I think Lulzec are funny.
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Lulzsec are good for the internet, just bear with me. Lulzsec are showing everyone how easy it is to hack willy nilly and not get caught, and people will learn from this. Imagine if Lulzsec hadn't come along, and these security flaws went un-noticed...
Eventually, someone else would have done the same as Lulzsec, but here is the scary part: They might not have had intentions as innocent as "for the lulz". Lulzsec might be bad, but they're the laid back, not really into it kind of bad. Imagine someone really bad in their place, who, instead of simply taking down a few sites for fun, injects servers with viruses and completely screws over companies.
The worst that will come out of Lulzsec's rampage will be red faces all round. Some websites might need to be rebuilt, some accounts closed or recovered, but nothing permanent. I'm sure they could do a lot, lot worse. All I'll say is, I don't think we'll see Lulsec stealing bank accounts, credit cards, medical histories, or top secret documents.
Wars are terrible things that claim many lives, but they're also good for progress and economy, and the human race could do with pruning anyway. Lulzsec's internet war may bring about great destruction, but it will also bring great change. For now, I sit back and watch them in interest.
Eventually, someone else would have done the same as Lulzsec, but here is the scary part: They might not have had intentions as innocent as "for the lulz". Lulzsec might be bad, but they're the laid back, not really into it kind of bad. Imagine someone really bad in their place, who, instead of simply taking down a few sites for fun, injects servers with viruses and completely screws over companies.
The worst that will come out of Lulzsec's rampage will be red faces all round. Some websites might need to be rebuilt, some accounts closed or recovered, but nothing permanent. I'm sure they could do a lot, lot worse. All I'll say is, I don't think we'll see Lulsec stealing bank accounts, credit cards, medical histories, or top secret documents.
Wars are terrible things that claim many lives, but they're also good for progress and economy, and the human race could do with pruning anyway. Lulzsec's internet war may bring about great destruction, but it will also bring great change. For now, I sit back and watch them in interest.
I've found more amusing things scraped off the sole of my size twelve loafers really than this bunch of inbred idiots.
They're thieves, nuisances and socially deprived child minded idiots. The law applies to all of us and information theft is no different than any other form of theft. The internet becomes a breeding ground for people who assume anonymity means immunity to prosecution.
And no, testing a security system for any company/government body isn't really going to remove all the warranted stigma attached to them.
This mentality of "it's so funny until it happens to me" is a little too rampant in the OP, because the sad truth is that some people will find something amusing in the most deprived things until it happens to themselves and then they look forward to a three course meal of words to be eaten in due...course
They're thieves, nuisances and socially deprived child minded idiots. The law applies to all of us and information theft is no different than any other form of theft. The internet becomes a breeding ground for people who assume anonymity means immunity to prosecution.
And no, testing a security system for any company/government body isn't really going to remove all the warranted stigma attached to them.
This mentality of "it's so funny until it happens to me" is a little too rampant in the OP, because the sad truth is that some people will find something amusing in the most deprived things until it happens to themselves and then they look forward to a three course meal of words to be eaten in due...course
Well, your post has portrayed you as a gullible idiot, and that makes me laugh, and I guess that's indirectly because of them. I am therefore inclined to agree.
(And I can't believe I'm saying this, but at least Anonymous have something approaching redeeming qualities on occasion. Especially in comparison to LulzSec.)
(And I can't believe I'm saying this, but at least Anonymous have something approaching redeeming qualities on occasion. Especially in comparison to LulzSec.)
What did Mel Brooks say? "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die." On that trend, I suppose you could find lulzsec humorous... But Brooks was making a point.
I feel a tiny amount of admiration for Anonymous in part because I'm reasonably sure that I will never, ever be a victim of their actions. Lulzsec fires a shotgun into a crowd and then applauds itself for its marksmanship. The one good thing I can say about them is that they're so irresponsibly scattershot that it's all but inevitable they'll be getting a knock on their doors in the near future.
I feel a tiny amount of admiration for Anonymous in part because I'm reasonably sure that I will never, ever be a victim of their actions. Lulzsec fires a shotgun into a crowd and then applauds itself for its marksmanship. The one good thing I can say about them is that they're so irresponsibly scattershot that it's all but inevitable they'll be getting a knock on their doors in the near future.
so you think It's funny that they release thousands of peoples facebook information so people steal it and ruin relation ships on the spot. yeah fuck you.
Lulzsec has already released tens of thousands of peoples personal login info and encouraged people to use it. That has (according to twitter) led to more than a few paypal thefts. Granted they didn't steal the money themselves, but to me it is the equivalent of stealing the keys to the bank vault and handing them out to strangers with a little note telling them where the keys fit. Sure, they didn't actually steal the money, but money would never had been stolen were it not for them.Daniel Allsopp said:
Edit: although your quite right i'm sure there will be change...
I think that just about covers it. I probably wouldn't mind them so much if they weren't stealing and releasing people's personal information.Harry Mason said:
Who cares? At least they TELL everyone what they do. Imagine if they just found out all this stuff and then started using it to rip your credit card off.
Don't ever say that Luzlsec is better then Anonymous, or that they are the same thing. They are not. Anonymous does good things now and then, Luzlsec is just a bunch of punks who just want to fuck up everything. To make reference to a great American hero, Anonymous are dicks and Luzlsec are assholes.
Yup, it's hilarious for them to release people's private information to the public and potentially ruin their lives.
These are words of great wisdom here.Callate said:
As a general rule, Anonymous would leave you alone unless you'd wronged them directly or publicly acted in a way that directly opposes their 'beliefs' (and have a very internet based sense of humour about it), Lulzsec on the other hand have had a widespread casulty list filled with people who probably did nothing to wrong anyone (causing potential havoc in the lives of thousands of innocent people isn't funny, that's just cruelty).
Lulzsec will eventually face reprisal for their actions (they've been far too overt and widespread about their actions to avoid the attentions of people who could possibly pose a threat to them and their lack of responsability or self-control means that they're definately worsening the already bad public image of the hacker community) but the real question is when and how many more people will suffer needlessly for it?
If I was one of them I'd quit now while I'd still have a chance to walk away and pretend it all didn't happen.
They got email and password combos from a few sites, and gave them out. Now, in a perfect world, that would mean you could access their account on that site only, but due to people reusing login details, much more could be accessed.intheweeds said:
So really, Lulzsec stole keys to Bank Vault A, but due to shoddy security those same keys opened Bank Vault B. Nobody knew that these keys could access Vault B, but some dick-heads had to go check, just in case.
Yeah, I kinda see how they're funny too, but when they're releasing tons of people's personal log-in info on the web it's very hard for me to admit that. Oh, and as you probably guessed by now, saying that here is like saying that you think George Bush did the right thing about invading Afghanistan to find Bin Laden. Yes, you can argue about it, but the negative results far outweigh the positive.
I like Anon; I hate LulzSec. I don't hate them for downing the Escapist, but because they have no reason other than "for the lulz".
I know about the point that "anyone is Anon", but not really. /prepsflameshield True, anyone can claim to be Anon, but the focus of Anon usually has a purpose to their attacks like an infringement of rights or whatever and that kind of stuff I can (usually) get behind. Hacking "for teh lulz" I cannot.
I know about the point that "anyone is Anon", but not really. /prepsflameshield True, anyone can claim to be Anon, but the focus of Anon usually has a purpose to their attacks like an infringement of rights or whatever and that kind of stuff I can (usually) get behind. Hacking "for teh lulz" I cannot.