I never thought I'd do this...

[Amnestic]

In before "Lose My Virginity"

well, I got laid, didn't think I'd do that in a million years.

Called it!

 

[traceur_]

Turn 1,000,001 years old.

OT: Admit that religion (minus God) has good points to offer us.
Convince my Anglican friend that free-will is a lie ... no nvm I expected that, I happen to be quite a convincing and logical arguer. (Don't try and say free-will does exist cause I have had this argument like 30 times and won all of them and I am too bored to win another one).

Bullshit, you never won once, nor have you ever used any actual logic.

 

[Distorted Stu]

Im reading Twilight now (my avatar is angry!).
Hlel i hated the films but i enjoy reading an di have male friends who hated the film but read the booka nd said they were alright. Im halfish of my way through the book now. Its kind of boring...

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

wordy wordy talky talky

It's the sign of a bad writer, or at least someone who hasn't read as much as they should, to not know to include who is talking in every line of dialogue. It's the first thing you learn about dialogue in any writing class. The phrase "he said" is automatic for readers. It's almost invisible, but it helps make sense of the dialogue so you can follow the conversation logically. Not including it, or replacing said with more colorful adjectives, is a definite sign of bad writing.

Now I never read the book, and I never plan to. My wife read them and said that they're about as good as any other trashy romance novel, and they'll do well because they're aimed at teenage girls. She was right.

On a different note, isn't Edward like 200 years old? What the hell is he doing dating a 17 year old? Why is this not creepy?

Whilst I agree to some extent dialogue identifiers are a requirement, it is equally the mark of poor writing comprehension to consistently use "He said", "She said" for neither amplify the emotional response of the individual for whom has spoken; gradually amounting to a feel of monotony. Additionally you need variation, such as "he replied", "she stated", "they remarked." It may seem insignificant outside the context of a written story however it assists in alleviating the aforementioned repetitiveness.

Spoiler: Were I to rewrite the portion provided, which admittedly is difficult, especially due to my lack of knowledge of how the scene is portrayed. Nonetheless my brief attempt is as followed, albeit hastily written.

"It doesn't rain much there, does it?" he would inquire, while Bella momentarily shrugged, "Three of four times a year." "Wow, what must that have been like?" he responded rather surprised, causing Bella to chuckle. "Sunny" she sarcastically replied, a smirk having become quite apparent.
----
Normally I would use less identifiers and lengthen the dialogue, however I stated I would use what was offered, thus instead I chose to include characterization. My apologies Twilight fans if I butchered Bella.

Now because I hold preference to my own creative work and dislike having to toil under the above limitations, I supply a portion of a story I have written, better clarifying my style of writing. Link [http://login.fanfiction.net/story/story_preview.php?storyid=5226953&chapter=1]

 

[ma55ter_fett]

Nothing.

Everything is a part of my master plan.
My reasoning is simple (actually, it's hellishly complex, and your puny mortal minds could not hope to understand it,): At the end of all things, I want to be able to stand up and say, "Exactly as planned!"

And then I will stand up and say,

"Ha, I have foiled your plans once again!"

Then the, "end of all things" will happen and it won't matter anyway.

 

[Angelus SnV]

I'm actually going to read Twilight, admittedly just to be able to critize it but still.
Edit: It seems that me doing this annoyed some people. Look: I'm free to read whatever I want for whatever reason I want, including to make fun of how bad I think it is, as long as it doesn't break any laws (or forum rules). It's not my fault if you don't understand or don't respect that.

Oh, and I stopped being Christian some time ago, since to me it didn't make sense.

What have you done lately that you thought you'd never do in a million years?

Hey man, i gotcha back (and horrible grammar)...i've actually read (and now own) all of the twilight books, and while i wear my "And Buffy staked Edward, the end" tshirt with pride, i do enjoy the stories...the bedazzled syringes that are the vampire in that series annoy th'snot outta me, but at least Meyer did decent with the Werewolves (not the conventional mythos there either, but an interesting take nonetheless)...th'point is, be yourself dude...like what you like, not what people tell you to....at least you're wantin' to read 'em so you can make an educated decision on wether you like it or not....but then again, folks don't bother with intelligent decisions anymore...

 

[RanD00M]

I never thought that i would get more then 2000 posts by the end of the year.

 

[SquirrelPants]

This is pathetic,
You dont have to read this.
You are not the target audience.
Dont read it just to hate it.
Grow some balls.
Whinge about real problems
<color=FFFFFF>(like your lack of balls)
Fuck you

Bingo!

I'll never understand why people subjugate themselves to watch or read something they know they're gonna hate just to complain about it afterwards. I'm sure I''ll hate Twillight, so I'm not going to read it. I'm sure I'll hat Transformers 2, so I'm not going to watch it.

If you don't like something then just shut up about it.

It's because it's usually so much fun. I don't know why some people do it and then just complain, but it's hilarious to get five or six friends together and watch Twilight. You oughta try it some time.

 

[historybuff]

All right....

You know, there are good books out there? Garth Nix has The Old Kingdom trilogy that has a far more realistic portrayal of human beings with magic and a female lead who doesn't suck.

But, hey, it's your choice; what do I care, right?

 

[Queen Michael]

Carbonic Penguin: Maybe your English teacher told you "she said" is compulsory, but Hemingway didn't find it necessary, and he's a Nobel-winning writer, so I don't think it's that necessary. I know, my reasoning isn't entirely logical, but still, I don't know any writer, Meyer included, who always has lines accompanied by "she said", "he wondered" or other stuff like that.

That's...not really true. Maybe you just don't notice them? Hills Like White Elephants is largely regarded to be one of the best pieces of written dialogue in American literature, and it's certainly regarded as one of Hemingway's best.

http://www.moonstar.com/~acpjr/Blackboard/Common/Stories/WhiteElephants.html

Plenty of dialogue identifiers there. Not in every line, mind you, but in most.

You misunderstand me; what I meant was that Hemingway didn't find it necessary to regard "he said" as compulsory. For instance, in "A clean, well-lighted place" up to twenty lines go by without any "he said".

 

[SquirrelPants]

Why is this whole thread a Twilight argument?
:|

I never thought I would go away from Nintendo, but I gradually lost interest in most of their games and started playing PC games.

 

[MmmFiber]

Read? Who reads actual books anymore?

OT: Not stay in contact with friends, because I'm busy. A while ago, not talking to some of my friends meant something was terribly wrong. Now, it just means everything is status-quo.

 

[Sulu]

I'm actually going to read Twilight, admittedly just to be able to critize it but still.

You've just essentially told us all, "No-one else likes Twilight so I'm gonna follow the in-crowd and be a sheep".

I don't like Twilight either outside of the first book, but at least I have the guts to say I like the first book, in all honesty they're good, its the movies that are crap. You haven't read Twilight so your basing your opinions on baseless conjecture. Your just trying to be another little sheep following the popular belief of the "Cool Kids".

Do yourself a favour, get a life and get opinion of your own. Just because you don't have one yet doesn't give you the right to be peer pressure's *****.

Actually fella the Twighlight franchise is very popular. Therefore I would summise that the 'Cool Kids' are in fact the ones who like it. This is due to the popularity strain of the human genome, a cool kid must be in with the crowd no matter what it is in order to continually become popular. In this instance it would of course be the twighlight club - majority of who are females. Now a Cool Kid would probably want to be popular with members of the opposite sex for issues about reproduction and recreation. To summarise, get your insults right!

P.S Calm down also. Don't tell other people to get a life when you are getting angry on a forum.

 

[justhereforthemoney]

Oh, I rad the title and I half-expected you to say something like I'm removing my two lower ribs so I can suck my own penis.

OT: I never expected myself to drink, I was always very against it as a kid.

 

[AcacianLeaves]

It's the sign of a bad writer, or at least someone who hasn't read as much as they should, to not know to include who is talking in every line of dialogue. It's the first thing you learn about dialogue in any writing class. The phrase "he said" is automatic for readers. It's almost invisible, but it helps make sense of the dialogue so you can follow the conversation logically. Not including it, or replacing said with more colorful adjectives, is a definite sign of bad writing.

Whilst I agree to some extent dialogue identifiers are a requirement, it is equally the mark of poor writing comprehension to consistently use "He said", "She said" for neither amplify the emotional response of the individual for whom has spoken; gradually amounting to a feel of monotony. Additionally you need variation, such as "he replied", "she stated", "they remarked." It may seem insignificant outside the context of a written story however it assists in alleviating the aforementioned repetitiveness.

That's true to a certain extent. Occasionally adding in more descriptive words to signify dialogue is fine and often improves the dialogue. But its equally problematic when authors overuse the descriptive words. When you add in phrases like "replied","stated","exclaimed", etc - it takes the focus away from the actual dialogue and attempts to draw attention to the 'cleverness' of the author.

 

[Smudge91]

The books arn't that bad imo, however the films are just well...awful and should never be seen again.
But anywho nothing really i've done everything in the ordinary apart from chase an abandonned dog around in the cold for an hour before we lost it . We had the intention of giving him to the police but the little thing got away.
Now off i go back to writing about people killing other people in the name of rationality..fun fun.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

I'm actually going to read Twilight, admittedly just to be able to critize it but still.
Edit: It seems that me doing this annoyed some people. Look: I'm free to read whatever I want for whatever reason I want, including to make fun of how bad I think it is, as long as it doesn't break any laws (or forum rules). It's not my fault if you don't understand or don't respect that.

Oh, and I stopped being Christian some time ago, since to me it didn't make sense.

What have you done lately that you thought you'd never do in a million years?

Its dumb its cheesy its not quite as bad as "vampires that sparkle in daylight like gaylords" but there worse things out there I suppose but whatever enjoy and tell us what you think when you get done with it.

 

[gamefreakbsp]

I never thought I would get my learners permit......but I did. Now I am 19 and still don't have my license.

 

[SmartIdiot]

...
I am ditching XP for Win 7.
Though chances are I will get pissed off and switch back but still.

You still have a sweet avatar...

*ahem*
Something I thought I'd never do... making an effort not to be such a dick to people.

 

[GrinningManiac]

And while I'm at it:
""Hey, I'm sorry you had to come to this, Jacob," I apologized. "At any rate, you get your parts, right?""
Meyer feels the need to point out that the words "I'm sorry" are an apology. I just flipped the book open at random yesterday, and immediately found this line. Of course, it could be that everything else is better, but you can't say that this is good writing.

...One second here let me get this right, your bitching because she was describing Bellas tone of voice as apologetic?
If any other author did this no one would care or give a fuck about it

This is pathetic,
You dont have to read this.
You are not the target audience.
Dont read it just to hate it.
Grow some balls.
Whinge about real problems
<color=FFFFFF>(like your lack of balls)
Fuck you

I hate the series for its distinct lack of writing talent, though I respect her right to write it, and that people enjoy it, and that the story is (for some) captivating

I just don't like the quality of the books in pure literary terms. I don't think it's right for people like the OP for randomly ripping it apart JUST because they don't like it, but I do think that the story is dumb and the ideas this woman had circling around her head were fanfic-quality at best.

So I think you're both being a little petty here.

OP: Stop randomly ripping into a book just because you don't like it
Blackadder: Lighten up