Lulzsec has already released tens of thousands of peoples personal login info and encouraged people to use it. That has (according to twitter) led to more than a few paypal thefts. Granted they didn't steal the money themselves, but to me it is the equivalent of stealing the keys to the bank vault and handing them out to strangers with a little note telling them where the keys fit. Sure, they didn't actually steal the money, but money would never had been stolen were it not for them.Daniel Allsopp said:Lulzsec are good for the internet, just bear with me. Lulzsec are showing everyone how easy it is to hack willy nilly and not get caught, and people will learn from this. Imagine if Lulzsec hadn't come along, and these security flaws went un-noticed...
Eventually, someone else would have done the same as Lulzsec, but here is the scary part: They might not have had intentions as innocent as "for the lulz". Lulzsec might be bad, but they're the laid back, not really into it kind of bad. Imagine someone really bad in their place, who, instead of simply taking down a few sites for fun, injects servers with viruses and completely screws over companies.
The worst that will come out of Lulzsec's rampage will be red faces all round. Some websites might need to be rebuilt, some accounts closed or recovered, but nothing permanent. I'm sure they could do a lot, lot worse. All I'll say is, I don't think we'll see Lulsec stealing bank accounts, credit cards, medical histories, or top secret documents.
Wars are terrible things that claim many lives, but they're also good for progress and economy, and the human race could do with pruning anyway. Lulzsec's internet war may bring about great destruction, but it will also bring great change. For now, I sit back and watch them in interest.
I think that just about covers it. I probably wouldn't mind them so much if they weren't stealing and releasing people's personal information.Harry Mason said:I disagree completely.
"Funny" hacking is hacking a website and changing its homepage to a picture of a Lolwrus to mock the weak security, then leaving a note on suggested improvements.
"Asshole" hacking is releasing thousands of people's information, targeting specific companies, and sparing others because "you like them."
Fuck Lulzsec.
These are words of great wisdom here.Callate said:What did Mel Brooks say? "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die." On that trend, I suppose you could find lulzsec humorous... But Brooks was making a point.
I feel a tiny amount of admiration for Anonymous in part because I'm reasonably sure that I will never, ever be a victim of their actions. Lulzsec fires a shotgun into a crowd and then applauds itself for its marksmanship. The one good thing I can say about them is that they're so irresponsibly scattershot that it's all but inevitable they'll be getting a knock on their doors in the near future.
Whether one agrees with their methods or not, Anonymous have a good cause. That's worth something, at least.Scarecrow 8 said:Don't ever say that Luzlsec is better then Anonymous, or that they are the same thing. They are not. Anonymous does good things now and then, Luzlsec is just a bunch of punks who just want to fuck up everything. To make reference to a great American hero, Anonymous are dicks and Luzlsec are assholes.
They got email and password combos from a few sites, and gave them out. Now, in a perfect world, that would mean you could access their account on that site only, but due to people reusing login details, much more could be accessed.intheweeds said:Lulzsec has already released tens of thousands of peoples personal login info and encouraged people to use it. That has (according to twitter) led to more than a few paypal thefts. Granted they didn't steal the money themselves, but to me it is the equivalent of stealing the keys to the bank vault and handing them out to strangers with a little note telling them where the keys fit. Sure, they didn't actually steal the money, but money would never had been stolen were it not for them.
Edit: although your quite right i'm sure there will be change...
Do you really think the people are going to take the word of a hacker that hacked then? Also, do you know how much it costs to do damage assesment?Funkiest Monkey said:I think, that they are causing no real harm to any of us, and are actually quite funny. They do good deeds too: Such as hacking into the NHS (National Health Service), but then just emailing them to make them aware of the security vulnerabilities they found. Or when they entered a hacking contest, won it, and turned down the $10,000 prize.
They're not complete bastards. I mean, they're not 'Anonymous' for fucks sake.
EDIT: Oh, and it's just kinda funny to see what shit they do.
They took down the Escapist? How did I miss that?Jack and Calumon said:They took down The Escapist for almost a whole day for shits and giggles. It was the tuesday just gone too and I couldn't access a message I had that TAUNTED ME SO MUCH!Funkiest Monkey said:that they are causing no real harm to any of us,
OT: I don't find them that funny. The NHS thing, and some other good things, fine, but when they take down websites and take away services from players, like how they keep taking down EVE Online, a game I don't even play, I physically can't find it funny.
Calumon: I didn't know bullying was fun now... : (
But if they did that then it could be tracked to them and they could be identified as a member.YawningAngel said:Who cares? At least they TELL everyone what they do. Imagine if they just found out all this stuff and then started using it to rip your credit card off.