flarty said:
Jayzus talk about PMT, so he made a poor joke, breathe deeply and calm down and move on.
I think you're confusing anger with jaded apathy.
It's like Republicans still making jokes about Clinton's penis. It's just so overdone and out of context these days.
No need to be so patronising now is there? Yes its obvious he means the desktop (tower). Unless you really did get confused, and since you believe components have stagnated due to the reason you quoted above, this wouldn't be too hard to believe. Its plainly obvious this generation has been dominated by consoles so video game development has been held back by the hardware limitations of the consoles. Don't believe me? go and look at the unreal Samaritan tech demo. The demo was originally running on a tri sli set up of 580's. Now it can be run on a single card, just one generation of cards later.
Components have started evolving horizontally than laterally. Processor speed at about 4Ghz has been normal for a while - but my first PC had a 133Mhz processor, and I remember when the 1Ghz came out probably 7 years later. That's an 8-fold increase in raw power, and you're not reading about 32Ghz processors these days, are you? No, because we've reached atomic-level barriers, and the way around those barriers is to simply add more processors, more RAM, or more components (Quad-SLI!). New nVidia cards have more RAM and loads of processors, but the frequencies aren't increasing.
Whether the console domination of the market is a correlation or causation with the barriers hit by desktops I won't say, but an important thing to remember (which my sarcasm was pointing out) is that Smartphones and Tablets are totally real personal computers. They're smaller, lighter, mobile, and all that - and a lot of enthusiasts sort of pretend they aren't because they're used to tower setups.
Oh dear still not got over him using "$" instead of an "s"?
I'm just stooping to his level. I half-expected him to start whining about how XP is the best OS ever, or how Netscape is still a good browser. I'll admit lowering myself to his level isn't the best debate tactic, but then again this isn't really a debate.
I dont know if you are aware of this, but metro has been employed on window 7 phones for a while, and while you might call it their first earnest foray, are you aware that there first earnest foray was back in 2002. Long before apple or google.
I have a Nokia Lumia 710, so I'm well aware. And while Windows Mobile (which is a separate OS from Windows Phone) has been around for a while, touch screen phones have not been pervasive. Windows 8 is the first Windows OS tailored towards touch screen devices, like tablets and phones - their first earnest foray to do so.
The UI is not the main reason windows 8 was made, its would of been much easier to just re-skin windows mobile 7 like they had done than release a whole new OS, and cheaper. They want to create an ECO system to rival apples. While that's great there is no real need to push the metro UI on to the desktop (even if it is optional). There is a reason why the windows desktop hasn't changed in so long, and that's because its works perfectly for the input method provided. Though you are correct machines a lot more capable now, but if splashing a new UI on to your desktop is all you can think to do with that extra processing power, then you seem to be lacking any imagination.
I agree, but you made the same mistake the OP made. They're not pushing the Metro UI on anybody's desktop. They're not forcing you to buy it, and even if you get it with a brand new desktop you can just install an older version of Windows.
That's what I don't get. It's an OS designed for touch screen interfaces, and MS saying "It's for desktops too!" is just marketing bull (sort of like Apple trying to make every version of the iPhone seem different and unique). If you're not going to use the computer via a touch screen, then just skip Win8 and continue using Win7. I know I will. If I upgrade anything to Win8 it will be my Asus tablet, and I'll probably leave my tower running Win7 unless I'm really impressed.
The power behind a complaint rises or falls in direct proportion to how easily you can avoid the trap. If MS decided to make Windows 7 use Metro UI through a Windows Update, then there'd be a lot more veracity to the OP. They're not, though. Don't like Metro UI? Don't buy Windows 8. Bam, complaint nullified!
There is no need to be so obnoxious, especially when you seem to be lacking any real clarity on the subject. In fact i believe you would be better off with a console and a tablet computer, judging from your post.
My apologies. I'll follow the example you've set of asking the other person to act better before immediately insulting them twice in a row.