy, and from the videos I've seen Oblivion's landscape looks absolutely stunning, it's a kind of place I could spend countless hours exploring without ever going into a town. I had no inclination with Fallout to do so because it was so ugly. Also, I'm not a big fan of RPGs, but Oblivion looks like it has just the right amount of RPGness without getting too monotonous and boring. Am I right in this assumption?

Also, a lot of the creatures look ugly and bland, but I can get past that if I can wander alone for the most part, maybe stopping off to kill a wolf or goblin or two, or go fetch a certain kind of leaf for the local drug dealer for a handful of coins

Also, is the melee combat much like in Fallout? Because that was pretty bad, especially in first person. I do intend to play in third person for the most part

Please help!!

Also, I'm sorry, I have no idea how I posted this in Off Topic... Just carelessness on my part I guess.

Are you sure you were playing Fallout? There is no way you did not like the best game ever. Preposterous. Anyway, Oblivion to me is always second to Fallout, so you might not like it. However, I am sure TES5 will be much better, so you may have to wait a few.

 

[LiftYourSkinnyFists]

Sorry bout another one of these threads guys, but I have quite specific problems... I've been playing on the PC, if that affects any opinions at all.

I hated Fallout 3. It was ugly, bleak, boring and I hated having to scrounge for ammo and food which was going to irradiate me anyway. I LOVE exploration in games, it was one of the reasons I bought Fallout, but it is literally all the bloody same. Ruined city, brown wasteland, stony wasteland, junkyard, ruined bridge. Not that I don't like empty and open landscapes, it was just so ugly (which, I understand, is the point).

I'm a hugely aesthetically driven guy, and from the videos I've seen Oblivion's landscape looks absolutely stunning, it's a kind of place I could spend countless hours exploring without ever going into a town. I had no inclination with Fallout to do so because it was so ugly. Also, I'm not a big fan of RPGs, but Oblivion looks like it has just the right amount of RPGness without getting too monotonous and boring. Am I right in this assumption?

Also, a lot of the creatures look ugly and bland, but I can get past that if I can wander alone for the most part, maybe stopping off to kill a wolf or goblin or two, or go fetch a certain kind of leaf for the local drug dealer for a handful of coins

Also, is the melee combat much like in Fallout? Because that was pretty bad, especially in first person. I do intend to play in third person for the most part

Please help!!

Also, I'm sorry, I have no idea how I posted this in Off Topic... Just carelessness on my part I guess.

I think you should give Oblivion a go, don't do melee though try bow or sword or spellcaster etc.

There are even addons to make the already lovely scenery better for PC.

 

[FalloutJack]

Here, let's just snip that in the bud.

Yeah, pretty much. Vertibirds are cool, but so are dragons. And calling down the wrath of hell on people. But, to each his own...

Hey, don't get me wrong. I love fantasy, but I was hit with cyberpunk elements first. Tron, Knight Rider, The Black Hole, and so on. Who wouldn't want a vehicle like the one Section 9 uses?

 

[tokyodove]

personally i enjoyed both fallout as well as oblivion, which has been out for a while now, so its not going to break the bank if you buy it and it turns out to be a bad game. personally i think the quests in oblivion were more interesting then those in fallout

 

[vgmaster831]

Unfortunately for you, I don't think most of these people understand your inquiry. Oblivion is much more beautiful than Fallout 3. It has its problems, but it definitely deserves its game of the year title. There is tons to explore, and the idiots who say that everything is the same are obviously not very attentive. The overall aesthetic is pretty much uniform throughout the game, but that is because it takes place in one region. Plus, there are subtle variations that are fun to pick up on. It's a great game to explore and even better to play. People who try to emulate Yahtzee and pick up on every little fault and blow it out of proportion forget that that is Yahtzee's job. He's a critic though, and if he said it was good it wouldn't be funny. I suggest you get Oblivion, I think that you would like it based on what you've said.

 

[Squilookle]

Sorry bout another one of these threads guys, but I have quite specific problems... I've been playing on the PC, if that affects any opinions at all.

I hated Fallout 3. It was ugly, bleak, boring and I hated having to scrounge for ammo and food which was going to irradiate me anyway. I LOVE exploration in games, it was one of the reasons I bought Fallout, but it is literally all the bloody same. Ruined city, brown wasteland, stony wasteland, junkyard, ruined bridge. Not that I don't like empty and open landscapes, it was just so ugly (which, I understand, is the point).

I'm a hugely aesthetically driven guy, and from the videos I've seen Oblivion's landscape looks absolutely stunning, it's a kind of place I could spend countless hours exploring without ever going into a town. I had no inclination with Fallout to do so because it was so ugly. Also, I'm not a big fan of RPGs, but Oblivion looks like it has just the right amount of RPGness without getting too monotonous and boring. Am I right in this assumption?

Also, a lot of the creatures look ugly and bland, but I can get past that if I can wander alone for the most part, maybe stopping off to kill a wolf or goblin or two, or go fetch a certain kind of leaf for the local drug dealer for a handful of coins

Also, is the melee combat much like in Fallout? Because that was pretty bad, especially in first person. I do intend to play in third person for the most part

Please help!!

Also, I'm sorry, I have no idea how I posted this in Off Topic... Just carelessness on my part I guess.

Sounds to me like you should forget Oblivion and just get Minecraft- it'll be right up your alley.