I liked ME3's ending

[burningdragoon]

And I really think it was just a design over-sight, seeing as there's no way for BioWare to know who you're taking.

Of all the things being kept track over the course of 3 games, not having people in your final party show up in the final cutscene is not that complicated. They made sure to have Isabella in DA2 remember if she had sex with the Warden during DA:O (which I'm not complaining about, I thought it was funny), they could handle that. Design oversight, maybe. Couldn't get it working right before deadlines, sure it happens. It's still a mistake though, and should be acknowledged as one.

Admittedly, that's a petty gripe to pull out, but it's also not something that really needs to be defended.

Why no, that wasn't my biggest sore spot with the ending or anything >.>

 

[DigitalAtlas]

Umm. How it that just stupid? I mean it's traditional for the hero to die in an epic like Mass Effect. But saying the hero has to do anything in a game like Mass Effect kind of well defeating of the purpose. Mass Effect is not like Half Life, it's not a train ride.

It's stupid because the ENTIRE GALAXY was war torn, cut-off from one another, and just nearly went into pure extinction battling AI Gods. Rainbows and sunshine are to follow!

Also, Mass Effect kind of sort of.... is a train a ride, especially ME2.

"DigitalAtlas accepted your friendship request on MassEffectBook!" =D

Trust me, that's something that's hard to do on here, haha.

Meh, they could have handled it better. Even though they don't know who you're taking, it's still possible to make a cutscene without plot holes. But considering the ending was most possibly rewritten at one of the last possible moments, the mistake is explainable but still not excusable.

Anyway, I think I'll step away from this thread before it gets too ugly in here. I understand the frustration with the ending, I don't like it being repeated over and over again, since I'm sure more people will take the chance to clarify their reasons for hating the ending.

Quite possible. I think they just got stuck.

As for leaving, amen. After this post.

Of all the things being kept track over the course of 3 games, not having people in your final party show up in the final cutscene is not that complicated. They made sure to have Isabella in DA2 remember if she had sex with the Warden during DA:O (which I'm not complaining about, I thought it was funny), they could handle that. Design oversight, maybe. Couldn't get it working right before deadlines, sure it happens. It's still a mistake though, and should be acknowledged as one.

Admittedly, that's a petty gripe to pull out, but it's also not something that really needs to be defended.

Why no, that wasn't my biggest sore spot with the ending or anything >.>

I respect this post actually. No hostility. *applauds*

Now, see, here's the thing: It isn't something that needs defending.... Until the fans of the game use it as one of the reasons to file a complaint with Federal Trade Commission and angrily claim they're entitled to the creative rights of the game. In fact, if it was just brought up to BioWare civilly, they probably could've patched that in a week or so.

 

[The Pinray]

I don't care about the ending anymore. I don't care about Mass Effect anymore. I'm so burnt out on all of it.

I'm glad you liked it, though, OP. You bring hope to an ever darkening world.

 

[DigitalAtlas]

Ambiguity can be a good thing, the best endings provide both ambiguity but also provide colosudre..both are possible (portal 2)

being depressing/downright stupid is another thing altogether...I wont go into why ME3's endingf failed....but it did

Well, as for it being "downright stupid", I don't know as I haven't played the franchise. However, I fail to see how a depressing ending can be bad, by any stretch of the imagination. If an ending does get an emotion out of you, surely it is effective to some degree, regardless of whether story-wise it is good (characters being killed etc).

Considering they bring out a fucking ghost that uses a magical maguffin to fix everything yet also destroy everything kinda destroys all lines of logic since its the ONLY ending.

No matter what you say, its still a magical ghost child.

The REAL ending should have been when Shepard was hit by the fucking laser beam or when he bled out on the citadel. That has some sort of logic to it.

When you try to make science fiction based on loose rules of science, you don't use magic at the very end. That is considered bad writing. If you put that amount of thought into how element zero works, you should put the same amount of thought into the ending.

You're in the minority, but that's okay. You happen to take the side of journalists and smart people who respect a designer's choice to end their series how they want to and just enjoyed the journey to it.

I didn't hate it either. I thought it was a standard video game ending. It felt like HL1's ending to me. G-Man describes it best: "Rather than offer you the illusion of free choice, I will take the liberty of choosing for you...if and when your time comes round again."

Trust me, it's better to be in the minority here. Any idiot who reacted so harshly and excused it just wants games to be products and nothing but. Seeya in the full digital market, full of no innovations or risks and just a ton of safe bets to only satisfy a player.

Pfft. No.

Saying the designer is exempt from a bad ending is like saying the writer of twilight is exempt from writing a bad story.

Nice way to generalize your opposition. What next? Calling everyone else Neo nazis? Real fucking original there.

Secondly, Mass Effect is not art. Mass Effect is a fan wank. It was NEVER art.

Want art? You really want art? Try the road. Try the original fallouts. Try Planescape: Torment. Try Arcanum.

Mass Effect was never art. The "art" in Mass Effect 3 was so contrived it was worse than the Graveyard, and that game is only 10 seconds long. Saying Mass Effect is art is like saying the Expendables is art, its not.

Stop saying all of gaming is art or all of gaming is a product. Its a false dichotomy. Just stop it. Its getting tiring.

>Claiming I said ME is art
>Word art not in post.

You sir are confusing art with the right to be creative.

That's it, don't care anymore. Every thought you expressed in that post is wrong. That's that.

 

[Eddie the head]

Umm. How it that just stupid? I mean it's traditional for the hero to die in an epic like Mass Effect. But saying the hero has to do anything in a game like Mass Effect kind of well defeating of the purpose. Mass Effect is not like Half Life, it's not a train ride.

It's stupid because the ENTIRE GALAXY was war torn, cut-off from one another, and just nearly went into pure extinction battling AI Gods. Rainbows and sunshine are to follow!

Also, Mass Effect kind of sort of.... is a train a ride, especially ME2.

You see that's not a happy ending that's a perfect ending. Not the same thing, Infamous 2 had a happy ending but it was far form perfect. I will grant that it is on rails but you are at least the conductor so it's not just a ride

 

[Bat Vader]

I didn't hate the Mass Effect 3 ending but it wasn't what I expected. I was hoping it would do what Dragon Age: Origins and tell us what happened afterwards. I am happy to see that is what they are doing in the free ending DLC.

 

[megaadair]

Spoiler bit (warned); I thought it was a good ending, but it didn`t seem tie in with any choices made before hand and they destoryed the mass relays. That sucked.

 

[C117]

Well, I have no issue you with liking it. I mean that's your opinion. But the options weren't really that distinct from one another, well... except what they represent anyway. How they play out as movies and endings were too alike.

I didn't hate the ending. I did initially, then I stopped caring and realized it was just poorly made if anything. What they were going for, sacrifice and all that, I had no issue with. I didn't even really care about the logical strangeness. Lack of closure was the most irritating thing though.

This. I can dig the slightly nonsensical logic, because it has always been hinted that the Reapers are merely the tip of the iceberg. I can dig the sacrifice, because I didn't really expect we'd get out of that unscathed.

What I didn't like was the lack of closure. And that will hopefully be resolved with the upcoming Ending DLC.

 

[endtherapture]

Seriously, people owe BioWare a freakin' fitting grade school apology for their grade-school temper tantrum. Don't demand and get angry, be civil and actually civilly POINT OUT to them what you didn't like. If enough people did that, we'd still get the DLC you all want to buy so damn much and developers could know they can takes risks without having to free being named the worst company in history.

Erm we have pointed out what we didn't like...

It's just to get anything done or get noticed by Bioware you have to SHOUT LOUDS BECAUSE NO ONE LISTENS.

 

[Ryan Minns]

The ending existed to try and make people want more, despite Bioware stating otherwise, ME3 was never intended to be anything more then attempt to sell DLC and you are silly if that is even remotely a good thing. An ending that wasn't raw laziness would have made me hunger for more but it's what we got, I'm done being annoyed about it really, D3 is too close to be annoyed!

 

[Texas Joker 52]

Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I for one? Am glad that SOME people liked it, even though I absolutely loathed it. Why? Because that meant that some people didn't have to go through the disappointment and anger a lot of other fans did, which quite honestly, is something dedicated fans of a compelling story shouldn't have to go through, at least, not for the very reasons we did.

The fact you didn't, and many others didn't, should be seen as a good thing, even from those like me, who hated the damn thing. Of course, that doesn't mean we don't feel that it should be changed, because we do feel that way, at least a substantial, vocal portion of us do. But, that's really neither here nor there, and if you like that ending, you should get the choice to keep it. After all, that was kind of Mass Effects thing, you know?

 

[Ix Rebound]

im kinda indifferent towards the ending,,,
but the music really nailed it!

 

[LawlessSquirrel]

I also picked the 'Green' ending, and I did like it. The stuff around it was abysmal though, in that nothing mattered beyond a score counter.

Your choices don't matter by the end. Only whether or not you made a choice at all.

Also, plot-holes aplenty and last-second retcons to things that happened only minutes ago. Horrible rush-job if I ever saw one. I can't overstate how disappointed I am that they didn't delay the game another year to give it the depth they so clearly wanted before having to cut things down.

But the implications of the ending itself, if all that other stuff was handled right? Very nice.

 

[devilofthemist]

well good for you, i'm glad you enjoyed it, i personally didn't i just found it kind of hollow

 

[Kingjackl]

The ending was some good ideas, just badly presented. Stuff like meeting the creator of the Reapers and deciding how they are dealt with and the rammifications that would have for the galaxy is definately an epic idea and a fitting conclusion to the series. But they let it all go to waste by excluding the other writers, giving it a rushed, unedited feel and having the all-powerful Reaper-creating entity be voiced by a fucking five-year old. Seriously, everythig else about the ending I could stomach, but that kid really needs to die (again).

Still, no matter what you thought of the ending, the rest of the game was exellent and did everything else brilliantly. I'm on my third playthrough and still enjoying it. If not for the controversy, we'd have a definite Game of the Year on our hands.

 

[Sun Flash]

Story wise, I like it too. I'm not a subscriber of Indoctrination Theory as such, but the ending, for me, is open to so much interpretation, I've came up with my own head canon, so much so I'm debating whether or not to try my hand at fan fiction before the DLC comes out.

Spoiler: head canon

Basically I think the Reapers are messing with your head, like in the IT, with the boy and everything but I don't think the final part of the game takes place in your mind, it's as real as any other part of the game. Although I think the Reapers are trying to Indoctrinate you and talk you out of destroying them. Also the ghost kid is lying liar who lies, so he can just shut up

I didn't like the way it was implemented though, purely for the fact that everything was all dramatic and suddenly I've got this whiny kid droning at me for 10 minutes, explaining what everything does.


Also, I was surprised there was no "lose" scenario, where the Reapers do win and continue the cycle, say if you took too long deciding which ending to choose.


by the by, I chose Destroy, since it was the only one that made sense to me (again, story wise) The other two endings fit in, but that's linking in to canon.


In saying this, though, I'm looking forward to the DLC to see what actually happens, and get a bit of closure, even if it will end up dumping all over my ideas.

 

[DigitalAtlas]

I do. You don't because you didn't like it.

I havent even played ME.

Im just fucking tired of these "I like/dont like something" threads. They have no discussion value and they just make the OP look like an attention whore.

Except this is a controversial matter and PERHAPS MAYBE the OP wanted to see if anyone agreed with him, or if he just couldn't see why people disliked it and needed some aid.

 

[j0frenzy]

Also, I was surprised there was no "lose" scenario, where the Reapers do win and continue the cycle, say if you took too long deciding which ending to choose.

Actually, there is. If you don't act after a certain period, you'll get a game over scene saying the crucible has been destroyed.
Meh, I was a little let down by the ending. I didn't entirely hate it, but it had problems. There were a couple of plot holes, some bugs and everything could have been explained better. I had no ability to stop and ask questions at the end.

 

[Acton Hank]

I do. You don't because you didn't like it.

I havent even played ME.

Im just fucking tired of these "I like/dont like something" threads. They have no discussion value and they just make the OP look like an attention whore.

If you don't like these threads then WHY are you here?

 

[Abedeus]

Annnnd, the only thing so far I find any bit stupid is the gltich where someone you had in battle ends up on the Normandy. There is no beaming up in the Mass Effect world. But it's just clearly a glitch.

Back in my day, we called those "plot holes". Something happens and it's not consistent with the events surrounding it.

But I didn't mind the ending. Could have been better, could have been worse. It's basically a significant portion of video game endings. It played out according to my expectations. It's either stupid or really smart with stupid bits thrown in but I accept it anyway.

I... don't see how it could've been worse... Only if the God Child suddenly revealed itself to be the Architect from Matrix, Shepard gaining Neo's powers and Reapers turned out to be Agent Smith. Harbinger being the original one.