I liked the ending to Mass Effect 3

[spartandude]

so ive begun to calm down from the ending, originally it pissed me off so much that i didnt want to play the ME games at all, but once i calmed down i realised i was over reacting and i am playing them again

however the ending still PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF! it was awfull, nonsense, and was exactly what we were promised we wouldnt get and it did render all previous gameplay irrelevent and i do support the movement to have it changed

 

[PonceyMcTosserFaic]

Is it a shame? Yes. Is ripping off the ending and starting again, as directed by the audience, the right response? No.

I gotta tell you, we all need to collectively stop doing this. Asking ourselves a question and then responding with our opinion is not a compelling statement of fact.

As for the rest of it...the audience always has "control", insomuch as their willingness to consume or not consume the product in question drives development. That control has always been here. It's application in this case is no different.

And again, adding more endings to a game with multiple endings does nothing to the artistic integrity. Nothing at all. Even if they release DLC that retcons the ending, it's still just another permutation of the canon. This is a game where genders can be switched around, people live and die, entire civilizations rise and fall, depending on player input. Toggling an ending doesn't chuck it off the cliff of artistic relevance.

see now that makes alot more sense. those are some damn good points. my conflict is that people are not just asking for a new ending, they are demanding it as if they have any authority in the matter. honestly i wouldn't mind a new ending. Off-topic i am not a raging bioware fan. I REALLY wish they hadn't F---ED up C&C4. I was really looking forward to that. but i feel in this case bioware is getting aggro they don't deserve.

What's the demand, though? The demand is just a threat to take their business elsewhere, and that's a threat that every consumer has a fundamental right to exercise. If people were kidnapping Bioware developers it would be one thing. This is just the market responding to a bad decision. As Bioware has more loyal fans than most developers, they're giving them a chance to fix it instead of just pissing off. Bioware's response to this is GRATITUDE. The only people getting upset are random spectators on forums.

ok, that makes sense. off-topic what's with the "Marauder Shields" thing? Do you know anything about that?

 

[BloatedGuppy]

ok, that makes sense. off-topic what's with the "Marauder Shields" thing? Do you know anything about that?

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/marauder-shields

He tried to save us from the ending.

 

[PonceyMcTosserFaic]

ok, that makes sense. off-topic what's with the "Marauder Shields" thing? Do you know anything about that?

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/marauder-shields

He tried to save us from the ending.

ah. well, it is what it is. unless bioware changes it, then "it will be what it will be". still think ME3 is awesome sauce.

 

[tautologico]

I like the idea of the ending, because I believe an "Independence Day"-style ending with people hugging after defeating the bad guys would be really terrible, far worse than what's there in the end. The Reapers and the cycle have lasted for millions of years, in galaxy-wide scale, so ending the cycle should have a huge impact in the galaxy. And the ending does this.

However, I think the idea was badly executed, and this is part of the reason for the backlash. The endings feel rushed, the reasons for everything are badly explained, and the tone changes so drastically from the rest of the games that reacting badly to it is understandable. Although the dream sequences in ME3 try to point to a more "symbolic" direction, it is not enough. By the way, the dream sequences themselves are kinda weak.

So yeah, I like the idea, but not how the ending was actually presented. As for the rest of ME3, it is very good, and probably the best in the series.

 

[Woodsey]

Is it a shame? Yes. Is ripping off the ending and starting again, as directed by the audience, the right response? No.

I gotta tell you, we all need to collectively stop doing this. Asking ourselves a question and then responding with our opinion is not a compelling statement of fact.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were one of those people needed blatant clarification of when something is clearly someone else's opinion. Its my argument in a nutshell, of course its not an attempt to pass something completely subjective off as fact.

 

[Rariow]

I liked what they were trying to pull off: No ending is fully good, every ending is morally suspect and no Shepard would REALLY want to do them. Thing is, what really annoys me is the lack of closure. I'd like to know what happened to the Krogan, the Geth, the Quarians... Where the Reapers right? Will the Geth eventually wipe out life? Or is this peace for good? Will the genophage cure backfire on the galaxy, or will Wrex keep it in control? Most importantly, what the hell is up with the Citadel/Star Child/Catalyst after all?

Apart from the lack of closure, only the incoherence in the "Save you from synthetics destroying you by making synthetics destroy you" policy really annoyed me.

 

[TakeshiLive]

I must say, people who tell others "make your own endings" gets to me. Not because it's offensive or anything but the fact that even if we wanted to- the years it would take to be good at animation along with the budget.. we couldn't do it. Not only that, but when people state their concerns or opinions on the ending, others shout out, "It's their work and art, deal with it because you have no say in what they do."

So.. if that's the case, are we not allowed to be concerned with how Bioware or any company for that matter handles things? Everyone gets on EA for very cheap methods and corrupted schemes that tend to try ripping off consumers sadly and yet when Bioware follows up (with the 1 day DLC deal, the ending of ME3, the message that pops up after ending saying to buy more of their DLC..) some people defend them merely because they feel Bioware knows what it's doing.

To be honest, I don't think they are being considerate. As much as I dislike the ending (I hate it actually), I wouldn't demand they change it but rather hear us out so they prevent making future bad endings or heck a future bad game that rubs players off. But guess what? Bioware closed their feedback forums. Yeah, Casey Hudson (the director) asked for feedback, most people who were civil gave feedback but then Bioware shuts their threads on us and doesn't want to hear anymore criticism. So in truth Casey excuses the ending by saying it's art and that people must respect that... yet, in life people who make art whether it'd be in College, in their careers.. their art are always criticized for the better, to improve. I hope that makes sense because I take art and I always want criticism. Overall if I were to make an ending for a trilogy then I would really want to improve if 90% of the whole community were hating on it for very good reasons.

Fair enough point but I still think the whole thing is completely blown apart. I was myself dissapointed by the ending but I wasn't crushed by it. I'd rather criticize the EA's online service for Mass Effect or any other of their games for that fact (Must create EA account, must redeem online pass, oh what's that? You bought yours second hand? Well, too bad, pay an extra 10 dollars/pounds/euros etc.)

Well, correct me if I'm wrong but did Bioware literally promise the ending it didn't deliver? Admittedly, the final still-ish shot with the (albiet beautiful) landscape felt a little half-arsed. Please do tell me how the ending could be "fixed" in you opinion but it would still have to follow the gameplay and story narrative.

 

[Vuljatar]

well, sorry you didn't like the ending but at the same time IT'S A FUCKING GAME! christ you think someone actually died from all this internet rage. if you didn't like it, make your own damn game, then you can have whatever ending you want. until then STFU. i've played ME1, ME2 and ME3 and liked my ending. not saying it was perfect, but i liked it.

and all i see out of your post is "blahblahblahBUTTHURTblahblahblahCHANGETHEENDINGBECAUSEI'MSOFUCKINGIMPORTANTblahblahblah"

Are you trolling? Because you just ignored my entire post and repeated the same B.S. you said in the first place. If you're not going to even attempt to respond to my points, what is the point of your presence in this thread?

 

[PonceyMcTosserFaic]

well, sorry you didn't like the ending but at the same time IT'S A FUCKING GAME! christ you think someone actually died from all this internet rage. if you didn't like it, make your own damn game, then you can have whatever ending you want. until then STFU. i've played ME1, ME2 and ME3 and liked my ending. not saying it was perfect, but i liked it.

and all i see out of your post is "blahblahblahBUTTHURTblahblahblahCHANGETHEENDINGBECAUSEI'MSOFUCKINGIMPORTANTblahblahblah"

Are you trolling? Because you just ignored my entire post and repeated the same B.S. you said in the first place. If you're not going to even attempt to respond to my points, what is the point of your presence in this thread?

uh, sry? i wasn't trying to ignore you, i was offline prolly. or afk. what where your points pertaining to my post?

 

[Vuljatar]

uh, sry? i wasn't trying to ignore you, i was offline prolly. or afk. what where your points pertaining to my post?

I posted a brief breakdown of why people have a problem with the ending. You responded by ignoring all of my points and saying that I was "butthurt". In fact, you told me outright that that was "all you saw of my post", essentially saying that you either did not read my points or chose to ignore them.

Here's a good article on the subject, if you're willing to actually read it. If however you are simply going to repeat yet again your opinion that I think I'm "SOFUCKINGIMPORTANT", you can save your time and mine by not responding at all.

EDIT: I somehow forgot to post the actual link. http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

 

[PonceyMcTosserFaic]

uh, sry? i wasn't trying to ignore you, i was offline prolly. or afk. what where your points pertaining to my post?

I posted a brief breakdown of why people have a problem with the ending. You responded by ignoring all of my points and saying that I was "butthurt". In fact, you told me outright that that was "all you saw of my post", essentially saying that you either did not read my points or chose to ignore them.

Here's a good article on the subject, if you're willing to actually read it. If however you are simply going to repeat yet again your opinion that I think I'm "SOFUCKINGIMPORTANT", you can save your time and mine by not responding at all.

EDIT: I somehow forgot to post the actual link. http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

ok, i will read this article and think about it. maybe there's intel i missed. thank you.

 

[Yeager942]

Wow, OP. You seem to be

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a perfectly fine fellow who is capable of forming his own opinions. I personally hated the ending, but I wish you a merry day.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

I was going to join in on this thread and state how I personally had no problem with the Mass Effect 3 ending both before and after the Extended Cut DLC, but I see there is still a fair amount of butthurt 8 months later.

Tolerance and acceptance, ho!